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To be fair he basically insulted the leaders alot of time and in the bible they sorta are presented as bastards. What was it again, Children of Satan lol?. Although whether the gospels are accurate description or not is another story. You can get lots of antisemitism in the new testament. One example
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16


That's not a valid defense. You were the one who just created a thread about how people who can't laugh at themselves or shrug off insults are stupid, and that not being able to do so is a bad thing, so you know it's not a valid defense.

It's understandable, yes. Because people are fucking dumb and stupid. But it's not a valid defense.


And i agree, but trouble makers and disturbance was more a thing back then. I am glad we dont live in a world where authoritarian rulers decides the shot and have a constitution. Unless you live in North Korea or a middle eastern or eastern european country which may have it.


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can i eat the spaghetti monster
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can i eat the spaghetti monster




"Take, eat: this is my body, which is twined on a fork for for you: this do in remembrance of me."
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can i eat the spaghetti monster




"Take, eat: this is my body, which is twined on a fork for for you: this do in remembrance of me."


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Invalid parallel




(I do like this topic though. I don't have the time or energy for intellectual discussion, but you make good points, and I'm glad you brought them to us.)
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The point of the FSM is that just like any other deity, whether or not it really exists is irrelevant. You can still get people to believe in it. And also the thing about Russel's Teapot that Ananisapta mentioned.

The only reason that no one believes in the FSM is because no one has ever attempted to try to make people actually believe in it. And because the guy who invented the FSM -- unlike the people who invented deities that people actually believe in -- is upfront about its intentions and how it's only a figment of his imagination.

Those are effectively the ONLY differences between the FSM and deities that people actually believe in.



That's not the way the person who actually came up with the FSM idea handled it, and that's not how other people who "follow" that faux religion handle it.

http://www.venganza.org/2016/07/illinois-id-struggle/

...and it's pretty obvious how not a whole lot of people who incessantly refer to FSM in their mocking of various faiths (mostly Christianity because of the person and place where this originated) are actually referring to Russel's Teapot either.

Russel's Teapot is some thing that is used to excuse FSM, and not what FSM is founded upon. All we have to do is examine its history.


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To be fair he basically insulted the leaders alot of time and in the bible they sorta are presented as bastards. What was it again, Children of Satan lol?. Although whether the gospels are accurate description or not is another story. You can get lots of antisemitism in the new testament. One example
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16


What do you mean "let's be fair"... You aren't being fair at all.

Do you know who was doing the talking in that passage? Who and what was he. It doesn't make sense for him in particular to be giving any sort "anti-semitic message". I'm not sure you know what the message was about in the first place. Go find out yourself. Google "Paul the Apostle".
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Deyre wrote:

To be fair he basically insulted the leaders alot of time and in the bible they sorta are presented as bastards. What was it again, Children of Satan lol?. Although whether the gospels are accurate description or not is another story. You can get lots of antisemitism in the new testament. One example
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOtp0kjdjQA


What do you mean "let's be fair"... You aren't being fair at all.

Do you know who was doing the talking in that passage? Who and what was he. It doesn't make sense for him in particular to be giving any sort "anti-semitic message". I'm not sure you know what the message was about in the first place. Go find out yourself. Google "Paul the Apostle".


The jews aka ones who Paul failed to convince on some theological differences, god's wrath is upon them because of this according to Paul?. You may interpret this to say those jews, but some can also say it means jews in general if you look at the context of it of stubborn jews from a theological perspective. Its a reason why Martin Luther wrote against the jews even though he was ok with jews in the beginning, not convinced and temple perspective.

Edit: Either way. Point is its nonsense in general. Be good, make the world a better place. Believe in god and masturbate (I mean dont like depend but just use common sense of love and stuff) and that should be a good thing if one is good to one another.
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Deyre wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:


Deyre wrote:

To be fair he basically insulted the leaders alot of time and in the bible they sorta are presented as bastards. What was it again, Children of Satan lol?. Although whether the gospels are accurate description or not is another story. You can get lots of antisemitism in the new testament. One example
1 Thessalonians 2:14-16

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOtp0kjdjQA


What do you mean "let's be fair"... You aren't being fair at all.

Do you know who was doing the talking in that passage? Who and what was he. It doesn't make sense for him in particular to be giving any sort "anti-semitic message". I'm not sure you know what the message was about in the first place. Go find out yourself. Google "Paul the Apostle".


The jews aka ones who Paul failed to convince on some theological differences, god's wrath is upon them because of this according to Paul?. You may interpret this to say those jews, but some can also say it means jews in general if you look at the context of it of stubborn jews from a theological perspective. Its a reason why Martin Luther wrote against the jews even though he was ok with jews in the beginning, not convinced and temple perspective.

Either way. Point is its nonsense in general. Be good, make the world a better place. Believe in god and masturbate and that should be a good thing if one is good to one another. Well i am me and you are you. Thats how the world should be atleast in my views


No. Let's take this one thing at a time.

Who and what is Paul?
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No. Let's take this one thing at a time.

Who and what is Paul?


This guy

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This guy


Answer with words, please. I assure you it's not what you "pictured".
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Answer with words, please. I assure you it's not what you "pictured".


Paul the Apostle. There is only one paul in the bible???. Paul, persecutor of the church, becomes a Christian and an apostle, martyred in Rome. That guy
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Paul the Apostle. There is only one paul in the bible???. Paul, persecutor of the church, becomes a Christian and an apostle, martyred in Rome. That guy


Yes, but there is far more to a person than what the person does. What was he, before all that you've described?
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nanikore2 wrote:


Deyre wrote:

Paul the Apostle. There is only one paul in the bible???. Paul, persecutor of the church, becomes a Christian and an apostle, martyred in Rome. That guy


Yes, but there is far more to a person than what the person does. What was he, before all that you've described?


btw i heard Paul people who dislike Paul saying he was from the tribe of benjamin, and since Jesus says beware of false prophets, they come like ravaging wolves (Because tribe of benjamin have an emblem of a wolf "sort of like illuminati joke or something :3 ". Which is funny because Jesus is from the tribe of judah i think or Lion of Judah, not 100% sure. Anyways the kingdom of judah was the one who was south when it split Israel in 2 after King Solomon. 11 tribes i think joined "Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) in the north which had just bad corrupt kings, kingdom of judah in the south had only one tribe that supported it called tribe of benjamin, Kingdom of Judah having some righteous kings but not all, so i do find it funny how anti paul people forget about that XD

Either way. Paul was Paul : 3. I like the name Paul
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