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does that mean we entered the "freezing war"?
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The Clinton News Network certainly can be forgiven for failing to report anything that makes their god look bad. It's only natural.
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does that mean we entered the "freezing war"?


I would like to call it the avalanche war, quick and effective
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The fact routers busted NBC for coordinating with the Clinton campaign and releasing an old serripitously recorded audio track a day after wikileaks dumped emails that might have kept Sanders voters home is the real story here lmao.
God knows I hate Trump but seriously if that is not the textbook of conspiracy and collusion between so called journalists and a campeighn I don't know what is.
Posted 10/13/16
Read the Oded Yinon plan and you realize that they have been planning a greater Israel that includes syria and iraq for quite a while now. In fact they started talking about the creation of Israel as early as the 1870s.

They want a pipeline through Syria to be used as leverage to beat down russia's ability to gain revenue from its oil-gas dealings with europe. And they are willing to "democratize" (aka nearly completely destroy) Syria to get there, which includes supporting ISIS and buying oil illegally from them and such.

That's why UAE and Quatar are on board with what the saudis and israelis want to do in the area, and since the egyptian military is also a nato bitch, they're playing along too.


All about cash flow.


And TPTB certainly dont want it known that one of the companies that hillary was on the board for, was buying oil from ISIS.
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No, it doesn't, this is a WWI era law that was considered to vague even when initially drafted. That's why its been before the supreme court so many times. You can't argue an intent to be grossly negligent here. There was no intent to release, leak or otherwise communicate information to a foreign power. The Espionage Act shouldn't even be being used against whistleblowers.

As for the FRA, amendments to the FRA came after she had already left office. You can argue that she violated it prior ( but would still need sufficient evidence. ) but violating the FRA is essentially going to amount to a fine. Using a private server in and off itself is not illegal. Thats sort of the gist of everything Clinton did. It doesn't look good but it wasn't technically illegal either.

As for any US attorney bringing charges, well, since no charges were brought against Rice or Powell for using private email, or anyone involved when the RNC itself set up a private email server for the entire administration and 22 million emails went missing. The use of private email is pretty common in the State Department. Though I doubt it will be going forward now that everyone suddenly cares about it because of Hillary.

Nevermind that the FBI Director himself use to be Bush's deputy AG.

And for the record ( despite what Hillary says ) the FBI didn't declare her innocent. They found there was insufficient evidence to bring charges. Big difference.

The counter-argument to this by and large is that somehow the FBI and DoJ are in the tank for Hillary and that she's some kind of criminal mastermind that enjoys an untouchable Godfather like level of power. But at the same time is an incompetent, frail old woman on the verge of death. >.>

Just because you didn't get what you wanted doesn't mean its a conspiracy.




So much facepalm in this post. As tons of others know, intent doesnt mean jack, its the exposure itself where the bar is set. So even though we have provable intent in the clinton foundation bribes, she's already guilty by having mishandled the information, red handed with creating her own server infrastructure to avoid FOIA requests. Because it was not just one server. Intent all day long, which is worse than mere incompetence, but to try and assert there was no intent is just silly.

The laws and technology werent the same for rice and powell, not that its an excuse for either of those war criminals. But they are not under scrutiny for running for president, at any rate....so while they belong in jail next to bush cheney and rumsfeld, its just a logical fallacy to rebut criticism by criticizing others. It makes Clinton no less guilty.

The FBI and DOJ were instructed not to open these cans of worms because it is bigger than hillary. How do you think the american people would react to the realization that our unconstitutional clandestine services created, funded, armed, and directed ISIS along with their [email protected] counterparts.

Dont forget that the dancing israelis on 911 were there to document the event, proving foreknowledge and some measure of guilt in the process.
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So much facepalm in this post. As tons of others know, intent doesnt mean jack, its the exposure itself where the bar is set. So even though we have provable intent in the clinton foundation bribes, she's already guilty by having mishandled the information, red handed with creating her own server infrastructure to avoid FOIA requests. Because it was not just one server. Intent all day long, which is worse than mere incompetence, but to try and assert there was no intent is just silly.


Where did the Clinton Foundation come into this? -.-

Please elaborate on where Clinton intended to commit espionage. Yes, her intent was likely to avoid FOIA requests. But again, nothing she did with her set up was technically illegal at the time. Shady? Sure, but not illegal. And the intention to avoid FOIA requests, even if proven, is not a violation of the Espionage Act.



RaisedInACult wrote:The laws and technology werent the same for rice and powell, not that its an excuse for either of those war criminals. But they are not under scrutiny for running for president, at any rate....so while they belong in jail next to bush cheney and rumsfeld, its just a logical fallacy to rebut criticism by criticizing others. It makes Clinton no less guilty.


I was responding specifically to the comment that "any US attorney" would have brought charges. Which, again, as I said only one person has every been tried under the Espionage Act prior to the 1941 ruling on the basis of gross negligence and he was not convicted. So unless Clinton is banging Chinese spies?

And email certainly did exist during the Bush administration. Rice and Powell both used private email addresses. Powell even advised Clinton on the use of a Blackberry in the very investigation we're talking about.



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The FBI and DOJ were instructed not to open these cans of worms because it is bigger than hillary. How do you think the american people would react to the realization that our unconstitutional clandestine services created, funded, armed, and directed ISIS along with their [email protected] counterparts.

Dont forget that the dancing israelis on 911 were there to document the event, proving foreknowledge and some measure of guilt in the process.


