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HolyDrumstick wrote:

I try to support anime as much as I can. Sometimes there are anime that are so old and/or obscure I have no choice but look to a free, less than legit, streaming service.

In these cases, I don't feel like I'm doing anything wrong, because I COULDN'T buy them.

However, if given the option to support the industry I always take that choice.


Same here. Since I began to be able to afford it, I pretty much quit piracy entirely unless it's something obscure as hell that I can't get legally. Now, I didn't necessarily delete my old collection either, but I only add legal rips of my own stuff to it. Man, you just reminded me that I need to get a new DVD rack.
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I pirate the stuff that won't ever be licensed here, and I can't buy it because it's in Japanese without English subtitles and really obnoxiously expensive. I'm not paying that much money for like 2 episodes per disk when my favorite series is over 200 episodes now. :/

I do buy anime, I do buy manga, and I do watch legal streams when I can. But it doesn't stop me from watching anything else I'm interested in whether it's over here or not. That also goes for Sentai, Kamen Rider, and other Tokusatsu. If they won't bring it over it's no pain on my end to download the crap. And besides all that I end up buying merch if I like it anyway. I have some Rider belts, a bunch of articulated figures, and other random merch. I have no problems shelling cash when I like something.
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I've done both, for many years. The last two years, however, I've only been buying. That does not mean that if an anime that I really want to watch is not released for sale in the U.S. that I wouldn't get it by other means....

In other words, if I can buy it from Funimation, The Right Stuff, The Anime Corner Store, then I'll get. If it's on CR, I'll stream it. If none of the above, and I REALLY, REALLY want to watch it.... I'll fire up my Transmission.....

However, I've been finding it really hard to not find something I really want to watch through legal means. CR and Funi have really kicked up their game. I haven't had to torrent anything in a very long time, two years.

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Posted 10/26/16 , edited 10/26/16

MonoDreams wrote:

It's not pirating if you watch it online. Also, anime on DVD and Blu-Ray cost 60$ and 70$ at the highest price. So, never buying anime DVD or Blu-ray.


Depends on the company--If you're buying from Bandai, for ex., it can be insanely priced.
But $50-60 also means you're getting the entire season, or even the entire series...Eh, you youngsters, in my day, $30 bought you a DVD with THREE episodes!

More to the point, Old School anime fans know the value of buying series before someone takes them away again.
Used to "pirate" anime from good fansubbers (the ones who removed it off their lists when the title was licensed), and then struggle to buy it when it came out on physical--But now that practically everything is licensed for streaming literally as it's airing, "All those Internet Pirates" is a relic of the old 00's Bubble days, when companies tried to find lame blame-shifting excuses for why we weren't buying $30 DVD's with three episodes on them.
Tried to find the old fansub sites from my 00's days, and most of the "No unlicensed titles" sites have gone out of business...Because there AREN'T any.

So now I do what most sensible 21st-cty. anime fans do: Stream to watch, buy to own...maybe.
Hard to tell; apart from the classics, there hasn't really been much that I've wanted to buy since Princess Tutu and Azumanga.
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I admit I watch eng dubbed anime illegaly coz of region block.
If I watch one show illegaly I sometimes go amazon.com to buy the whole season. I watch subbed anime legally.

Why you don't buy your anime in store that is near you?
This question is really often what I hear and I say "don't make me laugh only thing what I can buy here in finland is manga and that is expensive as hell"

If companies want more money stop region blocking. Just saying.
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I also pirate, and I only buy hentai games and manga, shame on me = =. Well, I had the idea of supporting anime stock a while ago, but god knows where to buy that lol
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I pirate them by reading manga off scanlation websites because that's the fastest way to get content that won't be in Japanese tankobon format for a few more months. A year or more if I were to wait for the English version. But I also buy plenty of merchandise from manga, artbooks, statues, bluray, etc from the official distributors. I have a subscription on both Crunchyroll and Funimation and a membership card with Kinokuniya for when I buy manga volumes and novels. I do the same with books. I download the e-reader copy *for free* and purchase the hardcopy if I like the book.
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I buy an anime or three a month up to $150. Just got the collector's edition Owari no Seraph.

I still pirate, for two reasons:

1) My college anime club has a very nice full HD projector and screening room available, but only a DVD player connected by RCA cables. Not sure what the college was thinking there, cause they lobby next to us has a BD player. As screening director, I switched us over to a laptop running Plex Media Server via VGA cable to make use of the projector. At first I tried ripping the DVD and BluRays we have in our 186 title library (We have good stuff, a dozen Aniplex releases, TTGL etc...), but I realized it was easier to just download rips of the same titles.

