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Post Reply Do you think the two party system will fail after this election? (U.S.A)
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we also need to get ride of money and work to better our self and expand our knowledge like in star trek that's the only way we can get ride of money which we need to do sooner rather than later. Money has to go its outdated
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Need free energy before you could ever consider getting rid of money
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lukedollo wrote:
but i don't understand what you meant by confusing a political movement with a tantrum? i think the only way to strip corruption from politics is to change the established parties and work in people that have some compassion in them, ultimately make lobbying illegal would be my own dream come true but that's another topic..


Most people are NOT Libertarians or card-carrying Green Party members, and they couldn't name one single party platform, even if Gary or Jill had one. Before you mentioned them, even I didn't know she had one.
(They usually don't, and Libertarians usually get laughed out of the big debates after "We're losing the war on drugs!")

Voters just want to make a big show about "The Democrats couldn't come up with a good enough anti-Trump candidate, so now I feel betrayed by the Two-Party System!", and want to be seen running to Something Else. Even if the Something Else doesn't work.
They don't know it doesn't work, they just want to be like the girl who goes out on a date with the class nerd just to make her boyfriend jealous: It doesn't improve the relationship, it gives the other guy a lot of false attention she'll regret later, and it's not worth the date she does go on just to prove her own point.
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Posted 11/1/16 , edited 11/2/16
The two party system failed the moment the idea of "compromise" became a sign of weakness.
Posted 11/1/16

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Voters just want to make a big show about "The Democrats couldn't come up with a good enough anti-Trump candidate, so now I feel betrayed by the Two-Party System!"




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RaisedInACult wrote:


Ejanss wrote:

Voters just want to make a big show about "The Democrats couldn't come up with a good enough anti-Trump candidate, so now I feel betrayed by the Two-Party System!"




(Well, that's not counting the relatively saner Republicans who weren't happy about who THEY got stuck with, either--And hey, whose fault was that?)
Posted 11/1/16 , edited 11/1/16
According to wikileaks, that one's partially Hillary's fault, too


And I've got to admit - without Wikileaks, Anonymous, or Weiner....what's his name here that keeps saying cankles is inevitable, he'd be right.

But ol cankles there never bet on all of her dirty laundry coming out,

especially since she's trying to pin most of what her and bill have been actively doing for the last god knows how long on him, but now we're seeing evidence that her and bill are the true charlatans most of us thought they were all these years.

people that remember how hillary treated bill's bitches, or how hillary treated other rape victims.


Without all that, her shirt would indeed look whiter than Trump's, to most people that dont already know what Arkancide is, anyway.
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RaisedInACult wrote:

According to wikileaks, that one's partially Hillary's fault, too


And I've got to admit - without Wikileaks, Anonymous, or Weiner....what's his name here that keeps saying cankles is inevitable, he'd be right.

But ol cankles there never bet on all of her dirty laundry coming out,

especially since she's trying to pin most of what her and bill have been actively doing for the last god knows how long on him, but now we're seeing evidence that her and bill are the true charlatans most of us thought they were all these years.

people that remember how hillary treated bill's bitches, or how hillary treated other rape victims.


Without all that, her shirt would indeed look whiter than Trump's, to most people that dont already know what Arkancide is, anyway.


She did conspire to pick her own opponent... Rigging the election, rigging, the press, rigging the rig. Right?
Posted 11/1/16
you got that right

but now the rats are abandoning the sinking ship...


latest rat to jump ship......wow, Chris Matthews? hahaha

http://www.tmn.today/2016/11/msnbcs-chris-matthews-makes-unbelievable-speech-must-watch/?source=TPI
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America's election system almost forces a two-party system to emerge, but it is possible for the Republican party to fall and be replaced by something else.
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Menthuthuyoupi wrote:

America's election system almost forces a two-party system to emerge


When it comes right down to it, it's difficult to impossible for human nature to really have a THIRD opinion about something--
You can have an opinion about something else than everyone else in the room is talking about, or you can secretly agree with one or the other and then make a big denial show that you aren't, but sooner or later, Tastes Great will always battle Less Filling.

