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I hate to admit it but I rather not vote for anyone for this coming election
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Posted 11/2/16 , edited 11/2/16
This mentality pisses me off. I've always thought that people who try and stay on the sidelines lead empty, meaningless, short lives. You think just because you don't care about politics it somehow doesn't effect you, but pretty much everything you do is the result of politics. Presidents are elected every four freaking years, so stop acting like your one vote decides the fate of the freaking universe and we're all gonna come running back to you because you made a "wrong" choice. We don't care who you choose, we just care that you vote! Quit trying to pussy out, grow some balls, and go do your country a service.

Bring back the old generations that actually see the value in voting.
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UnRavel1 wrote:

This mentality pisses me off. I've always thought that people who try and stay on the sidelines lead empty, meaningless, short lives. You think just because you don't care about politics it somehow doesn't effect you, but it pretty much everything you do is the result of politics. Presidents are elected every four freaking years, so stop acting like your one vote decides the fate of the freaking universe and we're all gonna come running back to you because you made a "wrong" choice. We don't care who you choose, we just care that you vote! Quit trying to pussy out, grow some balls, and go do your country a service.

Bring back the old generations that actually see the value in voting.


Yeah! What he ranted!

IOW, the old saying "If you don't vote, somebody else WILL... " was never more terrifyingly true than this year.
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If you don't like Trump or Hillary you don't have to choose between the two of them. There are more candidates running. One of them (Gary Johnson) is on every ballot and another (Jill Stein) is on most ballots including New Jersey. It seems there are 9 candidates on the New Jersey ballot. If you feel that you absolutely have to choose someone, it would be helpful to look into these candidates and see who you like the most. I can guarantee you they are infinitely better than the two nightmares that somehow won the Republican and Democrat nominations.

Reaching 5% in the popular vote would also give that party federal funding and easier ballot access in most states, which would make it easier for them in the next election. Right now the only party that can realistically reach that threshold is the Libertarian party, but it'll likely be very close. Getting a third-party to 5% will have far more long term effects on the two-party system than electing a democrat or republican, so if you want to see change I'd recommend this. The Green Party is the lagging behind the Libertarians, but they may pull off a surprise and reach 5% too. Polls under sample young voters who are more likely to support third-parties, so it's not an exaggeration to say the success of these parties will largely depend on how many young people go out to vote next week. If you don't like Gary Johnson or Jill Stein either, there are still other candidates you could vote for.

If you decide you won't vote for any presidential candidate, there are also people running for other offices. You can check all the races going on in New Jersey on this website:
https://ballotpedia.org/New_Jersey_elections,_2016

So if you're interested at all, maybe you can check the names of the people running in your district and quickly take a look at their websites if they have any.

Just remember one very important thing. This is your choice and yours alone. No one should try to pressure you into voting for someone you don't like. You could stay home all day if you don't see any candidate you like. If you're afraid someone will ridicule you for voting a certain way, you could always stay quiet or lie about who you voted for. No one will ever know unless they're standing right on top of you when you're voting. This has been a historically negative election. No one will blame for not liking one of the two overgrown children throwing mud at each other, unless they're fanatical supporters of one of them... Regardless, you shouldn't feel bad if your vote disappoints other people and you shouldn't cast a vote with a gun to your head. Feel free to vote for whoever you feel best represents you, if there is anyone.
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And remember, even if you're not voting FOR one candidate, you still get to vote AGAINST at least one of them--Doing nothing just lets them both kick you in the pants.
Stand up and face your fears, don't run from them.
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Posted 11/2/16

UnRavel1 wrote:

This mentality pisses me off. I've always thought that people who try and stay on the sidelines lead empty, meaningless, short lives. You think just because you don't care about politics it somehow doesn't effect you, but it pretty much everything you do is the result of politics. Presidents are elected every four freaking years, so stop acting like your one vote decides the fate of the freaking universe and we're all gonna come running back to you because you made a "wrong" choice. We don't care who you choose, we just care that you vote! Quit trying to pussy out, grow some balls, and go do your country a service.

