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..Can you damn Yanks just get it over with already. I am not even a citizen of your gone to hell country and I hear more about this damn shit then I do about my own political leaders. If you're going to elect a man who will start World War 3 or a incompetent bitch just fucking do it already.


Hey! Hillary's the one itching to go to War with Russia! And I was wondering when you Brits were gonna shut up about Brexit! So, put up with it. When the election is over, so will be the Trump vs Hillary threads (maybe).
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no-one said Trump's campaign didn't do it.
just because a person doesn't support Hillary, doesn't mean they support Trump.


Actually, some have indeed said that. Some of our resident conspiracy critters have Trump elevated beyond reproach.


Nope. I for one just get tired of watching you guys treat Trump as a madman and Hillary like saint.

It's literally the same bullshit in every thread:
Hillary's emails!!! *rawr* - Which is actually a thing. She committed crimes.
Trump's a looney! Look at all these comments and weird things he says! *rawr* - Which is a thing, but has very little to do with his qualifications.

It's like watching people vote on who should be president, Red Skull or Darkseid (I'll let you figure out who's who). Then, if anyone points out when you're just being a jackass instead of actually accepting how fucking stupid voting for YOUR candidate is, too.... you get your panties in a twist and claim they're crazies who support the other side.

It's so damned stupid. It's so bad, if Justin Bieber had any chance in this election, he'd be my vote. I swear, it's THAT stupid.
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..Can you damn Yanks just get it over with already. I am not even a citizen of your gone to hell country and I hear more about this damn shit then I do about my own political leaders. If you're going to elect a man who will start World War 3 or a incompetent bitch just fucking do it already.


DeadlyOats is right. Putin himself said he hoped Hillary's talk of aggression was just posturing for votes, and would die down after the election. He said that as it stands, Trump is looking favorable for peace between Russia and the US.
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At the risk of sounding naive, I'm going to risk saying this. While I know that Trump is no boyscout, I'm sure he's done bad things as a businessman in his life, I have to kind of think that he hasn't tampered with the vote, nor broke any campaign laws or rules.

Why you ask me? I'm glad you asked!

I think it's because he wouldn't be able to hide it if he did. He has NO support from the GOP, they've left him high and dry. They aren't helping him one bit. Sure there are Republicans who have gone on a limb to support him, Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich, a bunch of others, but more from the sidelines, and not so loudly as to alienate the GOP.

Thus Trump is left with only his campaign, mostly his own money, and that's it. The media is so one-sidedly and quite slantedly "reporting (campaigning) against Trump," that you've got to know that if they found anything even remotely suspicious, they would have been all over that - while further burying the latest reports of Hillary's corruption.

But they haven't. All the media has reported on, has been Trump's critical complaints against the media, and stuff that he's said that was most un-PC-like.


I tend to agree with that.
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Ranwolf wrote:

..Can you damn Yanks just get it over with already. I am not even a citizen of your gone to hell country and I hear more about this damn shit then I do about my own political leaders. If you're going to elect a man who will start World War 3 or a incompetent bitch just fucking do it already.


Hey! Hillary's the one itching to go to War with Russia! And I was wondering when you Brits were gonna shut up about Brexit! So, put up with it. When the election is over, so will be the Trump vs Hillary threads (maybe).


I am not Britsh , never have been and likely never will be. I know Canada is part of the Commonwealth put surely even a mind fucked Conservative like yourself can tell there is a literal ocean separating my country from the UK. We are also the only country north of you , got that annoying bit called Alaska hanging off our northwest border ya know.
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Ranwolf wrote:

..Can you damn Yanks just get it over with already. I am not even a citizen of your gone to hell country and I hear more about this damn shit then I do about my own political leaders. If you're going to elect a man who will start World War 3 or a incompetent bitch just fucking do it already.


DeadlyOats is right. Putin himself said he hoped Hillary's talk of aggression was just posturing for votes, and would die down after the election. He said that as it stands, Trump is looking favorable for peace between Russia and the US.


