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Posted 2/14/17

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I want to support the company that make those awesome Anime. Its not fair for those that work hard making those Anime. Its getting worse, and one of those days the company going to make less and less of them all because those Scumbag are making illegal copy and sell them or illegally displaying them on the internet.

That bother me, because lately I noticed there lot of anime and movie that can be easily found on many of those illegal sites. We need Internet Police to shut down those illegal sites.


Don't forget that watching anime legally outside of english speaking countries is almost impossible.
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Doesn't Japan make most of it's money from anime and manga off of itself?
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I try and buy what I can to support the industry, but living in England makes purchasing anime related stuff hard.
To this day I'm still trying to purchase the original Fullmetal Alchemist series, but can't seem to find it anyyyywhereee
If not, I just stream on either Crunchyroll or some other form of anime streaming.
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I pirate all the time!! Why the fuck not if they are gonna charge 100 bucks for a japanese cartoon cause thats what anime is its cartoons, In japan they dont call there anime, "anime" is a term for the western world to separate western and eastern cartoons but seriously 100 bucks with shipping to buy any 1 season, The MOST i will support is a subscription for crunchyroll cause atleast thats a fucking reasonable price.

LONG LIVE THE FREE TV REVOLUTION

Honestly just get a VPN and ull never get caught pirating, If you think about it pirating in a way supports the show cause the more downloads the more clicks the more views the more people MIGHT buy it.

You think the anime industry would of lasted long in the western world without pirating HA think again if ur not too young to remember you would know that 10 years ago the only way you could get anime was buy pirating so again if it wasnt for pirating, Crunchy roll probably would never have been born.
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hmmm, paying member for crunchyroll, my brother has a proper netflix membership which you could use several profiles on, and I do try to browse what amazon has in it's store, but I'd probably end up pirating if I had to look on amazon mostly because getting a series costs so much more then more popular stuff. I'm in the UK so watching it on TV isn't an option. I'd say anything between 50 - 80% of the series I'm interested in on a usual season I just got into it after seeing it on CR anyway.

and yes, gunslinger's right, don't know exactly how many but a couple of the people who first worked on CR undoubtedly worked on sub sites
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I don't really buy anime dvds tbh. Some of them can be reasonably price, but unfortunately not many of my favourite shows are out on DVD over here T^T.
As for pirating, no I don't. I used to pirate older shows that weren't available for legal streaming, but that's about it. In terms of simulcasts, if it's not available, for legal streaming, I'm not usually interested in it.
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Posted 2/14/17 , edited 2/14/17
In general if it is not on Crunchyroll I will either buy it on Blu-ray or DVD (even if said copies are out of print, unless they are exorbinantly expensive or such a rarity they can't be found) if it is available or find another legal source that has it. There have been a few cases though where something is unlicensed and I want to watch it, and it is only in those cases where I will defer to a fansub (to be fair though, the few cases in which this has happened have usually been old or obscure shows that have no hope in hell of having a legal means). In those cases I don't see myself as being in the wrong though, since I support the industry whenever I'm given the option, and if something isn't there for me to buy I couldn't have bought it from them anyway.
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Posted 2/14/17 , edited 2/14/17

altaidox wrote:

I try and buy what I can to support the industry, but living in England makes purchasing anime related stuff hard.
To this day I'm still trying to purchase the original Fullmetal Alchemist series, but can't seem to find it anyyyywhereee
If not, I just stream on either Crunchyroll or some other form of anime streaming.


My friend, the answer to your problem is a region free Blu-ray player. As soon as I obtained one of those off of ebay I configured it to region A and was able to import any American licensed show I wanted from the US Amazon site. Hell, if you really wanna push the boat out, some anime direct from Japan on amazon.jp have English subs included, but obviously they are ludicrously expensive. The player may be a little difficult to find, but I managed to get mine for under £50 used. I believe the original series is available from Funimation if you manage that. Only problem is you do run a small risk of an import charge, but it's never happened to me and I've ordered loads of stuff from the US.

It's a real pain that we even have to do this in the first place, but its an option if you're looking to expand your collection beyond the somewhat paltry offerings the UK gets. Although, the UK licensors have really stepped up their game as far as BD releases go in recent years, and Anime Limited are a freaking amazing company that has even gotten us a few things that even the US hasn't got. I got a limited edition artbox Blu-ray set of Gurren Lagann including the full series, both movies, the parallel works, and an art book off them last week, and it only cost £30! The Aniplex Blu-rays America got offered cost like a grand.

Hell, if anyone from the US is also reading this, get yourselves a region B player just for Aniplex releases. The UK gets Aniplex licensed stuff a little later, but it gets sublicensed and consequently ends up being much cheaper. For example, Madoka on Blu-ray from Aniplex America was like $200, but the UK set was £25 (about $40), and the Fate/Zero Blu-rays were like $250 from Aniplex, but we got an initial two part collectors edition for like £80 (about $110), and now you can also get a whole standard edition for £50 (like $70).
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The only show I've pirated so far and that's because there's no blu ray to buy yet is Scum's Wish. I'm not paying another 5 bucks on top of my Prime membership Amazon when I'm already paying for Daisuki, Funimation and Crunchyroll!!!!

Once the show is on blue ray I'll buy it.
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I avoid piracy when possible. First I'll check crunchy, if it's not here I look for blurays, if they cost more than $30-40 a season I decide whether I want to see it badly enough to torrent it. There's also out of print stuff to consider, I have no qualms about downloading anything that is not commercially available.