Bring back the old generations that actually see the value in voting.


THANK YOU.
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UnRavel1 wrote:

This mentality pisses me off. I've always thought that people who try and stay on the sidelines lead empty, meaningless, short lives. You think just because you don't care about politics it somehow doesn't effect you, but pretty much everything you do is the result of politics. Presidents are elected every four freaking years, so stop acting like your one vote decides the fate of the freaking universe and we're all gonna come running back to you because you made a "wrong" choice. We don't care who you choose, we just care that you vote! Quit trying to pussy out, grow some balls, and go do your country a service.

Bring back the old generations that actually see the value in voting.


Shaming people into voting? She'll live a short life if she doesn't vote?
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Posted 11/3/16
Like it or not, the election will affect you whether you find it boring is irrelevant. Go and vote for one of the several US presidential candidates.
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Hey qualeshia, no, you don't have to vote. You are free to participate (or refrain from participation) in government however you choose. But may I ask: why don't you care? Is it because it doesn't affect you? If that's the case, let me assure you it does. Government is involved in everything from pissing off the businessman down the street to making sure your food is handled safely (which, by the way, is why that particular business man is mad- the regulations impose a burden on him). But that is mostly on a local level.

So why does the president matter? Well, for starters, the president is the face of our country. He literally speaks for you all around the world, whether you like what he's saying or not. As an example (albeit slightly removed from our system) President Duterte of the Philippines spoke for his nation when he called President Obama a "Son of a b****," and essentially told the U.S. to mind our own business instead of criticizing his indiscriminately killing drug dealers. Not everyone in the Philippines agrees with him, but he spoke for the ones who disagreed, too. In our system, the President has significant control over policy issues, both foreign and domestic. He is Commander-in-Chief of the military, capable of ordering short-term deployments with little say-so from anyone else. He is our head executive, capable of giving orders with the force of law, up to but not including those that directly contradict a Congressional law. If he so chooses, he can exert influence over schools and other institutions that are by rights controlled by state, not federal, governments.

If you really don't believe any of this affects you, it's your right not to vote. But this is important. It matters for our economy, our alliances, and our safety.

Sorry if I sounded ranty, it's not my intention. Now that I've chases rabbits for a while, I would like to come back to my original question: Why don't you want to vote? You mentioned a few things, like not thinking it's important, and not thinking it's fair to chose between two people, but I'm afraid I don't really understand. Could you elaborate?

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I'm perfectly fine admitting I don't support either candidate enough to cast a vote. Its note like anyone is forced to agree with one or the either. Wait freedom is still a thing isn't it? just checking..
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The problem with refusing to choice between to bad options is it gets you stuck with the worst one. It's not even like it's close. Care about disabled people, vote Hillary. Care about gay people, vote Hillary. Care about wage slavery and minium wage, vote Hillary.

Yeah it's mostly a vote against Trump. But please care more about the people Trump will hurt, then spite.
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I mean you might as well go out and vote, considering electoral college votes have more power.

What I mean is, it's statistically slim that you'd be turning the tides of the ballot, so on a personal level you really have little to worry about your own decisions.

Posted 11/3/16

Jean104 wrote:

The problem with refusing to choice between to bad options is it gets you stuck with the worst one. It's not even like it's close. Care about disabled people, vote Hillary. Care about gay people, vote Hillary. Care about wage slavery and minium wage, vote Hillary.

Yeah it's mostly a vote against Trump. But please care more about the people Trump will hurt, then spite.


you must have had some pretty amazing teachers in school
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Posted 11/3/16
I understand and you are free to do what you want.... buuuut !@#$ trump dude plz vote it's really quick.
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Posted 11/3/16
Go vote. If you don't like Trump or Hilary, vote for a third party or suggest another candidate.
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Posted 29 days ago
I'm just going to vote Independent this time around. To hell with both party's candidates this time around.
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