Annnd right off into tinfoil hat territory. Alrighty then. Now that we know where each of us stands. -.-

Posted 10/13/16
Uhh, avoiding FOIA when you, the person, are subject to it, is illegal. Whatever gave you the idea that is ok? FOIA doesnt apply just to devices, it applies to individuals. Read the letter of the law and its plain as day, she's ineligible by law to hold further office. Its just too bad we have 2 sets of laws in this country, and if you're a big enough person then you get off scot free.

I didnt say email didnt exist, things like retention policies and such have changed over the years. But please, dont put me in a position of defending Powell or any of the bush clan criminals. As I said it has no bearing on whether or not hillary is guilty.

Lol, tin foil...follow the money, and that's right where it goes. Or were you telling us you believe the laws of physics can be suspended for 8 hours or so when its really needed? Too many in government had too much to be exposed by the SEC's investigations into Enron and Worldcomm, but dont worry, all those singular copies of that evidence went down with building 7, that had no reason to fall much less in perfect demolition fashion.
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RaisedInACult wrote:
So much facepalm in this post. As tons of others know, intent doesnt mean jack, its the exposure itself where the bar is set. So even though we have provable intent in the clinton foundation bribes, she's already guilty by having mishandled the information, red handed with creating her own server infrastructure to avoid FOIA requests. Because it was not just one server. Intent all day long, which is worse than mere incompetence, but to try and assert there was no intent is just silly.


Where did the Clinton Foundation come into this? -.-

Please elaborate on where Clinton intended to commit espionage. Yes, her intent was likely to avoid FOIA requests. But again, nothing she did with her set up was technically illegal at the time. Shady? Sure, but not illegal. And the intention to avoid FOIA requests, even if proven, is not a violation of the Espionage Act.



RaisedInACult wrote:The laws and technology werent the same for rice and powell, not that its an excuse for either of those war criminals. But they are not under scrutiny for running for president, at any rate....so while they belong in jail next to bush cheney and rumsfeld, its just a logical fallacy to rebut criticism by criticizing others. It makes Clinton no less guilty.


I was responding specifically to the comment that "any US attorney" would have brought charges. Which, again, as I said only one person has every been tried under the Espionage Act prior to the 1941 ruling on the basis of gross negligence and he was not convicted. So unless Clinton is banging Chinese spies?

And email certainly did exist during the Bush administration. Rice and Powell both used private email addresses. Powell even advised Clinton on the use of a Blackberry in the very investigation we're talking about.



RaisedInACult wrote:
The FBI and DOJ were instructed not to open these cans of worms because it is bigger than hillary. How do you think the american people would react to the realization that our unconstitutional clandestine services created, funded, armed, and directed ISIS along with their [email protected] counterparts.

Dont forget that the dancing israelis on 911 were there to document the event, proving foreknowledge and some measure of guilt in the process.


Annnd right off into tinfoil hat territory. Alrighty then. Now that we know where each of us stands. -.-



At the heart of the tale are several men, leaders of the Canadian mining industry, who have been major donors to the charitable endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family. Members of that group built, financed and eventually sold off to the Russians a company that would become known as Uranium One.

Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
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What are you trying to prove with this? Besides, the article you posted can't prove that the donations played any role in any of these deals.
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What are you trying to prove with this? Besides, the article you posted can't prove that the donations played any role in any of these deals.


It's all a coincidence! 200 Clinton scandals later and it's all been just one coincidence after another!

Thank god most americans are not ignorant like the majority of Hillary supporters and they see the Clinton's for the lying, stealing, murderous rapists that they are.
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sundin13 wrote:



What are you trying to prove with this? Besides, the article you posted can't prove that the donations played any role in any of these deals.


It's all a coincidence! 200 Clinton scandals later and it's all been just one coincidence after another!

Thank god most americans are not ignorant like the majority of Hillary supporters and they see the Clinton's for the lying, stealing, murderous rapists that they are.


u know this is all the lizard peoples doing. they ocrrupted our system. infiltrater it. it all makes sense. they gonna put us all in gas chambers soon.
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This entire election is just mind numbing.
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RaisedInACult wrote:
Uhh, avoiding FOIA when you, the person, are subject to it, is illegal. Whatever gave you the idea that is ok? FOIA doesnt apply just to devices, it applies to individuals. Read the letter of the law and its plain as day, she's ineligible by law to hold further office. Its just too bad we have 2 sets of laws in this country, and if you're a big enough person then you get off scot free.


Where did I say it was a good thing? What I'm saying is an intent to avoid FOIA is not intent under the Espionage Act. Which is what everyone so desperately wants to prosecute her under despite the fact its a barely constitutional WW1 era mess.



RaisedInACult wrote:I didnt say email didnt exist, things like retention policies and such have changed over the years. But please, dont put me in a position of defending Powell or any of the bush clan criminals. As I said it has no bearing on whether or not hillary is guilty.


No, it doesn't. But again I was specifically replying to the comment that any US attorney would have brought charges. When history thus far shows otherwise.



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Lol, tin foil...follow the money, and that's right where it goes. Or were you telling us you believe the laws of physics can be suspended for 8 hours or so when its really needed? Too many in government had too much to be exposed by the SEC's investigations into Enron and Worldcomm, but dont worry, all those singular copies of that evidence went down with building 7, that had no reason to fall much less in perfect demolition fashion.


Oh God you're a 9/11 truther too?

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