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Mabe it's worth bragging about to people that see it as a rare event or that they believe it's especially charitable of them because of how important they are.
No matter the reason for charity, it'd be nice if more people would follow through.
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AlastorCrow wrote:


Humms wrote:

Charity

Don't make me laugh harder. After all of the donations over the past 30-40 years you would think by now things would start changing.

It's a joke for people to get noticed, and scam you out of your money. Like a child screaming waiting in line at Walmart to get attention.

If you actually think a charity is going to do something think again, and the actual kind souls who actually give that money back are the ones who get shutdown and bankrupt. All of these individuals supporting a charity, look at their lives. They wouldn't know what dirt felt like even if someone pushed them to the ground by force. If you want to raise money for a real cause, then do it, but don't blind the public eye like we are just simple minded puppets.

Welcome to the world of the plastic beach.


You do understand that not all charities are the same which is why it's important to do your research before you open your wallet right? I tend to throw my support to local causes run by volunteers and it's not that difficult to gather information on how they handle funds. Change as a whole would be ideal but it's much easier said than done. In a lot of cases, charities simply alleviate the symptoms of the problem rather than treat the cause but even something that seems so simple could mean the whole world to those that received the help. Have you ever done research on them or engaged in charities or are you just pulling your conclusions from thin air? I mean no offense but one has to wonder.

If people's actions are what ultimately dictates their worth, then the ones who prefer to sit idly by and criticize donors and volunteers who actively participate in helping others in need are worthless, don't you think?


I don't have to do any research. Like I already said, if you want to contribute to a worth while cause then do it, but charities as a whole are pointless. It doesn't solve the problem, it just prolongs it so we can continue to support it creating a worth while investment for those who care only about the percentage of revenue they recieve from doing so.

You can't cure cancer with money, so why bother raising money for it? The only way you cure cancer is to find a solution, just like with anything, we find a solution to the problem. Throwing money at something in hopes it will solve itself is being driven by the wrong intentions.

If someone needs help let them grab my hand, do not hope for change from common wealth from those who see money as something to throw away. Money can change our situation, not solve it, in the end it is the hard working individuals who see eye to eye with everyone else like myself.

I have my own problems, and so does the rest of the world. Maybe one day when I don't have to worry about myself I can truly change something for the better, until then I will sit idle on my own needs until I can earn the right to help others properly.
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Posted 10/20/16 , edited 10/20/16
So you don't have to do any research but you feel qualified enough to speak about the topic and complain about it. Ignorance is not your friend when it comes to discussing these complex matters. Cancer research, for example, has multiple elements to it. Money, in a lot of cases, isn't spent wisely based on poor results but there's reason for that if you look deeper into the nature of the disease. There certainly have been advancements in treatment within the past 2 decades, albeit small, and recently, Sloan Kettering in NY has developed a way to utilize a person's own immunity to fight against certain types of cancer, which is a huge milestone leap in the field. One of my patients is currently undergoing treatment there and results have been excellent so far and that, from what I've seen, means the world to him and his family.

Let's explore other factors: cancer is a blanket term for a multitude of diseases. Even within, say breast cancer, there are different subtypes of cancer and each of them react differently to treatment. Understanding cancer is paramount if we wish to reduce the 1 in 4 death ratio which now exists.

The other important factor is individual lifestyle change. People expect the medical field to prescribe medication that would undo decades long abuse and neglect of their own health through poor diet, no exercise, smoking, etc. Well, that's that.

As for your last statement, yes, we all have our personal needs to fulfill but some of us still manage to find ways to contribute. It's one thing to stay on the sidelines but another to do so while talking trash and belittling the efforts by those who actively participate. Good luck with life.
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Posted 10/20/16 , edited 10/20/16
Qualified oh you slay me.

You would be fighting this battle of the donation forever, and the only thing it will accomplish is your ability to give away your money in the hopes and dreams of a cure nobody actually wants to discover. You just need to give it time for that to sink in.

Isn't it a better story for someone to hear? instead of living a happy life we love to hear all about the struggle. Is that not what people enjoy talking about? Where would our lives be if not for the discussion of such things?

I'd like to think you understand the meaning of kindness, but you haven't figured out the problem yet.