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My friend, the answer to your problem is a region free Blu-ray player. As soon as I obtained one of those off of ebay I configured it to region A and was able to import any American licensed show I wanted from the US Amazon site. Hell, if you really wanna push the boat out, some anime direct from Japan on amazon.jp have English subs included, but obviously they are ludicrously expensive. The player may be a little difficult to find, but I managed to get mine for under £50 used. I believe the original series is available from Funimation if you manage that. Only problem is you do run a small risk of an import charge, but it's never happened to me and I've ordered loads of stuff from the US.

It's a real pain that we even have to do this in the first place, but its an option if you're looking to expand your collection beyond the somewhat paltry offerings the UK gets. Although, the UK licensors have really stepped up their game as far as BD releases go in recent years, and Anime Limited are a freaking amazing company that has even gotten us a few things that even the US hasn't got. I got a limited edition artbox Blu-ray set of Gurren Lagann including the full series, both movies, the parallel works, and an art book off them last week, and it only cost £30! The Aniplex Blu-rays America got offered cost like a grand.

Hell, if anyone from the US is also reading this, get yourselves a region B player just for Aniplex releases. The UK gets Aniplex licensed stuff a little later, but it gets sublicensed and consequently ends up being much cheaper. For example, Madoka on Blu-ray from Aniplex America was like $200, but the UK set was £25 (about $40), and the Fate/Zero Blu-rays were like $250 from Aniplex, but we got an initial two part collectors edition for like £80 (about $110), and now you can also get a whole standard edition for £50 (like $70).


Doesn't that approach get you stung by US shipping charges over time though? I've imported things from the US maybe... twice in recent memory, and the charges were pretty unattractive to me. Can't really see buying anime from the US every time being much of a viable option for those of us on a budget. To boot, the last time I got hit with a Customs charge on top of that, and that really deterred me. ;-;

To answer the OP: I dislike having to pirate anime, but I'm not opposed to it if I can't find an affordable legal source. I don't buy all that much in terms of hard copies, but I search out legal sources as much as I can. I vastly prefer streaming to hard copies, especially now that I'm a student and I have to hop around flats every year; moving is awkward enough as it is without the boxes of anime DVDs/Blu-rays (I don't even have a TV right now because of said issue, but that can easily change).

My moral stance on the whole piracy thing is fairly simple. Japan (and by extension the anime industry) needs all the money it can get, so try where you can. If you can't for whatever reason, they don't exactly lose anything.
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Posted 2/14/17 , edited 2/14/17

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Doesn't that approach get you stung by US shipping charges over time though? I've imported things from the US maybe... twice in recent memory, and the charges were pretty unattractive to me. Can't really see buying anime from the US every time being much of a viable option for those of us on a budget. To boot, the last time I got hit with a Customs charge on top of that, and that really deterred me. ;-;



I recall buying a few things over the years and to my memory the shipping costs were never that horrible (unless you're buying direct from Japan, but obviously that's always gonna cost a hefty premium). You must have gotten unlucky with the import charge, because it never happened to me. However last time I ordered from the US Amazon had implimented a thing where they added the probable import charge onto my order to smoothen the process (it was about £4 extra after shipping).. Failing that, if you find the url on the .com amazon site and then simply replace it with .co.uk (or whatever your regional amazon site is), you will usually be sent to an identical page on your own country's site, and more often than not, there will be a few 3rd party sellers selling the imported product from your home country, thus negating the shipping charges and import charge, and just paying what the seller wants upfront (usually quicker shipping too since it's not coming internationally). Ebay can also have a good few of these sellers selling international goods in your own country.


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We carry a subscription to crunchy roll so i subscribe most of the time. But in there are several series that cruchyroll carries the series but not the ova. So there are times you have no choice.
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I know about the background of this legal issue: the few big American cartoon companies, especially Hollywood, is sponsoring corrupt government officers to create economic sanction toward anime and protect their oligopoly. The economic sanction against anime seems to be reversing on the year 2017 as shown by the news article on http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/01/08-1/viz-manga-sells-at-walmart.

Hollywood blame the current failure of their company to the free streaming of Hollywood movies online in contrary to their support of the free market. However, streaming of Hollywood movies often get censored on the internet unless they get permission from Hollywood producers; anime industries are the one who suffer from this free streaming on the internet since they lack the legal protection due to their increasing threat toward the Capitalist ideology. Hollywood producers make up many lies to confuse the citizen like their false attribution of their unfavorable policies to anime producers and attribution of the favorable policies from anime producers to themselves.

Hollywood further sponsor white-collar hacking in both Google+ and Facebook to steal the identities of influential users so they can gain credibility for their lies and censor anyone who tell the truth. The hackers ban anyone from using a unique term for Japanese animation and associate the success of anime with Western cartoons. The hackers use the credibility of their hacked account to blame the bankruptcy of anime industries on the citizen for watching free anime online while hiding the lack of legal access to many anime in American stores, especially those from small industries, so American customers will buy Hollywood cartoons. A poll in several anime communities dispel the rumors by showing that anime fans like anime not because of easy access but because of the anime content.

During mid-October of 2015, a person under the username of aka yumi make a post on a few large anime communities on Google+ to question why very few anime is sold in American stores compared to Western cartoons even when anime is viewed way more often than Western cartoons. A similar question was asked about manga. Aka yumi also state that the American cartoons are imitating anime to become successful. This post receives huge positive ratings and cause the whiet collar hacker (who takeover the large anime communities by hacking into the moderator accounts) to continuously delete any further posts from aka yumi.
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The merchandises as well, especially when an anime goes super popular.
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