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At the same time, I genuinely hope he DOES pull it off.

And I have NO doubt that he's completely honest and pure-hearted in his intentions to be a President (Which I can say is quite the opposite with Hillary.). Either that, or he somehow predicted exactly how the American people would feel now, years and years ago when he was still a young man, and used that foresight to set up his political career that only came to fruition over 30 years later. Don't believe me? Watch this, or just the first couple minutes, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM.


I don't know. Trump is the gambit candidate. I think in the short term, mucking up the government will cause a lot of problems for everybody and put us in a significantly worse situation. Then we need to rely on someone else coming in and fixing it. Its like, we are running a gambit where we send out our queen to die with the hopes of setting a trap to get the opponents king, but the gambit isn't a guarantee. We could very well lose our queen and get nothing but a pawn in trade. I certainly don't have the faith in Trump as a policymaker to assume that he will be able to rebuild into something better than what we have and I am not willing to drop a blind bet that somewhere down the line, someone else will be able to clean up his "mess" in a way that doesn't put us right back where we started (sans queen).



We're at a point where the only thing worse is martial law, another great depression, and war. We already know Hillary is leaning towards war. Don't believe me, go look it up.

So, Trumps a gambit, but Hillary is a guaranteed continuation of our current fucking.

So fuck it.


I couldn't disagree more. There are still miles to go before we hit the bottom of the barrel. We aren't anywhere near fucked.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


sundin13 wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:

At the same time, I genuinely hope he DOES pull it off.

And I have NO doubt that he's completely honest and pure-hearted in his intentions to be a President (Which I can say is quite the opposite with Hillary.). Either that, or he somehow predicted exactly how the American people would feel now, years and years ago when he was still a young man, and used that foresight to set up his political career that only came to fruition over 30 years later. Don't believe me? Watch this, or just the first couple minutes, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM.


I don't know. Trump is the gambit candidate. I think in the short term, mucking up the government will cause a lot of problems for everybody and put us in a significantly worse situation. Then we need to rely on someone else coming in and fixing it. Its like, we are running a gambit where we send out our queen to die with the hopes of setting a trap to get the opponents king, but the gambit isn't a guarantee. We could very well lose our queen and get nothing but a pawn in trade. I certainly don't have the faith in Trump as a policymaker to assume that he will be able to rebuild into something better than what we have and I am not willing to drop a blind bet that somewhere down the line, someone else will be able to clean up his "mess" in a way that doesn't put us right back where we started (sans queen).



We're at a point where the only thing worse is martial law, another great depression, and war. We already know Hillary is leaning towards war. Don't believe me, go look it up.

So, Trumps a gambit, but Hillary is a guaranteed continuation of our current fucking.

So fuck it.


And to expand on this.... our economy is already complete shit and we've been at war for FIFTEEN YEARS. Between Trump and Hillary, Hillary is most likely to instate martial law, not that I think it would happen with either.... but still.
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I couldn't disagree more. There are still miles to go before we hit the bottom of the barrel. We aren't anywhere near fucked.


As someone who lived through the 90s and have been to eight other nations, plus all the alternate media I watch, literally pulled from foreign sources....

You have no idea how fucked we are. You were what-- 7ish during 911? This bullshit is quite literally all you've ever experienced.

And, my point isn't that it can't get worse, but that the chances of it getting worse are about the same with both, but the chance of it getting better is nonexistent with Hillary. It is literally like hearing Obama's 08 speeches ran through a thesaurus and slightly reorganized. With UNITY being the theme instead of CHANGE.

Bottom line, we're seeing controlled opposition with the two party system and we can either HOPE by some miracle SOMEONE unfucks it.... or we can keep voting for politicians.

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pst............ dude ..... why don't u save you political rants for somewhere else, that isn't a place for people to chillax and meet new people

yoyoyoyo did u know trump was apparently a democrat his whole life until recently
I have yet to see if that info actually checks out but it'd be pretty interesting if he was
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pst............ dude ..... why don't u save you political rants for somewhere else, that isn't a place for people to chillax and meet new people

yoyoyoyo did u know trump was apparently a democrat his whole life until recently
I have yet to see if that info actually checks out but it'd be pretty interesting if he was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

It isn't.
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Now, if you are speaking more metaphorically, meaning he was going to bomb the corruption that is the government....


I was speaking metaphorically. Russia is a whole other bag of worms though and I really wish people would stop talking like Russia is innocent in all this and the US is the aggressor somehow. Instead of you know the whole invading Crimea, propping up Assad, trying to interfere in the election process of a foreign country, etc.



