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A Katana sword for those who do not know but its basically what samurais wielded back then. I have seen videos depending on sources where they test which one is stronger. Basically the ironing tools they used back then on Katana swords wasnt the greatest i've heard so it would by default lose. But however if you refined it with the more improved ironing which was imported from China i think which they got info on its purifying swords. So basically a refined Samurai sword would be superior in terms of cuts, i usually imagine the longsword more of a bashing weapon while katana is more for clean cuts.

But eeeh i tend to think its the user who wins in general. But just wondering your views. I guess its the typical xbox vs playstation. Its no winner. If you were Kenshin you could likely cut a building though
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I guess it would depend on the context, right? I mean if I'm not mistaken the european longsword was developped for warfare, whereas the katana was designed for dueling. It's a pretty situational thing.
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octorockandroll wrote:

I guess it would depend on the context, right? I mean if I'm not mistaken the european longsword was developped for warfare, whereas the katana was designed for dueling. It's a pretty situational thing.


I heard it was also just a symbolic thing too. Like what samurai's would just wear because it represents them as warriors. I heard spears and bows and arrows was more used as weapon than the swords early on. Just from what i searched long time ago
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日本の刀が最高です。
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Deyre wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

I guess it would depend on the context, right? I mean if I'm not mistaken the european longsword was developped for warfare, whereas the katana was designed for dueling. It's a pretty situational thing.


I heard it was also just a symbolic thing too. Like what samurai's would just wear because it represents them as warriors. I heard spears and bows and arrows was more used as weapon than the swords early on. Just from what i searched long time ago


This is true, like I said, the katana was meant for honourable 1-on-1 challenges. Those fights were mostly for style.
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Deyre wrote:
i tend to think its the user who wins in general.


I tend to agree. Thing is, by the time the European longsword was even developed, the Japanese had been making katanas and practicing kenjutsu for over a thousand years. I think they had better users. Even today, I think the Japanese traditions and forms are vastly superior to what you can get out of German fechtbuks and Giacomo di Grasse's rapier training.
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That 刀刀 sounds like it has got a real upper-hand on the 欧の大刀, not only because the European longsword is now apparently considered a blunt object, but holy shit that 刀刀 has got 刀 multiplied by 刀 in its very name.
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Deyre wrote:
i tend to think its the user who wins in general.


I tend to agree. Thing is, by the time the European longsword was even developed, the Japanese had been making katanas and practicing kenjutsu for over a thousand years. I think they had better users. Even today, I think the Japanese traditions and forms are vastly superior to what you can get out of German fechtbuks and Giacomo di Grasse's rapier training.


Oh for the love of god ya Weeaboo the European Longsword and the Japanese Katana show up exactly around the same time ,at around the mid to late 1300s. And a sword is a sword, it is nothing more then a sharpened hunk of metal forged to a particular shape. Ya can apply the same techniques more or less to any sword . The curvature on Japanese only lends itself better to draw and push cuts while the Straight edge and distal taper of a Longsword lends itself to thrusts and stabs.
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Here's a few videos that can help. There are lots of thing different between the two swords, including the fighting style used to weld it, so I think there will always be two sides battling it out on which is better, but right now it would seem the katana has the lead.

https://vimeo.com/80437754

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkoj932YFo
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Guess what weapon Marcus Octavius prefer to go with?



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Doesn't "katana" already translate to "sword" or "blade?"
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keeton52 wrote:

Doesn't "katana" already translate to "sword" or "blade?"


Funny enough both a European Knight and a Japanese Samurai would have referred to their weapons as merely swords, there was literally no historical attempt to differentiate between sword types back in those days.

Though yes calling it a Katana sword is rather redundant.
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swords has never been for bashing, real maintained western swords was very sharp and could easily cut thru flesh and bones and they was flexible to avoid breaking or bending to easily.
katanas due to the folding technique made them increddibly hard and they was very sharp, but they was far more brittle and inflexible compared to western swords and could not handle parrying and shield blocks as well as the western swords. so in a 1 vs 1 battle between a samurai and a knight in late medieval era the knight by all likelyhoods wins due to the samurai fighting styles and the katana not beeing able to handle a full plate armour.

and just to add, the plate armor was anything but slow and cumbersome, in full plate you are in fact allmost unhindered moveing around, late era armor could actualy even handle inhuman flexibility.
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JanusCascade wrote:

Guess what weapon Marcus Octavius prefer to go with?





Looks like the roman sword, gladius if i am not mistaken
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JanusCascade wrote:

Guess what weapon Marcus Octavius prefer to go with?





Looks like the roman sword, gladius if i am not mistaken



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