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So watching Re:Zero has really made me ponder things about time travel effects from the POV of those not going back in time. I don't favor the parallel timeline theory because I don't like the idea of unfortunate incidents caused by the time traveler becoming a burden on those "continuing on" in their timeline.

But there is a big consequence to there only being one timeline ie one universe no matter what a time traveler does or how many times they leap back and forth in time: In the case of Subaru from Re:Zero who can't really control his time travel, what if he gets stuck in an endless timeloop? This might happen if he gets put in a prison cell and is unable to kill himself, but then is executed several weeks later. That means he Returns by Death to a time after getting put into the prison cell.

Does that mean the entire universe is also caught in that timeloop, where no one ever percieves a moment beyond the time that Subaru gets executed? If things continue on after that then that must mean there is a separate timeline created for each time Subaru Returns by Death.
Posted 10/13/16
food for thought :)

http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.pdf
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Posted 10/17/16
Timelines are merging towards a focal point.
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the end of this game was confusing, with lucinas end "story" paragraph
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The most frustrating part of complex life theories is just not getting answers, and I think it's safe to say we won't have any of the answers in our lifetime. Shit keeps you awake at night, only to end with a question mark when you give up.
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I think one of the problems with the time travel in Re:Zero is how arbitrary the "save points" were. Since Subaru had no control over it and the mechanism was never explained, it felt like a plot convenience every time a new point was set. So because the mechanism is never actually explained, you are right that he could easily be caught in a loop (what if his save point updated when he was inches away from death?).

While I am generally partial to the parallel timeline idea (which would make Subaru's adventures quite tragic), in the possibility that this is a simulation or fictional world as opposed to just being another universe, it is arguable that the only world that exists is the one he perceives, meaning that behind every door in the world, there is nothing and when a character leaves his sight, they cease to exist.
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JustineKo2 wrote:

So watching Re:Zero has really made me ponder things about time travel effects from the POV of those not going back in time. I don't favor the parallel timeline theory because I don't like the idea of unfortunate incidents caused by the time traveler becoming a burden on those "continuing on" in their timeline.

But there is a big consequence to there only being one timeline ie one universe no matter what a time traveler does or how many times they leap back and forth in time: In the case of Subaru from Re:Zero who can't really control his time travel, what if he gets stuck in an endless timeloop? This might happen if he gets put in a prison cell and is unable to kill himself, but then is executed several weeks later. That means he Returns by Death to a time after getting put into the prison cell.

Does that mean the entire universe is also caught in that timeloop, where no one ever percieves a moment beyond the time that Subaru gets executed? If things continue on after that then that must mean there is a separate timeline created for each time Subaru Returns by Death.


He is a seperate entity his existence has no impact on his environment rather his actions do we learned that from the butterfly effect theory. Time travel is widely veiwed as time being linear in nature. Lets take a piece of paper and say that is our tangent, when we roll it up the edge closest to use touches towards the middle making a loop where current time is the closet edge to us and and the furthest edge is the beginning of our timeline.

If you apply string theory or multiverse theory things get much more exciting.

Although dying in the past would stand to belief that you would die in the present seeing as regardless if you went to a time that you currently existed the future you is still a seperate entity travelling through time that dyed at that point.
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Posted 10/17/16
u can get away with anything in parallel universes
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I was going to type a reply but thought another 'me' would do it in another timeline so 'meh'
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i prefer steins;gate anyway
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-mockingbird wrote:

i prefer steins;gate anyway B)


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Posted 10/18/16
One other thought I had while thinking about this is that parallel universes don't matter. They both can't exist and can exist because any existence outside of our own does not exist. You can just as easily say there is already a parallel universe or millions of parallel timelines or none at all because as beings within this universe it is impossible to have knowledge of anything beyond it. Even if we could somehow intersect with or gain evidence of parallel timelines, then they would impact our own and would therefore not be parallel or separate anymore.
Posted 10/18/16
All timelines are simultaneous, from the vantage point of consciousness, which does not experience time but a persistent 'now.'

Which path one actually winds through is one's expression of free choice. Just because the possibilities all simultaneously exist does not mean that the manifestations thereof simultaneously exist. I think this is where people go wrong with the whole many paths argument, they assume because the path exists we must treat it quantum mechanically and sum all paths or something of the like.

Now put this into a context of e.g. buddhist Interdependent origination...

(I dont think anyone ever asserted this puzzle would be simple :D)
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Posted 10/18/16
I keep trying to convince myself to kill myself so I can try out a different time line because I kinda screwed this one up.
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Posted 10/18/16
just watch Orange,

that explains time travel pretty well
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