HolyDrumstick wrote:Yeah, some of his proposals will take a lot of work to pull off. However, at least he is tackling head on the corruption. OR, at the very least calling it out for what it is.

Fuck, I mean, I don't like either one of them, but I KNOW I'm getting more of the same with Hillary. So, I mean, If Hillary is talking war, Trump is talking peace, and only one of them has any suggestions that even have the potential to improve our situation with policy....


Trump will say whatever gets Trump the most attention. Its the one consistent strategy he's exhibited this entire election cycle. As for talking peace? The man has on numerous occasions so far publicly advocated war crimes. Nevermind that he is pathologically incapable of letting even the slightest bit of criticism go. What good would sending a notoriously thin skinned man child that lashes out at everyone that doesn't kneel before him do for talking peace?

As for what little actual policy Trump has put forth: You really think its a good idea to pull shit like "We can't make a new regulation unless we repeal two old ones"?


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Also, both are rich assholes. But, at least I know Trump made his money, and could continue making more money, outside of politics.


Trump was born a rich asshole to rich assholes and has made a living essentially being the stereotypical rich asshole for decades. He is mired in just as much if not more corruption than the people in the "swamp" he wants to drain. As for making money outside of politics, I don't know about that. His campaign is damaging his businesses and will likely continue to do so as he won't be able to stop himself from yelling in front of cameras for the foreseeable future. I can't help but wonder if Ivanka is starting to get nervous about her inheritance.

Plus he routinely inflates his net worth because living in a gilded gold penthouse and talking about how rich he is all the time wasn't enough.

As for Clinton, she does have a law degree as you may recall and had a career long before she entered politics. She also didn't get a small loan of several million dollars from daddy to set out with. Clinton made her money as well ( and her money is a fraction of what Trump claims his money is ). She's also the only one of the two that fully acknowledged and addressed that her current wealth puts her at risk of losing touch with the average American.



HolyDrumstick wrote:And, anyone who says Hillary didn't commit crimes is in denial.


At this point she is literally the most vetted candidate to ever run for office in the United States. So there's plenty of denial to go around. The Republicans straight up admitted Benghazi was just to damage her poll numbers.

The two possibilities are A) There is a massive, far reaching, multi-year government conspiracy at all levels of government across multiple administrations to elect Hillary president on her second try or 90% of this shit is political theater designed not to actually find anything but to maintain the illusion that there is something to find.

Which do you think is more likely? Again, keep in mind that the Republicans flat out admitted what they were doing.

If Hillary had even half the power being ascribed to her by her opponents she would already be Empress of the Imperial States of America and Canada would be the 51st state. Instead of making her second attempt at the White House.

Is she squeaky clean? Fark no. But she's not the second coming of Al Capone sitting at the helm of the Illuminati either.



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But, I feel like he can't fuck up the situation worse than it is, especially if he's headed in the opposite direction, and I know for fact that I'm only about to be penetrated deeper if Hillary get's elected.... so screw it.


Oh he can most definitely fuck up the situation worse. I mean he just fucked up a charity fund raising dinner for children. Don't underestimate him. >.>



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Basically what I'm saying is: Get your facts straight. Trump sucks, but if you think Hillary doesn't, you are believing propaganda and not reality.


First of all, I don't recall saying anywhere that Hillary is amazing to begin with. Second of all, physician heal thyself.


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Now, if you are speaking more metaphorically, meaning he was going to bomb the corruption that is the government....


I was speaking metaphorically. Russia is a whole other bag of worms though and I really wish people would stop talking like Russia is innocent in all this and the US is the aggressor somehow. Instead of you know the whole invading Crimea, propping up Assad, trying to interfere in the election process of a foreign country, etc.



HolyDrumstick wrote:Yeah, some of his proposals will take a lot of work to pull off. However, at least he is tackling head on the corruption. OR, at the very least calling it out for what it is.

Fuck, I mean, I don't like either one of them, but I KNOW I'm getting more of the same with Hillary. So, I mean, If Hillary is talking war, Trump is talking peace, and only one of them has any suggestions that even have the potential to improve our situation with policy....


Trump will say whatever gets Trump the most attention. Its the one consistent strategy he's exhibited this entire election cycle. As for talking peace? The man has on numerous occasions so far publicly advocated war crimes. Nevermind that he is pathologically incapable of letting even the slightest bit of criticism go. What good would sending a notoriously thin skinned man child that lashes out at everyone that doesn't kneel before him do for talking peace?

