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Collusion between financial sector and the government administration, even during the formation of the said administration.

tldr; summary:

1. Bank executive comes up with list of people for top administration jobs

2. List is followed pretty much TO THE LETTER in forming the new administration

3. The new administration bails out the bank, which the bank executive was a part of

Govenment and banks are in it together in a corrupt collusion ripping us all off, blah blah blah, we've been had and will continue to be had no matter who's in office, etc etc

https://newrepublic.com/article/137798/important-wikileaks-revelation-isnt-hillary-clinton


This was October 6. The election was November 4. And yet Froman, an executive at Citigroup, which would ultimately become the recipient of the largest bailout from the federal government during the financial crisis, had mapped out virtually the entire Obama cabinet, a month before votes were counted. And according to the Froman/Podesta emails, lists were floating around even before that.

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Pretty much. Not to mention the pandering to minorities and a deep-seated hatred for Christians.
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Another of the most important revelations was the coded message to JOhn Podesta the night Scalia was murdered I mean died...

"Didnt think wet works meant pool parties at the Vineyard"
"Sounds like it will be a bad night, we all need to buckle up and double down"
"I am all in"

in the hours before scalia's death







TONS of bad, bad stuff about the establishment in these leaks
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I guess this is where we get out the torches and the pitchforks... and vote for other politicians (that's democracry) if we can find any that are better (that is the sad reality)
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I guess this is where we get out the torches and the pitchforks... and vote for other politicians (that's democracry) if we can find any that are better (that is the sad reality)


Nopers we aren't gonna find "better" in this particular regard because the citizenry gets to bend over no matter who's in office
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I'm uneasy about Wikileaks since they started becoming political. Its one thing to be releasing information of interest to the public. Its another to be actively trying to influence a presidential election while you work with a foreign power ( Russia ). There was evidence of tampering with content in one of their leak batches before. But some people take wikileaks as gospel.



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Another of the most important revelations was the coded message to JOhn Podesta the night Scalia was murdered I mean died...


Was the cult you were raised in a subreddit by any chance?
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nanikore2 wrote:

Nopers we aren't gonna find "better" in this particular regard because the citizenry gets to bend over no matter who's in office


In order to change that people are going to have to get over the pattern of releasing a collective sigh of relief and putting politics in the back of their minds as soon as every major election cycle ends. They'll have to commit to making a consistent effort to obtain long-term, hard-earned gains if they're to change the character of a political system as large and complex as the USA's.

Honestly, I think the best way to handle this going forward is for left-leaning independents to register as Democrats before the next set of elections so they can't be shut out again, for progressives to run for office at every level in as many elections as possible, for people to attend party meetings and events both large and small, for people to assist one another in getting to the polls (particularly progressives among university students, the elderly, and the poor), for people to keep track of ballot initiatives for progressive causes and to spread the word about them as much as possible, for people to gather signatures for more ballot initiatives to come, and for people to point out when the Democratic Party goes against progressivism (like they are with Amendment 69 in Colorado). Keep track of opponents' voting records and donor lists, and hit them where it hurts again, and again, and again. Get jobs in the DNC if you're able so you can contribute to a positive atmosphere for progressive changes in the party's central core.

At least, at least, more people need to pay attention to and participate in primary election cycles and stay abreast of any funny tricks the parties are trying to pull. DNC has the debate schedule set so people won't be likely to watch? Record it or watch a stream later. Democratic rules have deadlines for party registration set ridiculously early? Notify people in advance and help them get registered. Hatchet pieces about progressive candidates are being published in The Atlantic, The Washington Post, Politico, and The New York Times? Point out that they're hatchet pieces and explain why they are and what they're getting wrong to as many people as you can, and point out the conflicts of interest if the authors have any.

It's not easy, exciting, or fast work to change a political system. The payoffs may not even be evidently approaching for two, maybe even three election cycles' worth of consistent effort. But it's basically the only way to fix this problem in a lasting, effective way, and we've seen there are enough people supporting progressive ideas to effect those changes.
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I'm uneasy about Wikileaks since they started becoming political. Its one thing to be releasing information of interest to the public. Its another to be actively trying to influence a presidential election while you work with a foreign power ( Russia ). There was evidence of tampering with content in one of their leak batches before. But some people take wikileaks as gospel.


