Post Reply Please increase the limit of the new Show Discussion Threads rule
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Posted 10/2/16 , edited 10/2/16
For those who don't know, I refer to this:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-965409/psa-update-regarding-fall-2016-show-discussion-threads

An added rule applies now here:

Each user may start only one new season show discussion thread per day.


Apparently, the main idea of the new rule is to lessen the amount of locked threads for the ongoing season. However, I find this very restrictive. There are days when multiple shows (where a user is interested in multiple titles) airs.

I'll be honest. This is the only anime community on the Internet that I've come across with this type of rule. Literally, this is restricting our freedom to make topics.

I only ask if this can be increased to perhaps 2-3 per day for each user. 2 for the minimum but 3 for busy days with more than 3+ shows. I'm asking this for Fall if possible. It's still not too late as the season had just started. If not, consider it for next year/future seasons.

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Posted 10/2/16 , edited 10/2/16

stark700 wrote:
I only ask if this can be increased to perhaps 2-3 per day for each user. 2 for the minimum but 3 for busy days with more than 3+ shows. I'm asking this for Fall if possible. It's still not too late as the season had just started. If not, consider it for next year/future seasons.


When we settled on 1 per day we were looking at past seasons, and it does turn out that overall there are more shows this Fall, so 2 probably wouldn't have been a bad option given how many shows there are.

Still, we feel there is plenty of opportunity for starting threads about shows that people really want to talk about, and we want to give this a real try -- we've only just finished two of the main days of new shows, so it's a little early to say it's not working.

Anyone who notices a thread is missing for something they particularly care about and want to discuss, but who has already created their one thread for the day, may reach out to me and I'll be happy to start the thread if I feel enough time has passed to give others a chance.

I'm also making a point to watch the first episode of every show on CR the same day it's simulcast, so if I watch an episode and I like it, but no one has started a thread for it, I'll be sure to do so once I've seen it.
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stark700 wrote:
I only ask if this can be increased to perhaps 2-3 per day for each user. 2 for the minimum but 3 for busy days with more than 3+ shows. I'm asking this for Fall if possible. It's still not too late as the season had just started. If not, consider it for next year/future seasons.


When we settled on 1 per day we were looking at past seasons, and it does turn out that overall there are more shows this Fall, so 2 probably wouldn't have been a bad option given how many shows there are.

Still, we feel there is plenty of opportunity for starting threads about shows that people really want to talk about, and we want to give this a real try -- we've only just finished two of the main days of new shows, so it's a little early to say it's not working.

Anyone who notices a thread is missing for something they particularly care about and want to discuss, but who has already created their one thread for the day, may reach out to me and I'll be happy to start the thread if I feel enough time has passed to give others a chance


So is this idea being considered at all? I've already talked to regulars and others here on CR about it, no one likes it. You need to respect the community's feedback as well.

In regarding about people who "really want to talk about", there are certain users (Kurodenki in particular) who just wants to start a topic because they want to have their name on the page rather than contributing themselves. I find that part unfair for others who actively participates more for particular shows.
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So is this idea being considered at all? I've already talked to regulars and others here on CR about it, no one likes it. You need to respect the community's feedback as well.

In regarding about people who "really want to talk about", there are certain users (Kurodenki in particular) who just wants to start a topic because they want to have their name on the page rather than contributing themselves. I find that part unfair for others who actively participates more for particular shows.


I won't be wrangling further with you about this, but I did want to address these two points. We are seeing how things go for the Fall season and so far we see nothing so detrimental that it seems necessary to cut the trial short or make changes. We will evaluate things later in the season after the first episodes are out. Your accusation about Kurodenki at this time seems kind of ridiculous, considering he hasn't even started any of the Fall season threads so far.
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Posted 10/3/16 , edited 10/3/16
We'll see how it plays out but please do consider the idea.

Regarding him, I'm referring in general for the past...2 years here. Not just this Fall season.
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lorreen wrote:


stark700 wrote:
So is this idea being considered at all? I've already talked to regulars and others here on CR about it, no one likes it. You need to respect the community's feedback as well.