As for what little actual policy Trump has put forth: You really think its a good idea to pull shit like "We can't make a new regulation unless we repeal two old ones"?


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Also, both are rich assholes. But, at least I know Trump made his money, and could continue making more money, outside of politics.


Trump was born a rich asshole to rich assholes and has made a living essentially being the stereotypical rich asshole for decades. He is mired in just as much if not more corruption than the people in the "swamp" he wants to drain. As for making money outside of politics, I don't know about that. His campaign is damaging his businesses and will likely continue to do so as he won't be able to stop himself from yelling in front of cameras for the foreseeable future. I can't help but wonder if Ivanka is starting to get nervous about her inheritance.

Plus he routinely inflates his net worth because living in a gilded gold penthouse and talking about how rich he is all the time wasn't enough.

As for Clinton, she does have a law degree as you may recall and had a career long before she entered politics. She also didn't get a small loan of several million dollars from daddy to set out with. Clinton made her money as well ( and her money is a fraction of what Trump claims his money is ). She's also the only one of the two that fully acknowledged and addressed that her current wealth puts her at risk of losing touch with the average American.



HolyDrumstick wrote:And, anyone who says Hillary didn't commit crimes is in denial.


At this point she is literally the most vetted candidate to ever run for office in the United States. So there's plenty of denial to go around. The Republicans straight up admitted Benghazi was just to damage her poll numbers.

The two possibilities are A) There is a massive, far reaching, multi-year government conspiracy at all levels of government across multiple administrations to elect Hillary president on her second try or 90% of this shit is political theater designed not to actually find anything but to maintain the illusion that there is something to find.

Which do you think is more likely? Again, keep in mind that the Republicans flat out admitted what they were doing.

If Hillary had even half the power being ascribed to her by her opponents she would already be Empress of the Imperial States of America and Canada would be the 51st state. Instead of making her second attempt at the White House.

Is she squeaky clean? Fark no. But she's not the second coming of Al Capone sitting at the helm of the Illuminati either.



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But, I feel like he can't fuck up the situation worse than it is, especially if he's headed in the opposite direction, and I know for fact that I'm only about to be penetrated deeper if Hillary get's elected.... so screw it.


Oh he can most definitely fuck up the situation worse. I mean he just fucked up a charity fund raising dinner for children. Don't underestimate him. >.>



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Basically what I'm saying is: Get your facts straight. Trump sucks, but if you think Hillary doesn't, you are believing propaganda and not reality.


First of all, I don't recall saying anywhere that Hillary is amazing to begin with. Second of all, physician heal thyself.




Lol. He'll say whatever it takes? I mean, true for most politicians, except Trump is saying the same thing he has been saying since the 80s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

Trump IS a rich asshole. But he made that doing things we expect from rich assholes. Hillary and Bill Clinton made their money by screwing over the people they swore to serve. Making money from an upfront business is much different than making money through siphoning during your terms to SERVE the people.

Also, I refer you again to the video.

I don't think either of them are worth a fuck. BUT, again, having Hillary means you can give the fuck up on any improvement in the next 8 years.
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And yet, it seems like pretty much everyone in the country wants those other guys to be term limited, otherwise, why do all these people who want term limits keep returning the same people to D.C.
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sundin13 wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:

At the same time, I genuinely hope he DOES pull it off.

And I have NO doubt that he's completely honest and pure-hearted in his intentions to be a President (Which I can say is quite the opposite with Hillary.). Either that, or he somehow predicted exactly how the American people would feel now, years and years ago when he was still a young man, and used that foresight to set up his political career that only came to fruition over 30 years later. Don't believe me? Watch this, or just the first couple minutes, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM.


I don't know. Trump is the gambit candidate. I think in the short term, mucking up the government will cause a lot of problems for everybody and put us in a significantly worse situation. Then we need to rely on someone else coming in and fixing it. Its like, we are running a gambit where we send out our queen to die with the hopes of setting a trap to get the opponents king, but the gambit isn't a guarantee. We could very well lose our queen and get nothing but a pawn in trade. I certainly don't have the faith in Trump as a policymaker to assume that he will be able to rebuild into something better than what we have and I am not willing to drop a blind bet that somewhere down the line, someone else will be able to clean up his "mess" in a way that doesn't put us right back where we started (sans queen).



