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Posted 10/25/16 , edited 10/25/16
But will it get me good pills?
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Well that's just stupid. Not being with someone is soemthing that can change at a mere moments notice, so being labeled something based on not being with someone at the moment is just down right stupid
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Just politics, not science.



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Hope they do this in Australia, then i can quit my job and go on disabilty and get paid $400 an week. Ok so that's shit money compared to having a job, but still....
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What the fuck , why people just why
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Single men and women without medical issues will be classed as “infertile” if they do not have children but want to become a parent, the World Health Organisation is to announce.


Title is misleading. The linked article is misleading. The article it links to doesn't say what the topic says at all.

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Sounds like they just want to sell you babies. I don't think it should be allowed unless you have a specific donor, who can't donate sperm/eggs to another partner. There's a risk of limiting the gene pool if you allow everyone to just use the same donors.
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MrAnimeSK wrote:

Hope they do this in Australia, then i can quit my job and go on disabilty and get paid $400 an week. Ok so that's shit money compared to having a job, but still....


I have a disability and only get $500 a fortnight (which requires me to study and do government activities).

Disability pension isn't that good >.<
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Ah well 2cents as a person with disabilities- this article is poor and skips over some very important things related to the topic to be clickbait.

This sort of article/topic can't be introduced in the way they did it without creating unnecessary visceral reactions from people... its a lot to throw barely any knowledge into the intersection of reproductive rights, restrictions, insurance issues, the different between the WHO (non-US organization) conflating with the ADA (US law) and what the varied legal and social definitions of disability are. It also fails to address the WHO's actual role in health systems: the NHS is not required to take any of their suggestions.

What you want to compare is the WHO's definition of disability to this particular condition or group of conditions- Not the WHO to ADA.

For example: needing glasses is also a disability by their definition. (For that matter though, it is in the ADA, but you want to look for their definition).

If you look at it similar to the ADA does and how WHO determines actually determines disability, yes it makes sense by their definition to call infertility one- being single, no: not quite- that's a slippery slope statement thrown into the mix. Saying infertility is a disability and that being single should not be a restriction on treatment and aid for a disability is no the same as saying "being single is a disability." It can be a contributing factor, or a factor that occurs because of infertility. So there is some cross over.

The perspective of fair access to fertility treatments regardless of your relationship status makes sense from their view point as does considering infertility a disability.

For the record with disability law and benefits- the definition matters.

There is no one universal definition of disability.

Because of the nature of disabilities and impairments it doesn't make sense for there to be one. ADA is not overly specific because many limitations are situational or temporary, for example if there's a dress code at a business that says "no glasses" and you need glasses for a reason- you are legally expected to be accommodated in that way unless it presents a danger.


So as a general rule- look at the definition first for what you are reading before you get mad. ADA doesn't give people access to SSI/SSDI in the US. It gives people with learning disabilities access to quiet rooms to take tests and people with wheelchairs access to ramps to get into a courthouse or business with more then 15 employees (examples). For more employment specific examples of things the ADA may apply to- look at the JAN (job accommodation network)'s website.

SSA (social security administration- for the US) is the body that determines SSI/SSDI (US disability benefits-payments) benefit awards. "Awards" which are monthly checks typically and access to medical insurance and other programs are determined by medical record review, testimony, test results, doctor opinion, and judges via SSA's stringent and lengthy review process. It takes between 1-3 years for the majority of people to be awarded this if they legitimately qualify from the beginning, and meeting the criteria is very difficult.

The restrictions to qualify for SSI are especially strict- it isn't just a medical decision, but it demands financial qualification through certain need. The payments for SSI are around the equivalent of the poverty line at the end of the year, and that is if one is awarded 100% of the max benefit amount (between 700-850 per month the last decade between the national award and state supplemental).

Most people do not get awarded the max amount. Living with your parents for example will cut your award by approximately 50% of the max benefit. Gifts count as income or support and reduce your benefits as well. There's restrictions on how long you are allowed to hold onto the benefits without using them or they count against you. Many restrictions, worth mentioning- but if you're able to work- working is much more worth your time.
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Kind of an odd way of going about giving single people access to IVF.
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LavenderMintRose wrote:


Single men and women without medical issues will be classed as “infertile” if they do not have children but want to become a parent, the World Health Organisation is to announce.


Title is misleading. The linked article is misleading. The article it links to doesn't say what the topic says at all.



Bump.

It's still weird, it's not like you need to exaggerate it to make it look as such OP.
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Ryulightorb wrote:


MrAnimeSK wrote:

Hope they do this in Australia, then i can quit my job and go on disabilty and get paid $400 an week. Ok so that's shit money compared to having a job, but still....


I have a disability and only get $500 a fortnight (which requires me to study and do government activities).

Disability pension isn't that good >.<


Yeah, where is this mystical place where my disability pension could be $400 a week?

My disability pension is "Well, at least you're not technically homeless.".

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runec wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


MrAnimeSK wrote:

Hope they do this in Australia, then i can quit my job and go on disabilty and get paid $400 an week. Ok so that's shit money compared to having a job, but still....


I have a disability and only get $500 a fortnight (which requires me to study and do government activities).

Disability pension isn't that good >.<


Yeah, where is this mystical place where my disability pension could be $400 a week?

My disability pension is "Well, at least you're not technically homeless.".



I mean... you have internet and a premium crunchyroll account, so it can't be that bad, right?
Posted 10/25/16 , edited 10/25/16
Oh cool. Now I can maybe get benefits for it. And really, I'm not feeding the broken system of relationships out there. People aren't getting along very well. Marriage is a joke if you're a man and why in the hell would any smart man opt in on marriage today? That's like taking a very stressful second job that pays nothing and you are treated like a beast of burden. They can call being single a disability all they want, but I don't feel any less able. I am more alive than I would be dealing with some bratty woman's bullshit.
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