In regarding about people who "really want to talk about", there are certain users (Kurodenki in particular) who just wants to start a topic because they want to have their name on the page rather than contributing themselves. I find that part unfair for others who actively participates more for particular shows.


I won't be wrangling further with you about this, but I did want to address these two points. We are seeing how things go for the Fall season and so far we see nothing so detrimental that it seems necessary to cut the trial short or make changes. We will evaluate things later in the season after the first episodes are out. Your accusation about Kurodenki at this time seems kind of ridiculous, considering he hasn't even started any of the Fall season threads so far.


I agree with Stark to increase it 2 per day. On busy days like Saturday we had to wait for someone to make a thread just to discuss it.
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Posted 10/4/16 , edited 10/4/16
I would also like to hear the other mods' opinions and input on this if possible.

So far, the only feedback we've ever gotten is from lorreen. By 'we', I assume this topic was discussed between them so I ask if we can hear the opinions from the other mods. It can even be in pm.

Again, I believe at least 2+ should be allowed. 1 is too restrictive and unwelcoming. Fall has less shows carried from the Summer (it has less 2 cour shows). I get that it's an "experimental idea" so far but from people I've talked to already, no one likes it and they are the ones that contribute positively in this community.
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EDIT - Well, I'm a mod again, but other than that, the rest of my post remains true

So, I'm not a mod right now. I talk with some of the mods frequently being friends and all, but I requested that my powers be disabled a bit ago, so I'm not exactly what you're after in a responder right now. Just offering a few thoughts as a fellow user.

I think the new rules are working out quite well. You are still by far the most frequent creator of threads, it's not like you're losing much with the new style. But now new names are also appearing as well, which I think is great, and more welcoming to more users. Folks who want to discuss a show are free to create a thread - it's not like there's a lack of users in the anime forum. Now they get to join in more in their own styles, which doesn't seem like a bad thing.

Going with a "2+" rule is basically no rule at all. I know some folks are very specific about rule adherence, and wish to be specific even when a general guideline is attempted. Going with 1 is clear and easy to follow. So far, it doesn't seem like it's hurting discussion once it starts, and it doesn't have to start the instant the show airs - unless someone is around to start the thread and wants to discuss it. Reserving thread creation for threads you want to be involved in seems like something you were after as well, based on an above post.

If there is a glut of anime all coming out at once, I'm sure it'd be cool to relax things as needed. But so far, so good seems to be the status report in my view.
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Posted 21 days ago , edited 21 days ago

stark700 wrote:

I would also like to hear the other mods' opinions and input on this if possible.

So far, the only feedback we've ever gotten is from lorreen. By 'we', I assume this topic was discussed between them so I ask if we can hear the opinions from the other mods. It can even be in pm.

Again, I believe at least 2+ should be allowed. 1 is too restrictive and unwelcoming. Fall has less shows carried from the Summer (it has less 2 cour shows). I get that it's an "experimental idea" so far but from people I've talked to already, no one likes it and they are the ones that contribute positively in this community.


For a while I thought we shouldn't restrict the community in any way when it came to this, but this petty race to be the one who starts the thread is just silly, and all of the whinging about who gets to do it first is the reason we've had to come up with this ruleset in the first place.

I think we should just have the staff make official discussions when a new anime launches. If we have official discussions then people can do just that; discuss their new favourite show. There'll be no question about quality of the thread, and no question about who makes it.
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Posted 21 days ago , edited 21 days ago

Zeronite wrote:

For a while I thought we shouldn't restrict the community in any way when it came to this, but this petty race to be the one who starts the thread is just silly, and all of the whinging about who gets to do it first is the reason we've had to come up with this ruleset in the first place.

I think we should just have the staff make official discussions when a new anime launches. If we have official discussions then people can do just that; discuss their new favourite show. There'll be no question about quality of the thread, and no question about who makes it.


