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Posted 10/21/16 , edited 10/21/16


It's obvious there is some hardware in the dock tho. I mean just look at the controller ports.
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Just like a tablet, Switch's cpu/gpu power is heavily limited by the mobile form factor and battery-power limitations.


That's why we're HEADING there and not THERE. A lot of technical problems need to be solved, and then a lot of consumer concerns need to be addressed. Currently the meaningful patent race is among Apple, Microsoft, Intel, and HTC. If Nintendo gets into the game, I'm betting they have a strong hand to play.

Like I said, we're not really heading "there", only "sort of". Mobile devices are heavily limited in performance by their form-factor, and that will never change: Any hardware advancements in terms of making components smaller and/or more efficient benefits both and so doesn't actually narrow the gap.

It doesn't actually remove the problem, but cloud computing is where mobile is likely ultimately headed, since it sidesteps the form-factor limitations. Nintendo's Switch doesn't do that though, so it fully suffers from the limitations of its mobile form-factor.

I'm not bashing Nintendo, or the device, but literally all Nintendo has done is make a handheld that you can plug into your TV like a console - not a console you can carry around like a handheld.
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I cannot imagine that the power consumption or battery capacity for the switch's mobile usage will be good.

It reminds me of the Sega Game Gear. I realize I am comparing today's technology with a 25 year old handheld that was backlit with a flourescent tube...but the feeling is there none-the-less for me.
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I cannot imagine that the power consumption or battery capacity for the switch's mobile usage will be good.

It reminds me of the Sega Game Gear. I realize I am comparing today's technology with a 25 year old handheld that was backlit with a flourescent tube...but the feeling is there none-the-less for me.


We have tablets that can do things similar to the switch, though not on the same level, and their battery lives are fine. Still I probably would wait to purchase it. If it really is going to be the continuation of nintendo's handhelds then that means a better version is going to come out a year or so later.
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I think the Switch is a good balance of trying something new for video games while also not going for something completely crazy and weird. It's just a tablet with attachable Bluetooth controllers pretty much. You can do this with phones already, including hooking them up to the TV.

So long as the thing runs 1080p @ 60fps on the go, or maybe a slightly lower resolution that still has about the same pixel density per square inch as 1080p on a standard size hdtv, I'm happy and excited for it.

The device also looks like something other than just a children's toy, and the marketing looks like they're trying to broaden their demographic a bit as well. If I recall correctly, there was no children or family gameplay, like the Wii U focused much too heavily on. It's not a baby console this time, hopefully.

If they combine their handheld AND home console library for this thing, I'm buying 3. However, it looks like the screen may not (I would say it's likely) have a touch screen, meaning they would either rework all their ds titles slightly to fit a non-touch, single screen device or drop them completely. I really hope they do something to make the handheld + home console collection mix. There's so many 3ds titles that I love that I just can't get myself to play because I can't stand the tiny screens, and I prefer playing on a TV. I would buy and play so much more if I could play Pokemon and Ace Attorney and others if I could play them on the TV.

Also since the screen isn't tiny and horrible, I would actually maybe take it around and play it in handheld mode more than I played any other solely handheld device.

I don't understand why some people think this is bad already. Xbox and PS4 offer virtually nothing to their consoles while this one adds just the right amount of something a little better and new.
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Well I guess the NX reveal was just a bait and switch.


Funny. But those leaked concept pics were spot on.
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reenmini wrote:

I cannot imagine that the power consumption or battery capacity for the switch's mobile usage will be good.

It reminds me of the Sega Game Gear. I realize I am comparing today's technology with a 25 year old handheld that was backlit with a flourescent tube...but the feeling is there none-the-less for me.

A bit of a tangent but the technology behind the Game Gear holds up remarkably well. Thanks to modern alkaline batteries it's now possible to get 9 hours one a single charge with a standard Game Gear; which incidentally is more than twice the battery life of the 3DS. Furthermore, a popular modification for the Game Gear is to replace the original screen with a brand new LCD, greatly increasing the energy efficiency and therefore battery life of the device. So, if you're interested in collecting for the Game Gear don't let battery life worry you, that's no longer a problem.

