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That's really close-minded tbh. It's a current civil rights issue. Of course it's going to get brought up a lot.



Is the next 'civil rights' issue going to be the right for psychos to torture and murder small animals because that's what their brains tell them to do?
1000 years after a trans person dies, scientists will be able to glance at the shape of his skull and tell what gender they were born as, regardless of made up terms for modern bullcrap.
Even fully 'transitioning' just leaves these men with a wound they have to dilate so it doesn't heal up. Encouraging it is beyond reproach, its like whispering into a schizo's ear that all the voices are real and to do what they say.
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How am I wrong? That civil rights issues get talked about a lot? The black rights movement people in the 60s didn't exactly reach their goal by staying in and only bringing the issue up every once and a while. If you're frustrated with how frequently an issue is brought up, then the best way to fix that would be to help fix the problem. Being apathetic about it won't change anything.


I said you aren't wrong. Believe it or not someone on the internet doesn't immediately want to fight you.


Yeah I edited it to apologise for that. Not quickly enough tho apparently. Thats my bad, I misread it.
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octorockandroll wrote:



That's really close-minded tbh. It's a current civil rights issue. Of course it's going to get brought up a lot.



Is the next 'civil rights' issue going to be the right for psychos to torture and murder small animals because that's what their brains tell them to do?
1000 years after a trans person dies, scientists will be able to glance at the shape of his skull and tell what gender they were born as, regardless of made up terms for modern bullcrap.
Even fully 'transitioning' just leaves these men with a wound they have to dilate so it doesn't heal up. Encouraging it is beyond reproach, its like whispering into a schizo's ear that all the voices are real and to do what they say.


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Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, so your technically correct. Sex transition tends to be used as a treatment for it, though, due to how difficult it can be to manage gender dysphoria through other means. That said; a transitioned or mid-transitioning person expecting everyone to turn a blind eye to the fact that they were once "something else" is unreasonable. It bothers me that some trans seem so ashamed of themselves that they try their hardest to fight any reminder of "being different."
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b8 to a mental illness fetishist maybe

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Sex transition tends to be used as a treatment for it, though, due to how difficult it can be to manage gender dysphoria through other means.


http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00048679609065010
Sounds much easier than injecting yourself with hormones and mangling your genitals only to eventually kill yourself because it was an irreversible mistake.

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Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder, so your technically correct.


No. No it isn't. It was changed from being called "Gender Identity Disorder" to "Gender Dysphoria" specifically because it isn't a disorder.


A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder.
-American Psychology Association


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octorockandroll wrote:

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b8 to a mental illness fetishist maybe




A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder.
-American Psychology Association
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http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00048679609065010
Sounds much easier than injecting yourself with hormones and mangling your genitals only to eventually kill yourself because it was an irreversible mistake.



Until you look up the side effects of Pimozide.
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Amyas_Leigh wrote:


aeb0717 wrote:
Sex transition tends to be used as a treatment for it, though, due to how difficult it can be to manage gender dysphoria through other means.


http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/00048679609065010
Sounds much easier than injecting yourself with hormones and mangling your genitals only to eventually kill yourself because it was an irreversible mistake.



It's only a mistake if it doesn't help and to many it does help.

Alot of trans people only ever find help in transitioning.

Why do you care that they get to be happy?
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I lump the accompanying depression, stress, and anxiety together as part of "gender dysphoria." Lazy, yes, but you know what I mean.
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octorockandroll wrote:





I lump the accompanying depression, stress, and anxiety together as part of "gender dysphoria." Lazy, yes, but you know what I mean.


But that isn't really an accompanying thing, necessarily. That stuff stems from how the individuals are treated. And because they are often not treated that well depending on where they are and who is around them, they develop these issues. If gender dysphoria was the source of the issues you listed, I would agree with you, but in reality it originates from outside influences (the apa stuff I was quoting goes on to mention that as well)
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It's only a mistake if it doesn't help and to many it does help.

Alot of trans people only ever find help in transitioning.

Why do you care that they get to be happy?


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

It doesn't make them happy though.
It makes them depressed and suicidal because the surgery is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
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But that isn't really an accompanying thing, necessarily. That stuff stems from how the individuals are treated. And because they are often not treated that well depending on where they are and who is around them, they develop these issues. If gender dysphoria was the source of the issues you listed, I would agree with you, but in reality it originates from outside influences (the apa stuff I was quoting goes on to mention that as well)


Oh, okay. Thanks for the info.
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aeb0717 wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:



But that isn't really an accompanying thing, necessarily. That stuff stems from how the individuals are treated. And because they are often not treated that well depending on where they are and who is around them, they develop these issues. If gender dysphoria was the source of the issues you listed, I would agree with you, but in reality it originates from outside influences (the apa stuff I was quoting goes on to mention that as well)


Oh, okay. Thanks for the info.


no problem.
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