All Trump has to do to be a good president is:
#1) Not start WW3 with Russia over Syria
#2) Reinvest in our country's infrastructure
#3) Follow the core principals of the constitution.
#4) Let the FBI and the justice departments investigate all the fraud taking place (AKA let them do their job)
#5) (optional) I'd like to see him renegotiate our trade deals and tariffs because they really are shit

I'm not looking for a miracle worker I just want someone that focuses on the basics of running a country. Lately we have gotten presidents that focus on everything BUT our own country. I was hoping Obama would follow through with his justice reform but nope.... He's too busy campaigning for Hillary =/
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And yet, it seems like pretty much everyone in the country wants those other guys to be term limited, otherwise, why do all these people who want term limits keep returning the same people to D.C.


That's because, the guys returning to D.C. are familiar faces who have worked hard for their political donations from the big corporations. The news media, across most of the United States, is owned by a small handful of corporates, and media moguls, who control how the news is reported, so that they can control how Americans feel and decide on who to vote.

That's what's happening with Donald V.S. Hillary. It's why, despite all of her dangerous activity as Secretary of State, which has caused the world to become so destabilized, and that is pushing us closer to War with Russia.... The media hasn't been reporting on that. Instead, it focuses on reporting on Trump's gaffs. They are really campaigning for Clinton....

Anyway, in a much more subtle manner, that's how the same guys end up going to D.C.

Term limits will end a LOT of the control that corporations have on government, because they will not have enough time to build the relationships needed to gradually corrupt the politicians...
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sundin13 wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:

At the same time, I genuinely hope he DOES pull it off.

And I have NO doubt that he's completely honest and pure-hearted in his intentions to be a President (Which I can say is quite the opposite with Hillary.). Either that, or he somehow predicted exactly how the American people would feel now, years and years ago when he was still a young man, and used that foresight to set up his political career that only came to fruition over 30 years later. Don't believe me? Watch this, or just the first couple minutes, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM.


I don't know. Trump is the gambit candidate. I think in the short term, mucking up the government will cause a lot of problems for everybody and put us in a significantly worse situation. Then we need to rely on someone else coming in and fixing it. Its like, we are running a gambit where we send out our queen to die with the hopes of setting a trap to get the opponents king, but the gambit isn't a guarantee. We could very well lose our queen and get nothing but a pawn in trade. I certainly don't have the faith in Trump as a policymaker to assume that he will be able to rebuild into something better than what we have and I am not willing to drop a blind bet that somewhere down the line, someone else will be able to clean up his "mess" in a way that doesn't put us right back where we started (sans queen).



All Trump has to do to be a good president is:
#1) Not start WW3 with Russia over Syria
#2) Reinvest in our country's infrastructure
#3) Follow the core principals of the constitution.
#4) Let the FBI and the justice departments investigate all the fraud taking place (AKA let them do their job)
#5) (optional) I'd like to see him renegotiate our trade deals and tariffs because they really are shit

I'm not looking for a miracle worker I just want someone that focuses on the basics of running a country. Lately we have gotten presidents that focus on everything BUT our own country. I was hoping Obama would follow through with his justice reform but nope.... He's too busy campaigning for Hillary =/


And too busy building a one world government, continuing George Bush Sr.'s "New World Order." Which Bush Jr. furthered by laying the foundations for a Police State with Patriot Act and Department of Homeland Security. Which Obama promised to repeal, but instead strengthened and increased its reach. Which Hillary will also further enhance - if she gets in the White House.

Trump's speech shows that he will not participate in that program. He's really gonna piss off a whole ton of people, if he doesn't continue with that program...
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HolyDrumstick wrote:
Now, if you are speaking more metaphorically, meaning he was going to bomb the corruption that is the government....


I was speaking metaphorically. Russia is a whole other bag of worms though and I really wish people would stop talking like Russia is innocent in all this and the US is the aggressor somehow. Instead of you know the whole invading Crimea, propping up Assad, trying to interfere in the election process of a foreign country, etc.

You just cant make on honest assessment of a situation, can you? Oh wait, that's right. CNN Filter. Forgot.

Parroting the lie that Russia invaded Crimea....no they did not, they've had the base in Stevasopol this side of FOREVER and Crimea overwhelmingly voted to leave and join Russia - but of course "the west" has no interest in letting Russia keep its only Black Sea port.

Propping up Assad. I love it. How about you describe it like this, which is also accurate: The democratically elected leader of another sovereign nation - one that we have invaded, are there without their permission - whereas the Russians WERE INVITED THERE.

Oh, and that whole messing with the election thing? Yeah nevermind that's been disproven already.


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Only two intelligence entities – the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) – have weighed in on this issue, not 17 intelligence agencies [as Hillary Clinton had claimed]. And what they said was ambiguous about Russian involvement. An unclassified October 7, 2016 joint DNI-DHS statement on this issue said the hacks


“. . . are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow — the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europa and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.”