You can toss a coin Heads or Tails, but there are very few instances in which it will land On Edge.


but it is possible for the Republican party to fall and be replaced by something else.


Y'know, we came thaaaaaaaat tantalizingly close to seeing the Republicans finally having their own red-state Culture-of-Good-Ol'-Anger rubbed mortifyingly in its own face to catastrophic effect--
For a while, anyway. And then everyone started talking about "e-mails", and it went back to being All Hillary's Fault again, for being married to Bill.

If it'd been Trump vs. Biden, we'd be seeing traumatic GOP chagrin the likes of which Mitt Romney never inflicted.
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The Democrats might break up if Trump gets elected due to corruption and scandals being investigated under Trump. One side would be bernie like and the rest would be regressives.

Trump might also break the republican party because more than half their party no longer Trust their party but they trust Trump. If the Neo-cons give up and Trump takes over completely this may not happen.
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Posted 11/1/16

Ejanss wrote:


lukedollo wrote:
but i don't understand what you meant by confusing a political movement with a tantrum? i think the only way to strip corruption from politics is to change the established parties and work in people that have some compassion in them, ultimately make lobbying illegal would be my own dream come true but that's another topic..


Voters just want to make a big show about "The Democrats couldn't come up with a good enough anti-Trump candidate, so now I feel betrayed by the Two-Party System!", and want to be seen running to Something Else. Even if the Something Else doesn't work.


They did come up with one, Bernie. However Hillary cheated and STOLE the election from Bernie. Now Trump has this presidency!
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The two-party system is the inevitable until we implement the alternative voting process, due to the spoiler effect. Take care not to mistake a party falling apart as the system falling apart, if one party falls, another will always take its place.
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RaisedInACult wrote:

Need free energy before you could ever consider getting rid of money


That's already possible with hydrogen fuel cells (and electrolysis to create more hydrogen fuel from water by using a simple electric current to split water molecules into both oxygen and hydrogen, and which can be done in your own home) and solar cells and wind turbines and steam turbines. You wouldn't need money to purchase the materials if you could find someone willing to barter for them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqjn3mup1So

What's truly necessary to live without money is property without annual taxation (aka: paying government rent) and without government regulation on what you can do with your own property. Grow your own food, dig a well for your own clean water supply, use timber from your land to build your own home, barter with neighbors for other necessary resources... Without government regulation anything and everything is possible to opt out of this current system of government enforced slavery. Otherwise, you're just labeled a homeless bum who gets locked up for loitering or trespassing or begging.

And I see the Libertarian party making huge gains due to the Republican party moving further and further away from the spirit of liberty that our Founding Fathers were inspired to build this nation on. The further you get from liberty, the closer you get to a totalitarian type of government where the individual is just another faceless number that keeps the machine turning "for the greater good". It's nothing more than slavery, and both main parties are trending that way (one with a much greater head-start than the other).

People are feeling more and more restless and irritated with the growing intrusion into their lives by government and are starting to push back in an attempt to reclaim a little bit of this lost freedom by being drawn to a candidate who voices their frustrations (whether they're lies or not). The Tea Party was a precursor to this seemingly unexpected rise of Trump, where those who understood where government was leading us was down a path of deeper servitude and lesser freedom stood up and spoke out first.

The Libertarian Party is swelling its ranks with those who are jumping ship from the Republican Party who are waking up to what one of the posters here said a few posts prior, that both parties are just two sides of the same coin and nothing is going to change with either of them running the show.

Those who are behind Bernie are feeling the same restlessness and frustration as those new Libertarians, but they are leaning toward more government control because they view capitalism as being the root cause of inequality and them having to work pointless, nowhere jobs in order to scrape by a living. If the Democratic Party doesn't do something to include these individual's ideals to fit within their party's, then I see a split coming in the near future for their party as well.

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