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Posted 10/18/16 , edited 2/19/17
So, do you think there's any possible chance Berserk would go back to being a 2D animation? I'd say if the anime was rendered the way the animations in the OP were it'd look incredible! I still enjoyed it 'cause it's Berserk, but the CGI was nothing less than lackluster, clunky, and bland.

Anyhow, does anyone know about any news about them possibly changing the art style for the next season?
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I can't believe studios even use CGI .. It just reminds me of the days when I used to watch Zoid Chaotic Century before I went off to school ... literally the CGI quality is still the same as way back then :/ BTW I'm 27 so that was a LONG time ago! Berserk CGI quality is no different to the CGI used in Zoids heck even Beast Wars had similar CGI :/
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Posted 10/18/16

EmperorGanishka wrote:

I can't believe studios even use CGI .. It just reminds me of the days when I used to watch Zoid Chaotic Century before I went off to school ... literally the CGI quality is still the same as way back then :/ BTW I'm 27 so that was a LONG time ago! Berserk CGI quality is no different to the CGI used in Zoids heck even Beast Wars had similar CGI :/


Yeah! It's a slap in the face that they did this to fanatics. I mean, the wait was insanely long. (Especially for those who have been on par since the beginning!) Also, it's one of the best drawn manga, for it to be rendered so poorly just isn't right, it's Berserk! Anyhow, I hope there's some change in the future, at least more effort. If you pause and look closely on some of the scenes, some of the "possessed" cultists in the mob are literally copy pasted about four times.
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Posted 10/18/16

salamisama wrote:


EmperorGanishka wrote:

I can't believe studios even use CGI .. It just reminds me of the days when I used to watch Zoid Chaotic Century before I went off to school ... literally the CGI quality is still the same as way back then :/ BTW I'm 27 so that was a LONG time ago! Berserk CGI quality is no different to the CGI used in Zoids heck even Beast Wars had similar CGI :/


Yeah! It's a slap in the face that they did this to fanatics. I mean, the wait was insanely long. (Especially for those who have been on par since the beginning!) Also, it's one of the best drawn manga, for it to be rendered so poorly just isn't right, it's Berserk! Anyhow, I hope there's some change in the future, at least more effort. If you pause and look closely on some of the scenes, some of the "possessed" cultists in the mob are literally copy pasted about four times.


The odd times the characters are actually drawn in and they are drawn so well it's like... err why CGI bruuh!? I was hype for Ajin but then when I saw CGI it really put me off :/
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Posted 10/18/16 , edited 10/18/16
Agreed, CGI is garbage. It "can" be nice, but the amount of love and attention it needs to be that way doesn't really justify using it. Animation has always been nice, and modern animation is something I'm a huge fan of.

CGI... just has so little impact, it definitely LOOKS computer generated.

Honestly, even good CGI is a bit lackluster... and most of it isn't "good CGI" anyway, no matter what production you're talking about. I would have been more satisfied with the original drawing style / animation style. Much less "copy / paste"
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Posted 10/18/16
If they keep the same studios....nope it will remain CGI with 2D thrown in here and there.

There are two main studios involved with the animation in Berserk 2016, one that is more geared towards CG animation and the other is a 2D animation studio, but all of their non-Berserk works have been shorts with episodes no longer than 4 minutes(it's the studio that took over doing the Teekyuu franchise after MAPPA and has done all of its spin offs).

Even if they ditch the CG studio and kept the 2D studio I can assure you the show would eventually look like ass, because this studio has never done a full length anime yet(even in Berserk they only ended up doing bits and pieces), so I don't think they could handle the workload a full length 2D show requires.

You want a fully 2D animated Berserk that means getting new studios, which means the production committee needs to open up their wallet and spend a little. But it is clear they are doing this on the cheap so unfortunately either stick to the manga or accept that Berserk will probably never have the visual fidelity in anime form it requires(which honestly has a lot to do with the insane detailing of the manga, not even the best studios can fully recreate that detailing and keep it going for even 12 episodes).
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It's does not matter because they don't have enough skilled people and time to get even close to the manga art Quality and I'm not even talking about the new chapters. This anime has been a cash grab for the get go and a fuck you to manga readers. I find it amazing how people give this Anime a pass for its Quality but will rip other anime.
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Yeah I'd say there's absolutely no chance they're going to drop the CG lol.

Here and there in the anime there were some quick snippets of 2D to rub salt in the wounds actually.



Also there are very different levels of CG quality, compare the studio that did Sidonia/Ajin to the studio doing Berserk to the studio doing BBK/BRNK for instance.
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Posted 10/18/16

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Yeah I'd say there's absolutely no chance they're going to drop the CG lol.

Here and there in the anime there were some quick snippets of 2D to rub salt in the wounds actually.



Also there are very different levels of CG quality, compare the studio that did Sidonia/Ajin to the studio doing Berserk to the studio doing BBK/BRNK for instance.


Sanzigen, the studio doing BBK/BRNK(and who also did Arpeggio of Blue Steel), are the best studio when it comes to doing an entire work out of CGI, at least when it comes to TV anime.
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JoJo's intro has some pretty good cg. I wouldn't mind it if they used the same techniques they used for the advent,decent cg models with 2d drawn faces. Of course I'd much prefer full 2d,but the chances of that seem low.
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I don't mind the CG in the Berserk movies so much, but the TV series was bad. Unfortunately I think it's there to stay.
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Probs because the CG was so poorly received by their audience. I didn't even really watch it, but there was certainly some moments where I saw screengrabs & clips where it looked abominable. I wasn't a fan of RWBY for the fact that it was mostly CG either from an art perspective either tbh. CG in anime is still not going to have any boastfulness over handdrawn. It's just not gonna look better, not in its current stage.
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Well after binge watching RWBY I'm willing to give the style a chance. Granted it's not entirely the same but my point being, rwbys style put me off when I was ignorant of how popular the series was. But after giving it a chance, I'm now a huge fan of the series and couldn't see it being any other way. But rwbys a special case imo. I personally prefer the 2d drawing style, but again, I got my eye wiped when I gave rwby a chance and loved it. Who knows, maybe the same will happened with me when I start Berserk. Bottom line, as long as the storyline rocks graphic style is the last thing on my list. (But I do understand the frustration of CGI in anime).
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Posted 3/11/17
As I've said before, the good CG is the CG you don't even notice.

From what I understand, the problem with the current Beserk anime isn't CG, it is a low production budget. If they were using traditional animation, we'd be complaining about traditional animation budget-saving shortcuts being used (e.g., fewer frames, less detail, re-used animation, etc.).
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Posted 3/11/17
they should just use regular art style, Look it would be better than 3d animation. Even in the manga comparison I can see it.

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