2) Some shows just aren't available legally, like my second-favorite Shaft release: Sayanora Zetsubo Sensei. Or, they aren't on Blu ray in the US. (I refuse to pay money for DVD quality in 2016, no matter how much I like Akuma no Riddle)
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Piracy is a big deal, especially for companies. I recently seen a few statistics that showed millions of dollars lost to piracy. Is that really the case? Because I for one do pirate a lot of anime, but I also buy pretty much everything that I pirate. So my piracy is not a loss of sale for the companies. The question is: Do you solely pirate your anime? Or do you buy it as well?

While we are on the subject, do you think piracy should be completely gotten rid of?


any source link ?

the thing is companies think people who pirated will pay ?

there are countries where people are making $7-10 a day

so at what price you want to sell your products to those people ?

also do you want to sue those people for hundreds of thousand or millions over piracy? given their income ?

the last thing is the the media quality they are watching are crap

it's like watching CAM version of a movie

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Back in high school I used to watch on illegal sites because there was no way my parents were going to pay for me to watch anime, which they considered a waste of time. (The still do! :D) But since I have a job, I use crunchyroll for all my anime streaming, since they usually get all the titles I'm interested in for whatever season it is. I have a friend with a funimation account, so when owari no seraph and servamp came out, she let me use her account to watch. Haven't really thought about buying DVD/blu ray copies of my fave series'. Oh well.

If I pirate anything, it's manga. Just for the new chapter releases. But it's also of all titles available here in America. Like My Hero Academia, Haikyu, Fairy Tail, Seven Deadly Sins, Blue Exorcist, Black Butler, and Attack onTitan. All of which I end up buying the new volumes for anyway when they're released here in America. So I really don't feel guilty when I pirate my manga. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Posted 10/27/16
The nice thing about buying DVDs to throw in the old VHS player is that you can find shows that no one will ever hear of.
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Posted 10/27/16
Yes i do pirate i also subscribe and buy where i can
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Posted 10/27/16

SpartanSlayer64 wrote:(I refuse to pay money for DVD quality in 2016, no matter how much I like Akuma no Riddle)


I don't understand this.

I refuse to buy anything but DVD. I have literally never noticed a difference worth paying for an expensive player and more expensive discs.

They come out with holograms, or every movie goes 3D, and THEN I may switch.

Posted 10/27/16 , edited 10/27/16

Bryan4490 wrote:

Piracy is a big deal, especially for companies. I recently seen a few statistics that showed millions of dollars lost to piracy. Is that really the case? Because I for one do pirate a lot of anime, but I also buy pretty much everything that I pirate. So my piracy is not a loss of sale for the companies. The question is: Do you solely pirate your anime? Or do you buy it as well?

While we are on the subject, do you think piracy should be completely gotten rid of?


I pirate it, watch it on Crunchyroll, and occasionally buy the Blu-Ray DVD release for stuff I like (assuming the price isn't unreasonable... Wagnaria season 3 *cough cough). It really just depends on where it's available. A lost sale presumes these people would have bought it otherwise, and speaking for myself I've rarely been given the opportunity to pay for most of the anime I've pirated.


Nope, and it's impossible. As long as bits can be copied there will be pirates.
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Posted 10/27/16 , edited 10/27/16
I used to hire anime on VHS back in the day. That was my only source of anime, well unless you include the very limited amount that was on tv. I pretty much rented anime videos for years and then that carried over to renting anime on DVD.
I actually did start buying anime on VHS before i switched over to DVD but in all honestly i bought a shit load of hentai more so than just anime
But i actually did start buying locally released anime dvds like mad for a while there. Plus i would import some from America and buy the odd second hand ones.
Admittedly i stupidly bought ALOT of Chinese pirated anime dvds for a while there. There was a store locally that sold alot of pirate stuff but they all legit now and have been for some time. And when i was in Melbourne i bought alot of pirate stuff too and i bought alot of pirate stuff on e bay for a while there to.
But i paid the price for that. I threw alot of them in the bin as some had episodes missing or out of order and really inaccurate subtitles, some the quailty of the episodes varied , some would freeze and etc.........
I stopped doing that. I think i may have even purchased pirate videos before and wall scrolls and even a figurine once.

Anyways, for a while there i was indeed supporting the anime and hentai industry both locally and importing from America and Japan as far as buying videos and dvds and figurines.
I would also hire anime still and i was downloading SHIT LOADS of torrents. So yes, if you add up all the Chinese pirated dvds and all the years and years of downloading torrenst plus some illegal streaming then i indeed was both buying and pirating anime.

Eventually i pretty much completely stopped buying any anime or anime merch at all bar every now and then buying a figurine or a wall scroll(s) and i stopped buying hentai a long time ago.
And for years i was only downloading anime via torrents.

Now, and for some time crunchy roll is pretty much my sole source for anime. So i feel like iam supporting the industry again. I simply cannot afford to buy dvds.
Anime is one of the most expensive hobbies to have. As far as being a collector. Especially ontop of buying/collecting music and video games and being a drinker...

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