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How come pedophilia is allowed in Anime
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Posted 10/14/16 , edited 10/14/16
Loli as its called. I dont wanna google check if i spelled it wrong so..

Either way, if thats ok then i am promoting bestiality as ok. And i can prove it, mares are in heat, they bump into you. It means consent. Therefor bestiality should be legal.

Notice i am joking. But i don't get why it exists? Like why do some promote it?. Its afterall abuse.
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Think it first started out as a joke, then loli anime girls got just so popular.
Zero no tsukaima.. shakugan no shana..
and there are plenty of petite characters that are amazing

like ED from cowboy bebop

One thats super popular now is Beatrice from re:zero :)

The Japanese also have accepted dudes.. being weird. They don't believe people watching Loli = makes them a child "x".

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because its fiction
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Imaginary people cannot give nor deny consent, because they aren't real. We might as well be bitching about animated theft and murder, and even kids playing make-belief with imaginary friends. It's pretend. "Well, sir, the defendant's client drew a picture of a rare and critically-threatened California Condor being shot. He should be prosecuted for poaching!"

Also, there's the whole thing regarding Japanese laws being different than any other countries'.
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Werina wrote:

because its fiction


So if a witch is 10 and she is in reality 110 years old, then its ok. Yeah i can see how this will fuel acceptance. Might aswell start NAMBLA/NAWBLA 2.0 to say fictional works is ok aslong as its not real life. And by that i am just joking.

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Imaginary people cannot give nor deny consent, because they aren't real. We might as well be bitching about animated theft and murder, and even kids playing make-belief with imaginary friends. It's pretend. "Well, sir, the defendant's client drew a picture of a rare and critically-threatened California Condor being shot. He should be prosecuted for poaching!"

Also, there's the whole thing regarding Japanese laws being different than any other countries'.


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XxDarkSasuxX wrote:


aeb0717 wrote:

Imaginary people cannot give nor deny consent, because they aren't real. We might as well be bitching about animated theft and murder, and even kids playing make-belief with imaginary friends. It's pretend. "Well, sir, the defendant's client drew a picture of a rare and critically-threatened California Condor being shot. He should be prosecuted for poaching!"

Also, there's the whole thing regarding Japanese laws being different than any other countries'.




Well there is certain laws forbidding pornographic depictions of children whether its fictional or not. I don't think just because its fictional that it can be allowed. And if so there would likely be a law forbidding anything that can promote it.
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Deyre wrote:


Well there is certain laws forbidding pornographic depictions of children whether its fictional or not. I don't think just because its fictional that it can be allowed. And if so there would likely be a law forbidding anything that can promote it.


Personally, I'd sooner smack someone with a box full of casework regarding real children being harmed than be bothered with cartoons. Plus, I have significant concerns regarding the slippery slope this can easily devolve into, not to mention the pointlessness.
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Japan for the most part has no age of consent, but in modern times, big age differences are still looked on with concern or even outright disgust depending on the ages of those in the relationship.
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I really need to learn to stop reading your threads.... They just give me a headache from making me so confused because they make absolutely NO sense.
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There's that stupid justification again.

"Don't worry, I don't like child bodies, it's just a cartoon guys!"

Yeah no. Reality or Fiction, you're pleasuring yourself to the body of a child.
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keeton52 wrote:

There's that stupid justification again.

"Don't worry, I don't like child bodies, it's just a cartoon guys!"

Yeah no. Reality or Fiction, you're pleasuring yourself to the body of a child.


The argument lies in the touchy subject of "thought-crimes" and in diverting attention away from real children who suffer (by pre-occupying courts with an endless stream of fiction-related crimes). Also, we have the long-winded argument of "correlation does not imply causation." It also brings up an issue regarding fictional pedophilia being given precedence, yet other fictional crimes are brushed aside; crimes that, if committed in real life, easily warrant the death penalty. Why is it that mass-murder, torture, and the like are easily excused as "fiction," but the logic abruptly ends in regard to "lolis"?



Arguably more important; OP hasn't made it clear if he's roping in character designs, since "loli" doesn't necessarily mean that anything remotely sexual even occurs in the fiction.
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I recognize you!

I don't visit the forums very often but I've been extra bored lately and been looking at the top threads on the sidebar in the last couple days. You're the guy who was asking everyone if anyone else is super cringey when it comes to watching "perverted" intimacy scenes in media. You look away because its "indecent".

I don't know what your home life is like, or what the culture is like in Norway, but I can promise you that you are extra, extra prudish when it comes to anything related to relationships compared to basically the entire planet.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is coupled with a complete and total acceptance of violence in media, because "its just cartoons." xD That hypocrisy is another thread though.

A major point of contention around the world is that age of consent and adulthood is not universal, nor is the degrees of severity in sexuality related "crimes."

However the most contentious issue is that pedophili is not a crime.

Sexual assault, rape, those things, are crimes. Being attracted to things, is not. Like Aeb above me mentioned, pursuing this is an attempt at policing thought crimes, which, is not only incredibly difficult and subjective, but incredibly dangerous.

If no one is the victim, there is no crime. Assuming that someone attracted to a cartoon is attracted to a real person is false equivalency, but even if they were, unless they act, what they like is literally none of anyone else's business.

Going from "why is loli allowed!? might as well say beastiliaty is okay too!" is about as absurd as the regressive right in America years ago trying to fight against gay rights because "if a man can marry a man, whats next? polygamy? beastiality!? marrying inanimate objects?" lol. Such nonsense.
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It's a Japanese cultural things, which is a bit creepy....
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