Ya know once Putin stops bombing hospitals and signing treaties with an illegal government I'll take anything he says seriously.
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DeadlyOats wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:

..Can you damn Yanks just get it over with already. I am not even a citizen of your gone to hell country and I hear more about this damn shit then I do about my own political leaders. If you're going to elect a man who will start World War 3 or a incompetent bitch just fucking do it already.


Hey! Hillary's the one itching to go to War with Russia! And I was wondering when you Brits were gonna shut up about Brexit! So, put up with it. When the election is over, so will be the Trump vs Hillary threads (maybe).


I am not Britsh , never have been and likely never will be. I know Canada is part of the Commonwealth put surely even a mind fucked Conservative like yourself can tell there is a literal ocean separating my country from the UK. We are also the only country north of you , got that annoying bit called Alaska hanging off our northwest border ya know.


I didn't look at the avatar of who made the comment about "Yanks." I just saw, "Yanks," and thought, 'Oh, a Brit,'
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I didn't look at the avatar of who made the comment about "Yanks." I just saw, "Yanks," and thought, 'Oh, a Brit,'


I like the term Yank, people automatically know I am talking about the United States of America. I mean let's face it the term American can refer to anyone from Canada straight down to Peru ya know.
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Ranwolf wrote:

..Can you damn Yanks just get it over with already. I am not even a citizen of your gone to hell country and I hear more about this damn shit then I do about my own political leaders. If you're going to elect a man who will start World War 3 or a incompetent bitch just fucking do it already.


DeadlyOats is right. Putin himself said he hoped Hillary's talk of aggression was just posturing for votes, and would die down after the election. He said that as it stands, Trump is looking favorable for peace between Russia and the US.


Ya know once Putin stops bombing hospitals and signing treaties with an illegal government I'll take anything he says seriously.


For your viewing pleasure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt6mx0k8tSo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu4vU6P2c_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaySowcn_ek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npUjyI-7fZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYEq1PTVS5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgo04O0vsbY
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Posted 10/26/16

DeadlyOats wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:

..Can you damn Yanks just get it over with already. I am not even a citizen of your gone to hell country and I hear more about this damn shit then I do about my own political leaders. If you're going to elect a man who will start World War 3 or a incompetent bitch just fucking do it already.


DeadlyOats is right. Putin himself said he hoped Hillary's talk of aggression was just posturing for votes, and would die down after the election. He said that as it stands, Trump is looking favorable for peace between Russia and the US.


Ya know once Putin stops bombing hospitals and signing treaties with an illegal government I'll take anything he says seriously.


For your viewing pleasure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt6mx0k8tSo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu4vU6P2c_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaySowcn_ek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npUjyI-7fZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYEq1PTVS5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgo04O0vsbY


Alright aside from insulting Hilary Clinton what do any of the videos have to do with Putin's increasingly alarming deployment of Russian Military assets in Syria ? Great she wants to make War according to a bunch of mind fucked conservatives. All you've done with these videos is waste my time and proven no point on your behalf.

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DeadlyOats wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:

..Can you damn Yanks just get it over with already. I am not even a citizen of your gone to hell country and I hear more about this damn shit then I do about my own political leaders. If you're going to elect a man who will start World War 3 or a incompetent bitch just fucking do it already.


DeadlyOats is right. Putin himself said he hoped Hillary's talk of aggression was just posturing for votes, and would die down after the election. He said that as it stands, Trump is looking favorable for peace between Russia and the US.


Ya know once Putin stops bombing hospitals and signing treaties with an illegal government I'll take anything he says seriously.


For your viewing pleasure...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt6mx0k8tSo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu4vU6P2c_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaySowcn_ek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npUjyI-7fZM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYEq1PTVS5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgo04O0vsbY


Alright aside from insulting Hilary Clinton what do any of the videos have to do with Putin's increasingly alarming deployment of Russian Military assets in Syria ? Great she wants to make War according to a bunch of mind fucked conservatives. All you've done with these videos is waste my time and proven no point on your behalf.



