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Satan is at best, a big old test devised by God to test the worth of humanity. Fall for his lures and your unworthy of Heaven.
Its a trap!
Also by that sentence, satan is better than God in many ways.
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Argh, if this is as simple as a blood test then there wouldn't be a problem, no offense really


Mate theology is simple, much simpler then a blood test. I mean if a brain dead simple soldier like me can figure it out you can too. I mean go ahead ask anyone here, my intelligence is not my redeeming factor.


Well, I'm just saying that in order to be a Christian you have to give up all other gods and believe in nothing else but what's said in the bible and if you do not believe in God you would suffer eternal damnation, ya, I went to the church group for this girl
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fredreload wrote:


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Argh, if this is as simple as a blood test then there wouldn't be a problem, no offense really


Mate theology is simple, much simpler then a blood test. I mean if a brain dead simple soldier like me can figure it out you can too. I mean go ahead ask anyone here, my intelligence is not my redeeming factor.


Well, I'm just saying that in order to be a Christian you have to give up all other gods and believe in nothing else but what's said in the bible and if you do not believe in God you would suffer eternal damnation, ya, I went to the church group for this girl


True if you wanted to be Christian but Theology and Religion are not the same things at all mate. Theology is merely the study of Religion as a whole. While it's true most Theologians are believers in a particular religion you don't necessarily need to believe in anything to study it as a whole . And Religion is a vast scope of monotheistic beliefs to spirit worship ala Shinto ya know. And everything in between and after, and before for that matter.
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Well but I am like half Christian, anyone seen Underworld?


That doesn't really make sense. You either try to follow someone, or you don't.
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Ranwolf wrote:
Satan is at best, a big old test devised by God to test the worth of humanity. Fall for his lures and your unworthy of Heaven.
Its a trap!
Also by that sentence, satan is better than God in many ways.
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I am not entirely sure how the created could better the creator nor how an abstract concept designed to test men and women could be better then God. I mean devil worship is technically Lucifer worship and Lucifer and Satan are two very different things.
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fredreload wrote:

Well but I am like half Christian, anyone seen Underworld?


That doesn't really make sense. You either try to follow someone, or you don't.


It does when you consider most followers of anything don't actually know jack shit about the thing they profess to believe in. Going to Church in your Sunday best , listening to a sermon , and eating a wafer and drinking a bit of wine makes you no more Christian then the dude watching football at home. Faith is more then a suit and two hours spent at church every week after all.
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I am not entirely sure how the created could better the creator
because the created do what they do, while the creator could have done something.

And following that crazy nonsense that we are being tested? lol <__<
thats such an awful excuse.
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Ranwolf wrote:


nanikore2 wrote:


fredreload wrote:

Well but I am like half Christian, anyone seen Underworld?


That doesn't really make sense. You either try to follow someone, or you don't.


It does when you consider most followers of anything don't actually know jack shit about the thing they profess to believe in. Going to Church in your Sunday best , listening to a sermon , and eating a wafer and drinking a bit of wine makes you no more Christian then the dude watching football at home. Faith is more then a suit and two hours spent at church every week after all.


Then they aren't Christians because they aren't trying to follow. What's the use in listening to anything if it changes nothing?
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I'm more agnostic, with strong leanings to Buddhism, than anything but there are too many different sects of Christianity to make a good overarching decision. I mean, if my girlfriend was one of those atheists who can't stop talking about how stupid and disastrous religion is and love to point out how they think it makes them more mentally resilient and capable than anyone who follows a belief system I think that relationship would be over pretty soon. On the flip side if she was an ultra devout christian who was just unwilling to budge on anything I think it would be just as difficult for me. I guess I would just want to be with someone where that facet is not the primary base of their personality, but I don't really ever think about that.
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GooseMcDucks wrote:


Ranwolf wrote:
I am not entirely sure how the created could better the creator
because the created do what they do, while the creator could have done something.

And following that crazy nonsense that we are being tested? lol <__<
thats such an awful excuse.


Life is a test mate,if not by God then by ourselves. In school your knowledge and wisdom were tested constantly, in adult life your commitment to your job is tested on a daily basis. Your abilities to generate an income are tested second by second by your stomach, by your bills, and by your children if applicable.

If Life is so why do you think God would be any different?
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Then they aren't Christians because they aren't trying to follow. What's the use in listening to anything if it changes nothing?


There is no use but I nor anyone can stop such people from calling themselves Christians. But it does not mean faith itself is demeaned. Faith has driven people to do things that should have been impossible. It does not have to be faith in God per say but true Faith is faith only when it is in something far larger then ourselves.

In the end though we can't simply throw out the baby with the bath water simple because of few Half-Faithful as it were.
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I'm more agnostic, with strong leanings to Buddhism, than anything but there are too many different sects of Christianity to make a good overarching decision. I mean, if my girlfriend was one of those atheists who can't stop talking about how stupid and disastrous religion is and love to point out how they think it makes them more mentally resilient and capable than anyone who follows a belief system I think that relationship would be over pretty soon. On the flip side if she was an ultra devout christian who was just unwilling to budge on anything I think it would be just as difficult for me. I guess I would just want to be with someone where that facet is not the primary base of their personality, but I don't really ever think about that.


There are no shortages of Buddhist sects.

Christian denominations aren't sects. Let me explain this in a more plain way. The different denominations simply stresses different Biblical teachings. If it's not Biblical then it's not even Christian.

It's nonsensical to say something like "Hey this part of the text is more important than that part, so if you stress this other part it's blasphemy!" No, the Protestant tradition doesn't work like that.
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Well, I'm just saying that in order to be a Christian you have to give up all other gods and believe in nothing else but what's said in the bible and if you do not believe in God you would suffer eternal damnation, ya, I went to the church group for this girl


It can be difficult to answer your topic question because the word "Christian" can mean different things to different people.


From my limited understanding, to be Christian is to be a follower of Christ. I see it as wise to follow the spirit of Christ and not follow the superficial words in a book to the letter. Currently I'd say The Bible is something which can point to the spirit of Christ but is not to be considered the spirit of Christ.

In the example you gave above I still can't give an answer since I do not know what those words mean to her. The first impression I get is a red flag with The Bible seemingly being treated as equal to God. Whether or not that is what she believes, I can not say.
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I couldn't see any relationship between a non Christian and a faithful Christian working out in the end.
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I doesn't really matter to me as long as they're a nice person
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