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Saying we think the hacks “are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts” is far short of saying we have evidence that Russia has been responsible for the hacks. Maybe high-level officials would have authorized them if Russian hackers were responsible, but the DNI and DHS statement did NOT say there was evidence Russia was responsible.
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We asked Binney:

What if the intelligence community spokespeople say “we can’t reveal the evidence we have that the Russians did it, because that would reveal our sources and methods?”

He responded:

If you recall, a few years ago they pointed to a specific building in China that was where hacks on the US were originating. So, let’s see the same from the Russians. They don’t have it. That’s why they don’t show it. They want to swindle us again and again and again. You can not trust these intelligence agencies period.
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but as usual, dont let facts get in the way of your perfectly formed opinion that CNN gave you?





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Also, both are rich assholes. But, at least I know Trump made his money, and could continue making more money, outside of politics.


Trump was born a rich asshole to rich assholes and has made a living essentially being the stereotypical rich asshole for decades. He is mired in just as much if not more corruption than the people in the "swamp" he wants to drain. As for making money outside of politics, I don't know about that. His campaign is damaging his businesses and will likely continue to do so as he won't be able to stop himself from yelling in front of cameras for the foreseeable future. I can't help but wonder if Ivanka is starting to get nervous about her inheritance.

Plus he routinely inflates his net worth because living in a gilded gold penthouse and talking about how rich he is all the time wasn't enough.

As for Clinton, she does have a law degree as you may recall and had a career long before she entered politics. She also didn't get a small loan of several million dollars from daddy to set out with. Clinton made her money as well ( and her money is a fraction of what Trump claims his money is ). She's also the only one of the two that fully acknowledged and addressed that her current wealth puts her at risk of losing touch with the average American.

How exectly does one legally grow his fortune from a mil to a few hundred mil by "sitting around being a rich asshole?" As usual, what you're typing makes just about zero sense.

He is mired in...what CNN wants to put in your head

Wow you admitted you dont know about something? Why dont you go tune in to CNN so they can inform you on the matter.

His campaign is damaging his business....hahahaha....son, go make me some popcorn if you're going to put up a work of fiction on the screen, k?



As for Clinton, you'll of course neglect to mention that she had her law degree taken from her, but of course since CNN backs up the story of "oh I didnt need it so I just didnt renew it" horseshit, that's all you need to hear, your opinion has been downloaded.





HolyDrumstick wrote:And, anyone who says Hillary didn't commit crimes is in denial.


At this point she is literally the most vetted candidate to ever run for office in the United States. So there's plenty of denial to go around. The Republicans straight up admitted Benghazi was just to damage her poll numbers.

The two possibilities are A) There is a massive, far reaching, multi-year government conspiracy at all levels of government across multiple administrations to elect Hillary president on her second try or 90% of this shit is political theater designed not to actually find anything but to maintain the illusion that there is something to find.

Which do you think is more likely? Again, keep in mind that the Republicans flat out admitted what they were doing.

If Hillary had even half the power being ascribed to her by her opponents she would already be Empress of the Imperial States of America and Canada would be the 51st state. Instead of making her second attempt at the White House.

Is she squeaky clean? Fark no. But she's not the second coming of Al Capone sitting at the helm of the Illuminati either.

lol are you seriously trying to diminish what Benghazi was? Most vetted? hang on a sec LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO WTF?!?!?!

No, nothing wrong with taking the guns you helped destabilize one country with, and ship them off to another country, via one of your allies as an intermediary, so that those same weapons can now be used to go destabilize ANOTHER country.

If Hillary had the power....no, she doesnt have such power. What she does have is the entire MSM carrying water for her, she has the intelligence agencies covering THEIR OWN asses which happens to coincide with covering her ass at times.

I will be so entertained once they finally release the bill clinton pedo videos so you can sit there and try to deny it, then move on to denying its got anything to do with hillary being president, then try to deny its true purpose for that of blackmail, and then further deny that the clintons have done little except undermine the waning integrity of this nation.





Now here.....go read about how the digital signatures are intact on all those emails = LEGITIMATE

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-24/we-can-prove-podesta-emails-released-wikileaks-are-authentic-heres-how

When are you going to admit she belongs in jail?
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Trump even said that a thin aluminum wing has a snowball's chance in hell at leaving a wiley coyote imprint in the side of a steel framed skyscraper.

+he knows the federal reserve is an unconstitutional trojan horse


no wonder the globalists hate him, lol
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