Some of those were Progressive Liberals, not conservatives. Progressive Liberals were calling Hillary, a Neo Conservative. And most of those had tons of video of Hillary, herself, talking the war talk. Her actions as Secretary of State, speaks louder than anything anyone can say. She is a war hawk, and she even called Trump weak against Russia. But no.... I don't suppose any of that will dissuade you from thinking she's a war hawk.

Also, based on the time it took you to reply back after I posted it, not enough time has passed for you to have looked at the videos..... So, I don't think you've looked at them all. That would explain how you missed the Liberal Progressives talking about her being a war hawk.

It's O.K. I know you won't change your mind. You don't need to reply.
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Some of those were Progressive Liberals, not conservatives. Progressive Liberals were calling Hillary, a Neo Conservative. And most of those had tons of video of Hillary, herself, talking the war talk. Her actions as Secretary of State, speaks louder than anything anyone can say. She is a war hawk, and she even called Trump weak against Russia. But no.... I don't suppose any of that will dissuade you from thinking she's a war hawk.

Also, based on the time it took you to reply back after I posted it, not enough time has passed for you to have looked at the videos..... So, I don't think you've looked at them all. That would explain how you missed the Liberal Progressives talking about her being a war hawk.

It's O.K. I know you won't change your mind. You don't need to reply.


My mind on the worthiness of both your potential presidents never needed changing. Why do you rabid Trump fans always assume those who don't share your views automatically support Hilary? I don't I think both are the wrong person for the job and you lot really need a better third choice. There is a reason most countries with half a brain don't use a two party system for their political leadership.

I am just saying all your foaming at the mouth Pro Trump talk is failing to paint Putin as a better person. I don't hold with political leaders that authorise the bombing and attacking of civilian targets. Putin claims to be hunting ISIS then do it, killing kids and unarmed civilians isn't how you run a fight against terrorism . And making deals with a leader who is holding onto his power through illegal and unjustified means isn't needed either.

Trump wants to bury his head and the sand and pretend nothing is wrong. Hilary may or may not be a war monger. Pretending Trump is right does not make Hilary wrong or right, after all only in grade five math does two negatives make a positive.
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Some of those were Progressive Liberals, not conservatives. Progressive Liberals were calling Hillary, a Neo Conservative. And most of those had tons of video of Hillary, herself, talking the war talk. Her actions as Secretary of State, speaks louder than anything anyone can say. She is a war hawk, and she even called Trump weak against Russia. But no.... I don't suppose any of that will dissuade you from thinking she's a war hawk.

Also, based on the time it took you to reply back after I posted it, not enough time has passed for you to have looked at the videos..... So, I don't think you've looked at them all. That would explain how you missed the Liberal Progressives talking about her being a war hawk.

It's O.K. I know you won't change your mind. You don't need to reply.


My mind on the worthiness of both your potential presidents never needed changing. Why do you rabid Trump fans always assume those who don't share your views automatically support Hilary? I don't I think both are the wrong person for the job and you lot really need a better third choice. There is a reason most countries with half a brain don't use a two party system for their political leadership.

I am just saying all your foaming at the mouth Pro Trump talk is failing to paint Putin as a better person. I don't hold with political leaders that authorise the bombing and attacking of civilian targets. Putin claims to be hunting ISIS then do it, killing kids and unarmed civilians isn't how you run a fight against terrorism . And making deals with a leader who is holding onto his power through illegal and unjustified means isn't needed either.

Trump wants to bury his head and the sand and pretend nothing is wrong. Hilary may or may not be a war monger. Pretending Trump is right does not make Hilary wrong or right, after all only in grade five math does two negatives make a positive.


1) HolyDrumstick said, that Putin said blah blah blah.

2) You said, you don't take stock in anything Putin says.

3) I give you a list of videos showing Hilary talking the war talk.

