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fredreload wrote:

Hi, I am an aetheist, so I'm curious as to know if you want your boyfriend or girlfriend to be Christian if you are a Christian, or aetheist if you are an aetheist, or it doesn't matter. And really what percent of American population is Christian?


Numbers range from 70-83 percent of American people say they are Christian.
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There's a whoooole lot of other religions besides Christian or nothing. If I had to choose someone by religion, I think I'd date a buddhist. Most of my friends have been Jewish, too, because most of my area is, so if the person I end up with has any religion, they'd probably be Jewish...
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fredreload wrote:

Hi, I am an aetheist, so I'm curious as to know if you want your boyfriend or girlfriend to be Christian if you are a Christian, or aetheist if you are an aetheist, or it doesn't matter. And really what percent of American population is Christian?


Numbers range from 70-83 percent of American people say they are Christian.


That explains why most of the good looking girls are Christians, and I ran into two of them in Taiwan
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Sure... life, there is many tests but by god? ha
Some of them can be fair or unfair.
Some are just evil that you will fail no matter what.
Saying that is a test?
thats just death.
and why it annoys me when people say that stuff.

Its more the nature of things, things happen, things collide, things move and changes.
A god would be just useless for all that, hope on the other hand is more useful.
A god like the norse ones, did just that from love to war.
While this god is just playing around until he can restart the game.
Then that means jesus wasn't a thing or just a hint?
It still would mean nothing much for us.
and we shouldn't care for him and just survive longer in his game (tech and moving to a new planet).
But why did he then create life forms out in space?
For us to discover?
Very unlikely...
What about the "fun" god as for the earth?
If earth is destroyed would it mean the test was a waste of time since god would just kill us all?

I believe more in the nature then I could ever believe in such a stupid god.

all this about us having a test would very much say that other humans are more or less useless.
I guess thats what war does to one...
Soldiers believing stupid shit about others and why they fight or kill.


See what you're trying to do here is reconcile a fear of death by disguising it as a hatred of a so called unfair Deity. I think of it less as playing around till the reset switch is hit and more of simply well reality.

Nothing is eternal mate, save perhaps our souls but metaphysics aren't what I am arguing right now. Everything ends, dies. But from death rebirth happens. An animal dies, it's body then rots and becomes fertiliser. And everything it once was lives on in the world around it. And in turn is consumed by other animals who then repeat the cycle. This is true in nature as well as in Religion.

In nature the pattern is far clearer and generally more accepted. But both nature and God agree something has to end for something else to begin. Calling it evil when it is spoken of by Religion but accepting it with open arms when it's nature's doing is a bit hypocritical of you mate.
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MysticGon wrote:


fredreload wrote:

Hi, I am an aetheist, so I'm curious as to know if you want your boyfriend or girlfriend to be Christian if you are a Christian, or aetheist if you are an aetheist, or it doesn't matter. And really what percent of American population is Christian?


Numbers range from 70-83 percent of American people say they are Christian.


That explains why most of the good looking girls are Christians, and I ran into two of them in Taiwan


Yeah disparaging someone's faith isn't an effective way into their pants.
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There are no shortages of Buddhist sects.

Christian denominations aren't sects. Let me explain this in a more plain way. The different denominations simply stresses different Biblical teachings. If it's not Biblical then it's not even Christian.

It's nonsensical to say something like "Hey this part of the text is more important than that part, so if you stress this other part it's blasphemy!" No, the Protestant tradition doesn't work like that.


I meant denominations.
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Ranwolf wrote: See what you're trying to do here is reconcile a fear of death by disguising it as a hatred of a so called unfair Deity.

Calling it evil when it is spoken of by Religion but accepting it with open arms when it's nature's doing is a bit hypocritical of you mate.
what?
Death is death, but by others I hate.


Now you're just trying to be pedantic mate. Tying the actions of men with the will of a Deity is just pitiful. You assume because men say God said so that God did indeed say so or did so. Gods ( and yes I use the plural because unlike you I can see past my own prejudices) have one thing in common. And that is granting humanity free will , because without it none of our successes would mean anything. And none of our failures would matter.

But both are rewarded and punished accordingly.

You ( quite foolishly I might add) see a division between Nature and God. Simply because they don't agree with the philosophical mess you believe in. I say in Nature God's will is clear to see, his law easy enough for a child to understand. Laws of Death and Rebirth, of the struggle to prove oneself worthy not only of life but of happiness as well.