As for the Nintendo Switch - I agree that it will probably have a very short battery life. Nintendo is prone to cheaping out on vital components if they think that they can get away with it. Like with the WiiU's gamepad, that 'controller' had space for a battery twice the size that Nintendo actually included, but Nintendo went with the cheaper option and as a result the WiiU's gamepad has a terrible battery life. I fully expect that Nintendo is stupid enough to make the same mistake again with the Switch, using the cheapest battery they can find regardless of the consequences.
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A bit of a tangent but the technology behind the Game Gear holds up remarkably well. Thanks to modern alkaline batteries it's now possible to get 9 hours one a single charge with a standard Game Gear; which incidentally is more than twice the battery life of the 3DS. Furthermore, a popular modification for the Game Gear is to replace the original screen with a brand new LCD, greatly increasing the energy efficiency and therefore battery life of the device. So, if you're interested in collecting for the Game Gear don't let battery life worry you, that's no longer a problem.

As for the Nintendo Switch - I agree that it will probably have a very short battery life. Nintendo is prone to cheaping out on vital components if they think that they can get away with it. Like with the WiiU's gamepad, that 'controller' had space for a battery twice the size that Nintendo actually included, but Nintendo went with the cheaper option and as a result the WiiU's gamepad has a terrible battery life. I fully expect that Nintendo is stupid enough to make the same mistake again with the Switch, using the cheapest battery they can find regardless of the consequences.


I didn't really mind the gamepad's battery life tbh. It wasn't ideal, but in my opinion they more than made up for it by having the charger actually plug into the wall. Seriously, it boggles my mind why other companies didn't do that sooner.
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Well, I guess it's starting to look like backwards compatibility is officially phased out of the modern industry. Sad.

https://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-switch-not-compatible-with-3ds-nor-wii-u-games-394759.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
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Mobile devices are heavily limited in performance by their form-factor, and that will never change


That's precisely why DEC invented the VAX cluster: because desktop workstations are heavily limited in performance and... wait
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Posted 10/21/16 , edited 10/21/16

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It's obvious there is some hardware in the dock tho. I mean just look at the controller ports.


Of course it has hardware in it, otherwise it wouldn't do anything, lol. However, as far as hardware that is related to gaming performance, it won't do much other than bringing the tablet back to its default speed is what I'm assuming.


octorockandroll wrote:

Well, I guess it's starting to look like backwards compatibility is officially phased out of the modern industry. Sad.

https://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-switch-not-compatible-with-3ds-nor-wii-u-games-394759.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook


God damn it Nintendo. I'll give you a pass for Wii U games since there's no disk tray, but excluding 3DS games?! You moved to cartridge based media, why can't you make 3DS games compatible w/ this thing..? I like that they're wanting to try something new, but damn man. I was really hoping to play my 3DS games on my television, lol.
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octorockandroll wrote:

It's obvious there is some hardware in the dock tho. I mean just look at the controller ports.


Of course it has hardware in it, otherwise it wouldn't do anything, lol. However, as far as hardware that is related to gaming performance, it won't do much other than bringing the tablet back to its default speed is what I'm assuming.


octorockandroll wrote:

Well, I guess it's starting to look like backwards compatibility is officially phased out of the modern industry. Sad.

https://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-switch-not-compatible-with-3ds-nor-wii-u-games-394759.phtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook


God damn it Nintendo. I'll give you a pass for Wii U games since there's no disk tray, but excluding 3DS games?! You moved to cartridge based media, why can't you make 3DS games compatible w/ this thing..? I like that they're wanting to try something new, but damn man. I was really hoping to play my 3DS games on my television, lol.


But... How would they get the 3ds games to work wothout a touchscreen?
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Posted 10/21/16 , edited 10/21/16

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But... How would they get the 3ds games to work wothout a touchscreen?


Well, if it were touch screen, I could think of a couple. Have it where the game itself is on your television and have the whole tablet be your bottom screen like the 3DS. Or if you want to just play on the tablet by itself, flip the tablet vertically and have your top screen be the game and the bottom half be your touch screen. Though since this thing doesn't have touch screen capability, I guess there's no hope.
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Well, i think Switch is going to be better than U. At least, it looks like for now. And they're going to release it in March? Damn!

And what i saw from that trailer, new Mario(?) game in some city-like area? And also, new Mario Kart? That CAN'T be MK8! Why? It didn't have King Boo as playable character nor did they have double items. And Yoshi Circuit appears again? Nice. But i really would like that they would make Double Dash 2. Double Dash was fun... despite some things. Make a sequel, dammit!
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Posted 10/21/16 , edited 10/21/16
I don't like the disposable era of electronics to be honest

looks like a tablet + controllers + docking station

when the batteries died i guess that's it for the system ? unless they use removable AAA batteries..

so this system has a life cycle of 3-4 years?

i thought console life cycle is around 7 years.. with support well into 10+ years.

The snap on controllers look a bit small though.. i don't think you can use it for a long period of time.
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