I wouldn't actually mind this idea tbh but that would kinda of lessen the impact to make anticipation topics. What has worked for the past few years with anticipation topics converted to discussion (before the changes) never really had problems like this in the first place.

The best solution imo at the moment is to make a separate section for current ongoing series on the Discussion sub-boards. I can't see the programming being difficult to implement that. And if done, it really would make it so that it doesn't matter who starts a topic with what you mentioned.

Plus, it would also show who would actually care to discuss a show in the first place. (as one of the reason some OPs make topics is solely for the reason for their name to show up on the front page rather than to actually talk about the show)

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Regarding your idea, I personally think it should be one of the CR administrators to make the topics or under an official separate account rather than a forum mod.
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stark700 wrote:


Zeronite wrote:

For a while I thought we shouldn't restrict the community in any way when it came to this, but this petty race to be the one who starts the thread is just silly, and all of the whinging about who gets to do it first is the reason we've had to come up with this ruleset in the first place.

I think we should just have the staff make official discussions when a new anime launches. If we have official discussions then people can do just that; discuss their new favourite show. There'll be no question about quality of the thread, and no question about who makes it.


I wouldn't actually mind this idea tbh but that would kinda of lessen the impact to make anticipation topics. What has worked for the past few years with anticipation topics converted to discussion (before the changes) never really had problems like this in the first place.

The best solution imo at the moment is to make a separate section for current ongoing series on the Discussion sub-boards. I can't see the programming being difficult to implement that. And if done, it really would make it so that it doesn't matter who starts a topic with what you mentioned.

Plus, it would also show who would actually care to discuss a show in the first place. (as one of the reason some OPs make topics is solely for the reason for their name to show up on the front page rather than to actually talk about the show)

Edit:
Regarding your idea, I personally think it should be one of the CR administrators to make the topics or under an official separate account rather than a forum mod.


Really makes no difference to us who makes it, so long is it stops threads being made for the wrong reasons. It would probably be a group of specifically selected staff. Shouldn't really matter if it's an admin or a mod, they'd likely be made with a template.
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Zeronite wrote:


stark700 wrote:


Zeronite wrote:

For a while I thought we shouldn't restrict the community in any way when it came to this, but this petty race to be the one who starts the thread is just silly, and all of the whinging about who gets to do it first is the reason we've had to come up with this ruleset in the first place.

I think we should just have the staff make official discussions when a new anime launches. If we have official discussions then people can do just that; discuss their new favourite show. There'll be no question about quality of the thread, and no question about who makes it.


I wouldn't actually mind this idea tbh but that would kinda of lessen the impact to make anticipation topics. What has worked for the past few years with anticipation topics converted to discussion (before the changes) never really had problems like this in the first place.

The best solution imo at the moment is to make a separate section for current ongoing series on the Discussion sub-boards. I can't see the programming being difficult to implement that. And if done, it really would make it so that it doesn't matter who starts a topic with what you mentioned.

Plus, it would also show who would actually care to discuss a show in the first place. (as one of the reason some OPs make topics is solely for the reason for their name to show up on the front page rather than to actually talk about the show)

Edit:
Regarding your idea, I personally think it should be one of the CR administrators to make the topics or under an official separate account rather than a forum mod.


Really makes no difference to us who makes it, so long is it stops threads being made for the wrong reasons. It would probably be a group of specifically selected staff. Shouldn't really matter if it's an admin or a mod, they'd likely be made with a template.


You will have a lot of unhappy people if you the originalitly out of the fan starting the thread .

One a day is fine

The bigger problem ( I addresed this before ) a lot of the show discussions have hardly any posts Why

1 Too much anime / it has taken me a month and a 1/2 just to get on the same day !

2 I picked latecomers or animes that dont getb picked up !

3 I gave up this season trying I like it's jusy si cuthroat !

4 A bad thing going on on shows like RWBY is the overposting of the same topic so I just stay away.

Except for a few a lot of the discusions have 2- maybe 5 posts that is sad from when I frst joine CR
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