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You're speaking from a point of ignorance. I tried to educate you on the matter and you still managed to absorb nothing. I guess some people are more interested in being "right" than they are about learning through discussions.

Have you actually ever done anything to contribute or do you just drown yourself in anime and complain about everything? Forget about your excuses for a day and take the time to engage in these matters first-hand or just set aside an hour and benefit from reading about them before attempting to make yourself sound clever in a discussion. You might not realize it but everyone else can hear that howling noise coming from your empty head when you try to discuss matters beyond your limited knowledge.

Have a good one. I tried.
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Posted 10/20/16 , edited 10/20/16
Generally I find most people who claim to be cheratable fall into one of three catigories.
Category one the most common: I give little or nothing but claim to support it so I look like I care because I am trying to get laid or am trying to fit in with a social group.
Category two: I am actually donating a bunch of money to get an even larger tax break while looking socialay choncious to get laid or fit into a social group.
Rarely will you find that elusive third rail person. The one who actually gives a substantial amount of their time and money, and keeps their mouth shut about it because they are not doing it for attention.this third group often donates a substantial amount of their most valuable asset, time. They usually do it for local not big splash attention seeking "causes". Amungst these unsung hero's are volunteer firefighters and volunteer ambulance crews who dedicate far more than YouTube post activists, millionaire stars and internet billionaires. All of whom really are not sacrificing a damn thing, and more often than not are actually profiting from their so called " charity".
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I FUCKING LOVE HELPING PEOPLE IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE NEED MY HELP BECAUSE THEY'RE SCRUBS. I ENJOY LOOKING DOWN FROM AN IVORY TOWER LACED WITH GOLD AND JEWELRY AS THOSE PEASANTS STRUGGLE TO CLIMB UPWARDS TO SUCCESS.
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I do find it lol worthy that the actress from the snowden moove has her pantis in a wad because she actually got arrested at an envrionactivist protest. Isn't that supposed to be the objective if you are a starlet trying to earn her liberal bones. You know cival disobedience usually means an arrest at the very least. Back in the 70's it often ment dog attacks, beatings, fire hoses, murder ect.... If you were famous or lucky you got arrested lmao. Activists these days are a bunch of chicken shit keyboard commando's. They are only in as long as they benefit, as soon as it actually costs them something IRL they whine.
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Posted 10/26/16 , edited 10/26/16

AlastorCrow wrote:

I'm not particularly wealthy but I've been donating for years to causes I support. Bragging? Sometimes, perhaps. It sure as hell beats "sending prayers *insert prayer hands emoji*" and talking about being a better person but doing nothing to bring positive change to the world. I've been working in the healthcare field for years as well and I've been in several situations where I had to help people involved in accidents in public, while I'm off duty. Outside of dealing with pathetic talkers like you, you'll never hear a word about any of it.

Refunded charity donations sounds terrible but there's two sides to the argument. Plenty of charities misrepresent themselves and allocate the donations in very questionable ways that end up funneling it to certain people's pockets which is why it's very important to do research prior to putting down your billing info. It prevents these false organizations from collecting funds and reduces your "buyer's" remorse because you know where your money goes at the end.

Since you're so interested in this topic. Might I ask, what have you done in your life that has brought about positive change to the world? Anything at all? I'm curious because you strike me as a person who loves to preach and bitch but do you have the chops to back it up?


What?
I feel like I should ask you to explain yourself in a way that doesn't make me want to roast you.
Because I probably will.
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Posted 10/26/16
Well being charitable should be seen as an act of selflessness and bragging is an act of selfishness so...
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Posted 10/26/16 , edited 10/26/16

Sir_jamesalot wrote:


AlastorCrow wrote:

Since you're so interested in this topic. Might I ask, what have you done in your life that has brought about positive change to the world? Anything at all? I'm curious because you strike me as a person who loves to preach and bitch but do you have the chops to back it up?


What?
I feel like I should ask you to explain yourself in a way that doesn't make me want to roast you.
Because I probably will.



No answer? Not a single thing? Thought so. Lol.

Have fun living a useless life
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Posted 10/26/16
the honest true behind closed door

what's the point of charity when you need to host some event that cost 1/3 or more of the money you bring in ?

but this is how they do things

"look! i donated to this charity"

letting the whole world know
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