You act as if God's so called cruelty is more evil then Nature simply by dint of the misunderstanding of men. But Nature is as demanding of us as the so called words of God. And this childish insistence of yours that Nature is better simply because you refuse to probe into Faith deeper then the failing of humans as a whole is well childish.
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I'm Buddhist but I'm not going to force my partner to convert to my religion lol, I couldn't care less what they believe in
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You act as if God's so called cruelty is more evil then Nature simply by dint of the misunderstanding of men. But Nature is as demanding of us as the so called words of God. And this childish insistence of yours that Nature is better simply because you refuse to probe into Faith deeper then the failing of humans as a whole is well childish.
Well now you made your own mess...
now you are assuming more then what I said.
I didn't say nature is less cruel.
Also I don't say faith and such is bad as just that made quite a few things happen.
But some beliefs are just....
Wish I could find the word I am looking for...
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I am Christian, Mormon to be exact, and the temple is very important to us, we believe in marriage after death so that's why we get married to the spouse in the temple, but of course you have to be Mormon so yes I do want my partner to be Mormon


I will not however shove it down anyones throat -unlike a lot of atheists do with their views that I have seen, cough-

so I put that info out front, that if ur gonna date me, before I spend a few years of my life with you, you need to know this and IF anything gets there , im not sacrificing that
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I'm agnostic so I don't care if a woman is an atheist or any religion. So long as it's a private matter for her (as in, she doesn't try to force me to convert to her way of thinking) it doesn't matter to me whether she takes comfort praying to God or a flying bowl of noodles.

Depending on the church I might even be alright with attending on Sundays if that sort of thing would make her happy, but again, only so long as she respects that I'd remain a devout agnostic.
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Ranwolf wrote:
You act as if God's so called cruelty is more evil then Nature simply by dint of the misunderstanding of men. But Nature is as demanding of us as the so called words of God. And this childish insistence of yours that Nature is better simply because you refuse to probe into Faith deeper then the failing of humans as a whole is well childish.
Well now you made your own mess...
now you are assuming more then what I said.
I didn't say nature is less cruel.
Also I don't say faith and such is bad as just that made quite a few things happen.
But some beliefs are just....
Wish I could find the word I am looking for...


The word you're looking for is complex or challenging. You think life and faith can be boiled down into plants eat corpses , you eat plants, you die, then you become plant food . And while that is certainly an aspect of life and faith that cannot be denied there is much more complexity. There is life in between all that.

And even insects have their own wants and desires. And humans, well we are beasts capable of philosophy, of good deeds, and of evil. We look at the stars and wonder, we kill each other over ideals of nation, morality, greed, misunderstanding, and yes indeed God.

We look around us , at Nature and know there is reason behind everything. Indeed some of us spend our entire lives proving that reason. We find out the process of natural selection , of molecules and atoms, of organ transplant and so forth.

Some of us ascribe this to our own grandeur, some choose to believe in a God ( whatever God, Goddess, or collection of spirits ya want) . Either way we do indeed move mountains in our time. We do indeed do great harm to ourselves and nature .

And it is this complexity and dichotomy that creates Faith. Because without it we are nothing. A person without Faith in at least themselves is, well suicidal. Wandering around with dead eyes and accomplishing nothing. Faith does not have to be in God necessarily but in something at the very least.

Complexity is what drives Faith but you want it as simple as the church of we are all plant food. And while that is our fate one day we all have to live with ourselves and each other. And especially with the world around us. Not all of us are good people, but not all of us are bad people either. And presuming belief is what automatically categorises us as bad people simply because other people who claimed the banner of faith have done bad things is the sign of a lazy mind.
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Usually I don't believe in God. This year last July I became Christian and I think I'd love to bring boyfriend in the church. Mm what can I say
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fredreload wrote:

Hi, I am an aetheist, so I'm curious as to know if you want your boyfriend or girlfriend to be Christian if you are a Christian, or aetheist if you are an aetheist, or it doesn't matter. And really what percent of American population is Christian?


Meaningless question. Only love matters. If you fall in love, it won't matter. I've got a buddy who's Muslim, and his wife is a staunch Catholic, married 22 years. My wife is a Japanese Lutheran and I'm southern Black Baptist. If someones kowtowing is too much for you, then you weren't in love. It's that simple. True love crushes all the stupid shit in our lives. Our actions of love speak louder than the fears in our hearts. Are you in love? or do you have fear? They cannot coexist. Fear kills love and vice versa.
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