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First of all just in case!: lets not make this a super heated discussion!

I know that this is a very touchy topic especially when it comes to watching anime and stuff but this topic has been bothering me for quite a while and I want answers and opinions!

Do you guys believe that it is alright to be a Christian and watch/support yaoi and hentai? Furthermore what you guys think about homosexual and bisexual relationships? How do you think these topics relate to the Bible?

Once again please don't argue with each other for we are all brothers and sisters in Christ also please don't bash homosexual or bisexual people because they definitely have feelings too and deserve respect like the rest of us!!!

I give permission to the forum moderators to delete this post right away if it gets out of hand lol
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hmmm

well I dont think that I can say that supporting yaoi or hentai is right because I think that anything that depicts sexual perversions is wrong. Even if it's drawn. It harms the soul and can harm future/current marriages.

I also think that homosexuality and bisexuality is wrong because we were not created asexual. We are of different sexes. God created both a male and a femal half of the human being. two different sexes are there for a reason. In my opinion, homosexuality is a perversion of the natural. But I think that sometimes it can't be helped, though even if someone lusts for someone else of the same sex, they have the power to not take part in a sexual activity, I've heard stories of it happening. I think it's all a matter of the beliefs of the person. I can't condemn homosexuals because it's not my place, I, myself am not perfect, but I can't say they are right in their choices either
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Magnus I want exp. of Homosexual animals. By the way animals do not have a spirt. Oh by the may RivrStyx said he could not condemn homosexuals because he did not have the right. He is right believers are not to judge others. It states that all thru out the BIBLE in the old as well as the new. Paul said that the only thing we are alowed to hate is the sin. NOT the siner. As I said before. Hate is of man and Love is of GOD
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The Christian stance, from what I understand, is this: It is not sinful to have homosexual urges or tendency. It is sinful to act on them. The moral thing to do, according to Christians, it to remain chaste. As for pornography, it is all immoral, no matter what format. This is the Catholic Christian stance and it probably reciprocates in other denominations. This is not my opinion, this is academic regurgitation.
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He didn't say it was sin to have sex. Our bodies are temples of God, hence we are to treat them with care. Remaining loyal to your marraige partner with the love that God gave us. Homosexuality is confusion. Surely there have been people who are born with more male or female chromosomes, but if you're perfectly fine, but choose to be homosexual for your own reasons, then it's strange.

You cannot ignore different cases with different reasons. Not all homosexuals have no choice. Some have been socialised into it. Some traumatised before, their experiences in the past would make up their choices in the present. Convincing a gay friend that homo is normal is not. Rather, you should be telling them that they should not feel condemned just because they are in the middle of a sin which man has obviously made it so pointedly that it's WRONG and you should die etc. Come on.

To God, it doesn't matter if you have secretly thought of sexual fantasies against someone you know you should not, or you actually become homo. A sin is a sin. Even if you stole a watermelon it is still a sin. Have you not yet understood that it is not man's capability to live the life of Jesus? We all fall into sin, what kind does not matter. What's important is that we know that Jesus has already saved us from our failures, and it's ok not to condemn yourself about it. When your identity is secure in Christ, people's opinions won't matter. Meaning you know you're loved despite your short comings.

This is different from telling a homo to IGNORE other people. Cos you know that ignore you can, but sometimes you still feel ostracized. God extends love, Man can only extend isolation.

SAME like any other sin, once you put your sights on him, He'll break your strongholds. The temptations just start to go away, it's not like once you follow Jesus you have to by your own effort try your best to ignore. No! There's nothing to ignore, even if you fall into sin, thank Jesus for he has saved! If man were to be judged by our own performances, no one would be saved.
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Magnus I want exp. of Homosexual animals. By the way animals do not have a spirt. Oh by the may RivrStyx said he could not condemn homosexuals because he did not have the right. He is right believers are not to judge others. It states that all thru out the BIBLE in the old as well as the new. Paul said that the only thing we are alowed to hate is the sin. NOT the siner. As I said before. Hate is of man and Love is of GOD


I assume you mean you want links? Thats fine with me. Here are two from fairly good sources. I can get more but this should be enough for now.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html


http://www.livescience.com/animals/061116_homosexual_animals.html

Skygod: Well I think it is wrong that those people should be forced to be alone or be damned to hell. What would you do if it was a sin to have sex with a woman? I doubt you would be chaste myself. I know you said it is not your stance but I am assuming you believe it. It seems so very cruel to me. I am glad that I was able to convince my gay friend to become an atheist. He is much more happy now that he ignores people telling him something very normal is wrong.