Assange's modus operandi isn't that, and it isn't exactly news to anyone either

https://www.wired.com/2016/10/want-know-julian-assanges-endgame-told-decade-ago/
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"MS. CLINTON: Well, I think their
traditional policy has been close to what you've
described. We don't want a unified Korean
peninsula, because if there were one South Korea
would be dominant for the obvious economic and
political reasons.
We don't want the North Koreans to
cause more trouble than the system can absorb. So
we've got a pretty good thing going with the
previous North Korean leaders. And then along
comes the new young leader, and he proceeds to
insult the Chinese. He refuses to accept
delegations coming from them. He engages in all
kinds of both public and private rhetoric, which
seems to suggest that he is preparing himself to
stand against not only the South Koreans and the
Japanese and the Americans, but also the Chinese.
So the new leadership basically calls
him on the carpet. And a high ranking North Korean
military official has just finished a visit in
Beijing and basically told: Cut it out. Just stop
it. Who do you think you are? And you are
dependent on us, and you know it. And we expect
you to demonstrate the respect that your father and
your grandfather showed toward us, and there will
be a price to pay if you do not."

like, holy crap, lol.
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nanikore2 wrote:
Assange's modus operandi isn't that, and it isn't exactly news to anyone either
https://www.wired.com/2016/10/want-know-julian-assanges-endgame-told-decade-ago/


Your article proves my point. >.>


Of course, Assange’s claim that a political party leaks in direct proportion to its dishonesty looks almost laughable after the last several months. WikiLeaks has published leaks exclusively damaging to Clinton and the Democratic Party, while publishing nothing from Donald Trump or his campaign.



In fact, the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence have both said that recent WikiLeaks releases originated with Russian state-sponsored hackers seeking to influence US electoral politics. Assange’s essay doesn’t account for the possibility that a government might exploit or collude with a leak platform like WikiLeaks.


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nanikore2 wrote:
Assange's modus operandi isn't that, and it isn't exactly news to anyone either
https://www.wired.com/2016/10/want-know-julian-assanges-endgame-told-decade-ago/


Your article proves my point. >.>


Of course, Assange’s claim that a political party leaks in direct proportion to its dishonesty looks almost laughable after the last several months. WikiLeaks has published leaks exclusively damaging to Clinton and the Democratic Party, while publishing nothing from Donald Trump or his campaign.



In fact, the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence have both said that recent WikiLeaks releases originated with Russian state-sponsored hackers seeking to influence US electoral politics. Assange’s essay doesn’t account for the possibility that a government might exploit or collude with a leak platform like WikiLeaks.




...because killing Donald isn't going to exactly kill the Repubs. I've said all along that people are using Donald as a hand grenade
Posted 10/15/16 , edited 10/15/16

runec wrote:

I'm uneasy about Wikileaks since they started becoming political. Its one thing to be releasing information of interest to the public. Its another to be actively trying to influence a presidential election while you work with a foreign power ( Russia ). There was evidence of tampering with content in one of their leak batches before. But some people take wikileaks as gospel.



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Another of the most important revelations was the coded message to JOhn Podesta the night Scalia was murdered I mean died...


Was the cult you were raised in a subreddit by any chance?


you're uneasy about wikileaks having a ton of bad crap about the clintons and the establishment, and think they are being biased because there isnt the similar massive fields of fodder upon which to draw?

*facepalm*

Russia knows they are up against the globalists, which is why they expect war if the globalist candidate is able to steal the election.



and here's a link for you www.yourlogicalfallacyis.com - it'll help when trying to debate people and present a logically sound argument.

you can start with the ad hominem section
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"T-the emails are fabricated lies!"
"T-the emails were taken by Russian hackers!"
*two americans get arrested for hacking*




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RaisedInACult wrote:
you're uneasy about wikileaks having a ton of bad crap about the clintons and the establishment, and think they are being biased because there isnt the similar massive fields of fodder upon which to draw?


See, but what I said is backed up by the US intelligent community. What you said is a conspiracy theory.




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and here's a link for you www.yourlogicalfallacyis.com - it'll help when trying to debate people and present a logically sound argument.

you can start with the ad hominem section


When you present something other than a stream of conspiracy theories you can talk about "logically sound argument"s. I did try to debate you at first until you started wandering off into jet fuel steel beam territory. There's no point in debating tin foil hat arguments.




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...because killing Donald isn't going to exactly kill the Repubs. I've said all along that people are using Donald as a hand grenade


I have a feeling that we are perhaps on two different topics?
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Is this considered damning, because it doesn't read that way to me. It sounds like people collaborating with experts to figure out who the other experts are.
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