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Hope they do this in Australia, then i can quit my job and go on disabilty and get paid $400 an week. Ok so that's shit money compared to having a job, but still....


I have a disability and only get $500 a fortnight (which requires me to study and do government activities).

Disability pension isn't that good >.<


I get about 700, my rent is 450 and that's only cuz this apartment building is family owned, everywhere else rent would be 1k+ :C
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Ah well 2cents as a person with disabilities- this article is poor and skips over some very important things related to the topic to be clickbait.

This sort of article/topic can't be introduced in the way they did it without creating unnecessary visceral reactions from people... its a lot to throw barely any knowledge into the intersection of reproductive rights, restrictions, insurance issues, the different between the WHO (non-US organization) conflating with the ADA (US law) and what the varied legal and social definitions of disability are. It also fails to address the WHO's actual role in health systems: the NHS is not required to take any of their suggestions.

What you want to compare is the WHO's definition of disability to this particular condition or group of conditions- Not the WHO to ADA.

For example: needing glasses is also a disability by their definition. (For that matter though, it is in the ADA, but you want to look for their definition).

If you look at it similar to the ADA does and how WHO determines actually determines disability, yes it makes sense by their definition to call infertility one- being single, no: not quite- that's a slippery slope statement thrown into the mix. Saying infertility is a disability and that being single should not be a restriction on treatment and aid for a disability is no the same as saying "being single is a disability." It can be a contributing factor, or a factor that occurs because of infertility. So there is some cross over.

The perspective of fair access to fertility treatments regardless of your relationship status makes sense from their view point as does considering infertility a disability.

For the record with disability law and benefits- the definition matters.

There is no one universal definition of disability.

Because of the nature of disabilities and impairments it doesn't make sense for there to be one. ADA is not overly specific because many limitations are situational or temporary, for example if there's a dress code at a business that says "no glasses" and you need glasses for a reason- you are legally expected to be accommodated in that way unless it presents a danger.


So as a general rule- look at the definition first for what you are reading before you get mad. ADA doesn't give people access to SSI/SSDI in the US. It gives people with learning disabilities access to quiet rooms to take tests and people with wheelchairs access to ramps to get into a courthouse or business with more then 15 employees (examples). For more employment specific examples of things the ADA may apply to- look at the JAN (job accommodation network)'s website.

SSA (social security administration- for the US) is the body that determines SSI/SSDI (US disability benefits-payments) benefit awards. "Awards" which are monthly checks typically and access to medical insurance and other programs are determined by medical record review, testimony, test results, doctor opinion, and judges via SSA's stringent and lengthy review process. It takes between 1-3 years for the majority of people to be awarded this if they legitimately qualify from the beginning, and meeting the criteria is very difficult.

The restrictions to qualify for SSI are especially strict- it isn't just a medical decision, but it demands financial qualification through certain need. The payments for SSI are around the equivalent of the poverty line at the end of the year, and that is if one is awarded 100% of the max benefit amount (between 700-850 per month the last decade between the national award and state supplemental).

Most people do not get awarded the max amount. Living with your parents for example will cut your award by approximately 50% of the max benefit. Gifts count as income or support and reduce your benefits as well. There's restrictions on how long you are allowed to hold onto the benefits without using them or they count against you. Many restrictions, worth mentioning- but if you're able to work- working is much more worth your time.


yea I get 700, it took almost 2 years after I turned 18 to qualify, I was considered disabled at birth but I had to get re qualified as an adult which was a pain in the fucking ass
I live with my mom who is wheelchair bound and way worse off, she is lucky to even be alive honestly

if I was to get a job at some point, which would be a at home job, I could only earn 600, which would help so so so much but in the long run it isn't a lot total, I need my disability for insurance too so I would lose that if I earned a penny over


my mother and I are considered 150 percent below poverty, still don't qualify for food stamps
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The title of that article is pretty misleading.
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well i if can get money for it i'm calling it a disability
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I think this is retarded, i've been single my whole life. why didn't i get money.
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Posted 10/25/16 , edited 10/25/16

kiri97 wrote:

I think this is retarded, i've been single my whole life. why didn't i get money.


The title is misleading. This classification in reality means that people who are single and looking to produce children but can't because they are... you know, single, are recognized as technically being infertile.
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kiri97 wrote:

I think this is retarded, i've been single my whole life. why didn't i get money.


The title is misleading. This classification in reality means that people who are single and looking to produce children but can't because they are... you know, single, are recognized as technically being infertile.



Man that sucks, and yes i did kinda knew what the passage was saying, i was just joking about it.

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octorockandroll wrote:
I mean... you have internet and a premium crunchyroll account, so it can't be that bad, right?


Internet and a Cruchyroll account. The basic tenets of survival?
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Posted 10/25/16 , edited 10/25/16

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octorockandroll wrote:
I mean... you have internet and a premium crunchyroll account, so it can't be that bad, right?


Internet and a Cruchyroll account. The basic tenets of survival?


I was just saying that if you can afford those two you can probably afford to live decently enough, right?
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Sweet! Let's celebrate with a short song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R12wIYc00UI
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octorockandroll wrote:
I was just saying that if you can afford those two you can probably afford to live decently enough, right?


I have to rely on family and the occasional odd job I can do with my health in order to stay above water. Given that I'm largely house bound an internet connection is honestly pretty vital to clinging to what's left of my mental health. So its not really what I can call a luxury. Medical expenses finished off what was left of my life savings about a year ago.

You can survive on a disability pension. I'm not sure I'd say you could live on one though.
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People not having kids isn't good for the government tax $. Such a line of thinking is nothing more than an agenda.
If anything, we should be rejoicing in declining birthrates due to overpopulation. Now if we could only change our economic system to not be dependent on a pyramid scheme or greater and greater of numbers of workers needed each generation to keep societies from collapsing and we'd all be better off.

After reading the article "an individual's right to reproduce without a partner?" Who the heck writes these things, last time I checked it takes two to have a child, not to mention why do we need more people to have biological children when there are millions upon millions of children that need to be adopted?

I want to have biological children, but if at some point I still haven't found somebody to marry I'd definitely consider adoption before going for some sort of surrogacy method they are trying to promote, but that's just my two cents.
Posted 10/25/16
Correction: Being single is now labeled a disability.
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Posted 10/25/16 , edited 10/25/16
Seems like the new agenda is to label everyone with disability whether or not it is actually warranted. All this does is disregards the real hardships and sacrifices those with real mental and physical disabilities face in their lives, by saying that you understand what they are going through because you now have a made-up meaningless condition, which is somehow equivalent.....
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Although I will agree that's strange that they classify it as an actual disorder, but brain chemistry definitely changes significantly when not in a relationship, at least one that the person actually cares to be in, anyway.
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