4) You say, it's a bunch of videos of conservatives insulting Clinton. (That was very subtle of you. I hadn't caught that you had changed the direction of the conversation. Very slick.)

5) I point out that some of those videos were Progressive Liberals that were saying it. (I hadn't realized that you had deflected the angle of the conversation at this point.)

6) You make comments that make it seem that I was painting Putin as a good guy and saying that Trump was right.

7) In this thread, I did not say that Trump was right on anything, nor did I ever mention Putin (until just now). (You see? I caught on to your wily tricks, though it took me awhile.)

Posted 10/27/16 , edited 10/27/16

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Alright aside from insulting Hilary Clinton what do any of the videos have to do with Putin's increasingly alarming deployment of Russian Military assets in Syria ? Great she wants to make War according to a bunch of mind fucked conservatives. All you've done with these videos is waste my time and proven no point on your behalf.



I love how the framing of this situation gets so preposterously twisted.

A sovereign nation asked for assistance from 2 other sovereign nations.

Meanwhile, other sovereign nations have boots on the ground (cia & special forces count) and are launching attacks inside that sovereign nation - and they have not been invited. They are attacking & invading another nation and fomenting civil war. Or do you call it something else when a nation sends its top special forces and intelligence covertly into another nation to make war and help outst a leader that doesnt want to play ball? As they have done perhaps 40+ times over the last hundred years all over the globe?

Syria has invited Russia and Iran into their nation to help deal with the ISIS terror that the us, isreal & saudis have created.

The USA, Nato, Isreal have no business in Syria. NONE.

Except for the fact that OPEC nations along with NATO want to put a pipeline through Syria. This includes Quatar, UAE, Israel.

Fact of the matter is, that pipeline does not happen so long as Assad is in power.



So where you are seeing US NATO Israeli aggression, you are calling it Russian aggression.

News wags the population again.

They didnt report in the US news a few weeks back when the russians bombed ISIS and killed over 30 cia, mossad, egyptian ops in that bombing.

But that sort of information is inconvenient to the story being portrayed.
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I don't like either candidate and find both to be repulsive. I also am highly skeptical of the video. However, there are some major issues with using the articles you did as a rebuttal against the video as Trump "doing the same thing" as the Hillary campaign in the video or recent email leaks from the DNC.

1. The video shows the Clinton campaign directing the actions of a super-pac. That is illegal. Also, emails in a recent link show the Clinton campaign accepting foreign donations. Whereas, the first link to articles about Trump, was showing that one of the super-pacs supporting him, which he should have no control over (legally), was engaging in the illegal activity of soliciting foreign donations and promising influence (which if the campaign has no control over them, doesn't hold any weight).

2. In the second article, there was nothing to indicate that the foreign dignitaries that received emails were intended recipients of the fundraising. The article even stated a reason for why they could have received the email, rented email lists from former candidates, that could have also contained foreign dignitaries.
"Sather said he and his company also noticed a big jump in the size of Trump’s distribution list on June 21, signaling that the campaign may have added another list or lists to its existing file.

Renting email lists from former candidates is common practice in politics, and there is evidence suggesting Trump is doing that now."

3. The third link is to something that Trump did in the 80's/90's, was discovered, and penalized for doing. That says nothing of his campaign today. I wouldn't be surprised if there were dirty tricks his campaign is doing with financing today, but this doesn't show it.

Regarding your final point, the issue is not Hillary using "dark money", but illegally (if the video is to be believed), directing the actions of a super-pac. Citizen's United ruling was a court ruling, so the presidency should have no direct impact on it, and it would be illegal if the presidency did have a direct impact on it. But, of course Hillary would want to overturn citizens united. Citizens united was the Republicans counter to what the Democrats were already doing: using contributions from Unions. Unions were and are using dues from members (who have to contribute or lose their job) to fund Democrat campaigns without the consent of their individual members. The Union members can't opt to not have their funds sent to campaigns of those they don't want elected. Also, just because Trump hired the former head from Citizen's United doesn't mean he supports the Citizen's United ruling.
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