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Post Reply 2016 Election: Vice Presidential Debate: Mike Pence v. Tim Kaine
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runec wrote:


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I wound up missing out on most of the debate as white bread.


Fixed that for you.

You didn't have to watch the debate you know. You could have just taken two loaves of white bread, written "Emails" on one and "Putin" on the other than slowly smooshed them together for an hour.






That almost sounds like the plot for a Kaine x Pence yaoi manga.
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I think Pence did a better job at helping Trump than Kaine did at helping Hillary, but in the end, I don't think anybody really cares. Everything these guys said will be forgotten by tomorrow, and I doubt the polls will show anything one way or the other.
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I think Pence did a better job at helping Trump than Kaine did at helping Hillary, but in the end, I don't think anybody really cares. Everything these guys said will be forgotten by tomorrow, and I doubt the polls will show anything one way or the other.


VP debates were never really interesting before Lloyd Bentsen vs. Dan Quayle (oh, yeah, and James Stockman too, I guess)--
The Republicans had lost their compass for picking VP's after Reagan--With the party reduced to just hoping that image and photo-opportunities would singlehandedly carry on Reagan's legacy for them too, they forgot, or didn't know, what a VP was supposed to do in the Senate, and just picked "Someone to look good next to the presidential candidate so they'll love him some more!"

And then, somebody had to pick Dan Quayle, when nobody else would take the job...We knew it was a train wreck, and tuned in to watch the metal grind. It was the same with watching Joe Biden try to hold a rational conversation with Sarah Palin.
It's sort of the opposite today, with the Republican VP being the rational one that can make complete sentences and the presidential candidate being the straightjacket lunatic we all tune in to watch gibber, drool and cartwheel.
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sundin13 wrote:
I think Pence did a better job at helping Trump than Kaine did at helping Hillary, but in the end, I don't think anybody really cares. Everything these guys said will be forgotten by tomorrow, and I doubt the polls will show anything one way or the other.


Pretty much. The all time record holder for VP debates was Biden vs Palin at 70m and neither of these two have that sort of charisma or lunacy to draw viewers. It could pull in a bit from the aftermath of Trump/Clinton I guess but I can't see it ranking high. Even if it did rank high initially I can't see everyone watching the entire thing. >.>



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That almost sounds like the plot for a Kaine x Pence yaoi manga.


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I feel like my choices are between a bottle of Hellman's Mayonaise and Best Foods Mayonaise. Same white mayo just in a different package.

That being said, I found it amusing that Hillary was insulting to Trump for interrupting her, yet her VP selection kept interrupting Pence. It also was nice to have a moderator that didn't feel as biased as the last one.
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That being said, I found it amusing that Hillary was insulting to Trump for interrupting her, yet her VP selection kept interrupting Pence. It also was nice to have a moderator that didn't feel as biased as the last one.


Not the greatest look, yeah. There were more interruptions total in this debate than the presidential one. Which is rather impressive. Though on the flip side the interruptions were more speaking out of turn or over each other than just barking "wrong" into a microphone over and over. This moderator at least was better than Holt at trying to keep a rein on the proceedings. Holt just sort of stared haplessly like he was part of the audience.

Overall I'd say this debate was a wash for all involved. No minds were changed and nothing new was brought to the table. Both candidates were outside their comfort zones ( Kaine having to be an attack dog and Pence having to defend statements/positions of Trump that he doesn't agree with ). The moderator really needs to be given the ability to cut someone's mic. But then of course no candidates would agree to show up.

So far we've learned NBC sucks at this and CBS at least tries to treat it seriously. The next debate has Anderson Cooper and Martha Raddatz as moderators. It could get ugly as it'll be an even 2 v 2 between moderators and candidates and Cooper has a low tolerence for BS.

The final debate will be Chris "Doormat" Wallace though. So I expect that one to just be 90 minutes of shouting and if we're really lucky maybe an actual, physical altercation. ;p



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Pence needs to be a bodybuilder. He has the shoulders for it, and it would really set him in the bromance of the presidential race.

Just really glad this is the only time I think I will ever see these two, since there are no more VP debacles. Just PoPOTUS bikini mud wrestling matches.
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