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Clinical depression can be very hard. The average person experiences depression at times, but people who have a clinical case of depression have a condition they suffer and struggle with and people who have it moderately bad or severely bad experience things that are a form of a disability.


I never said it isn't hard? I'm practically depressed almost every single day, but it's not because of some petty crap, nor does it make me disabled per se. I actually have a legitimate disability and refuse to be lumped in w/ someone who's depressed for crying out loud. Moderately bad or severely bad, depression is a condition that is treatable more often than not. Last time I checked, being disabled is something that severely limits you in your day to day activities; practically non-treatable? If a depressed individual refuses to go get help, that's his or her problem. They're the ones limiting themselves, NOT the depression. I realize the state/federal & insurance companies basically acknowledge depression as a disability (god knows why), but I never will in a million years. That's my take on it.


i have to agree, I have depression, not as severe anymore though because I FORCED myself through it without medicine after having been on medicine since I was young, when I came off it after highschool I had a relapse...I think its called that? every time I would try and get off it would sky rocket, I would go suicidal, it started with childhood abuse but because of the medicine I couldn't cope with it, without meds, I was tired of it so I forced myself through, which, was extremely hard,


it is not a disability though

what would be considered a disability is my back injury that at times doesn't go away fro 7 days straight and it hurts tremendously

you have to admit though 7/10 people claiming depression, don't truly have it, in the sense that they claim,
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What do trump supporters have in common
They both are racist


cant tell if troll or not
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i have to agree, I have depression, not as severe anymore though because I FORCED myself through it without medicine after having been on medicine since I was young, when I came off it after highschool I had a relapse...I think its called that? every time I would try and get off it would sky rocket, I would go suicidal, it started with childhood abuse but because of the medicine I couldn't cope with it, without meds, I was tired of it so I forced myself through, which, was extremely hard,


You're a trooper


it is not a disability though

what would be considered a disability is my back injury that at times doesn't go away fro 7 days straight and it hurts tremendously

you have to admit though 7/10 people claiming depression, don't truly have it, in the sense that they claim,


Thank you
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Putting aside whether people are abusing the term "depression" or not. Clinical depression is a disability. Sure, everyone may experience depression ( or low mood rather ) from time to time as a natural response to life events. But clinical depression is a different beast entirely. There's a difference between being feeling depressed for a couple weeks because your dog died and being literally incapable of feeling anything at all.

I have no idea what the standards for disability are in the US. In Canada its measured by the impact on your quality of life and your ability to perform the basics necessary to function as a human being. Rather then by a strict checklist of what does and does not qualify.

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Putting aside whether people are abusing the term "depression" or not. Clinical depression is a disability. Sure, everyone may experience depression ( or low mood rather ) from time to time as a natural response to life events. But clinical depression is a different beast entirely. There's a difference between being feeling depressed for a couple weeks because your dog died and being literally incapable of feeling anything at all.

I have no idea what the standards for disability are in the US. In Canada its measured by the impact on your quality of life and your ability to perform the basics necessary to function as a human being. Rather then by a strict checklist of what does and does not qualify.



depression is, unlike other things, something a person can push through If they try hard enough, believe me it sure as hell is hard, but not impossible, and I still have string bouts of it
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Being called "Nazi" where I used to live hurt me psychologically. Words can indeed hurt people.
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is it me or did the past 2-3 generations forget this being taught to us?
I cant help but to think about the forum I made about that letter

and about trumps new video "scandal"

when did people become such pansies and worry about what another says, more than what they actually do?





This meme resonates...

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redokami wrote:

is it me or did the past 2-3 generations forget this being taught to us?
I cant help but to think about the forum I made about that letter

and about trumps new video "scandal"

when did people become such pansies and worry about what another says, more than what they actually do?





This meme resonates...



For that guy, hair pulling is the best answer.
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redokami wrote:
depression is, unlike other things, something a person can push through If they try hard enough, believe me it sure as hell is hard, but not impossible, and I still have string bouts of it


There's a difference between depression and clinical depression. You can't push through it if you try hard enough and in fact telling someone to do so is pretty high on the list of things you should seriously never tell a person who has clinical/major depression. Depression in the clinical sense is not just a bad mood thats all in your head.

There are also a myriad of causes and factors in clinical depression so you should not assume that yours is the standard by any means.



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I've had it. Depression. For many months, I was in a funk that would not go away. I couldn't get myself to do anything. It was affecting my work, my family, my life in a very bad way. I had to go through serious therapy to understand what I was going through, and to change the way I was thinking. It took a lot of months of therapy, before I finally understood how to change my way of thinking.

The problem with depression is that not everyone can see that there is a way out. So, many people remain depressed. I was one of the lucky ones, I guess.

And just to be clear, from time to time, I go back into depression, but now I know how to get back out of it. It's not something that goes away once it's cured. It's never cured. You just have to stay on top of it, and keep an eye out for signs of it, and do something about it, if it comes back.
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I've had it. Depression. For many months, I was in a funk that would not go away. I couldn't get myself to do anything. It was affecting my work, my family, my life in a very bad way. I had to go through serious therapy to understand what I was going through, and to change the way I was thinking. It took a lot of months of therapy, before I finally understood how to change my way of thinking.

The problem with depression is that not everyone can see that there is a way out. So, many people remain depressed. I was one of the lucky ones, I guess.

And just to be clear, from time to time, I go back into depression, but now I know how to get back out of it. It's not something that goes away once it's cured. It's never cured. You just have to stay on top of it, and keep an eye out for signs of it, and do something about it, if it comes back.


exactly, but you can pull yourself out of it
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To respond to depression and disability...not everything that is a disability has to be something like someone in a wheelchair or someone on crutches. Mental health is an integral, major component of our overall health and well being and disabilities can take on the form of mental illnesses.

I mean, for RedOkami saying her back problem is a disability but her depression never was, but clearly it was something that was very trying for her when she was at times suicidal and said some experiences with it were "extremely hard".

Depression is something that negatively effects some people day to day. Maybe a lot of them deal with it fine, but many also do not. It is treatable, as all mental health issues are treatable, but this doesn't mean everybody with mental health issues get some pills, do some therapy, and everything is fine and good. Lots of people don't have good success with treatment, even with meds and good doctors. For both depression and other psychiatric conditions.
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To respond to depression and disability...not everything that is a disability has to be something like someone in a wheelchair or someone on crutches. Mental health is an integral, major component of our overall health and well being and disabilities can take on the form of mental illnesses.

I mean, for RedOkami saying her back problem is a disability but her depression never was, but clearly it was something that was very trying for her when she was at times suicidal and said some experiences with it were "extremely hard".

Depression is something that negatively effects some people day to day. Maybe a lot of them deal with it fine, but many also do not. It is treatable, as all mental health issues are treatable, but this doesn't mean everybody with mental health issues get some pills, do some therapy, and everything is fine and good. Lots of people don't have good success with treatment, even with meds and good doctors. For both depression and other psychiatric conditions.


im not saying it doesn't affect people day to day, like I said ive had it since I was 6 years old, ive been suicidal since I was 6 years old
a 6 year old doesn't just get like that
unfortunately I did not get good therapy, what happened to me was blamed ON me, something which was a repeated occurrence until I was 19, that was not my fault
the cliché "did she put herself out there"


for depression though it is a mindset, when it comes to whether or not you want to keep letting it happen, or say fuck you, tomorrow is a different day, I will sleep today
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