Again Magnus, that is not my opinion. Please read my post. I was simply stating the CATHOLIC Christian stance (Not my own) on it. The stance that I have been taught. It's academic regurgitation.
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I won't argue with you, neither will I change my response. You won't understand my words, no matter how many times I say them.

Quick to anger, slow to understanding, a man of little faith would only believe after seeing.

How would you feel if you're accused and the only person closest to you refuse to believe in you just because they are presented with evidence? If there is no love, there is no trust and faith.

A man who does not believe that they are in need to be saved does not need Jesus, and therefore, have no business being in the midst of children of Jesus. His children will only sing his praises and do nothing more.

If one takes the Bible in parts, his idea of God is in parts.

Lastly, this is not a thread on homosexuality
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im getting headaches here again....
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magnus102 wrote:


skygod333 wrote:


magnus102 wrote:


Ratman21 wrote:

Magnus I want exp. of Homosexual animals. By the way animals do not have a spirt. Oh by the may RivrStyx said he could not condemn homosexuals because he did not have the right. He is right believers are not to judge others. It states that all thru out the BIBLE in the old as well as the new. Paul said that the only thing we are alowed to hate is the sin. NOT the siner. As I said before. Hate is of man and Love is of GOD


I assume you mean you want links? Thats fine with me. Here are two from fairly good sources. I can get more but this should be enough for now.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html


http://www.livescience.com/animals/061116_homosexual_animals.html

Skygod: Well I think it is wrong that those people should be forced to be alone or be damned to hell. What would you do if it was a sin to have sex with a woman? I doubt you would be chaste myself. I know you said it is not your stance but I am assuming you believe it. It seems so very cruel to me. I am glad that I was able to convince my gay friend to become an atheist. He is much more happy now that he ignores people telling him something very normal is wrong.


Again Magnus, that is not my opinion. Please read my post. I was simply stating the CATHOLIC Christian stance (Not my own) on it. The stance that I have been taught. It's academic regurgitation.

READ MY POST! I said I know you said it was not your stance but I assumed you believed it.


Don't assume. I am a renegade compared to a traditional Christian.
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Posted 2/13/08 , edited 4/18/08
oy this is getting slightly annoying i didn't start this thread to argue about homosexuality >.<!!!...also if you want a scientific reason to why i don't believe that homosexuality is normal biological process i can definitely give you one but i truly don't see the point. God is science if you sit here and think there is NO way that everything in this universe was created from pure coincidence! Life in its entirety is waaay too complex!

Now to get back to the main topic!!!!

Wat do you guys think about yaoi, hentai, and yuri...or however you spell it...

personally as a Christian i think that we should watch animes that include these to an absolute minimum =)...of course we are human and get carried away sometimes when it comes to perversions of the flesh and "raging hormones" lol!~ but it's our duty as followers of Jesus to keep our bodies, hearts, eyes, mouth, and souls clean! Like Fae said earlier our bodies are the temple of God! Jesus lives in our hearts and every time we watch things we shouldn't watch, say things to others that we shouldn't say, and do things we shouldn't do we're actually putting God on hold for other temporary things that we think are more important...

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its been two months that ive encountered the word hentai... but i dont even know what kind of anime it is... sorry for the ignorance... lol
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Posted 2/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
Emm, hentai is basically anime porn. I'd suggest you don't attempt to go to any of the websites...
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Posted 2/14/08 , edited 4/18/08
hai!...
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I find porn of any kind useless, boring and utterly retarded. It's totally uninteresting to me.
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