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Dark money is literally impossible to follow, it's in the definition... Trying to follow it is like trying to find a unicorn in Scotland.
Large corporations have agendas sure, and it is relatively easy to know what they are when they constantly tell the common public to do something.

Honestly, as someone said before, take whatever new stations tell you related to politics with a grain of salt. They (new stations) have been pushing whatever party their sponsor likes for years now, if people do not know this by now, then most likely they never will.
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Instant_Ramen_ wrote:


sundin13 wrote:

Who is "she"?


Hilary Clinton. I believe that she might be running for "Chief of Security" on Starfleet's Deep Space 9, or something.



So Hillary Clinton said "Hillary Clinton and Obama have been found to be the most trustworthy and transparent politicians ever"? If so, I'm not really sure why that is shocking xD
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Posted 29 days ago
Who did you quote from MSNBC?
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MSNBC is basically the liberal equivalent of Fox News what do you expect? The only reason I don't hold it in the same contempt is it makes no attempt to pretend it's being fair or balanced. It's a liberal shill station and a symptom of the polarization and pandering that has ruined American news media but at least it admits that to itself.

Though I wouldn't say Obama is especially untrustworthy. I agree Hillary being called the most trustworthy president ever is ridiculous, but I wouldn't rank Obama as being super untrustworthy.

We're going to be weeping for the days when we had this clean of a presidency in a very short while regardless of who wins, believe me.
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DarkBlade19 wrote:

Obama sure but I don't belive that hillary is trustworthy at all.


As far as I've seen, Obama hasn't been a terrible president. DO I agree with all of his actions and policies? NO.

However, I also acknowledge he hasn't been as bad as people have said he is.

I don't know, don't like him, but don't hate him, either.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


DarkBlade19 wrote:

Obama sure but I don't belive that hillary is trustworthy at all.


As far as I've seen, Obama hasn't been a terrible president. DO I agree with all of his actions and policies? NO.

However, I also acknowledge he hasn't been as bad as people have said he is.

I don't know, don't like him, but don't hate him, either.


I meant that Obama is/was a good president Imo but Hillary is kinda scary choice to be a president coz in worst case scenario Finland might be again some sort of Cold war chess piece.

I don't support trump.
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Posted 28 days ago
I wish someone unbiased could tell the truth...
Posted 28 days ago

Instant_Ramen_ wrote:

>Like I said, follow the money. If you only rely on my words and just that as the totality of information on this, sorry I cant be all that for you.

Follow the money to what? You didn't really explain what we're looking for here.

>You dont appear to understand how a large corporation works.

Get a load of this guy. Can you take a moment of your time to explain to me the mysteries of large corporation? Maybe some of us would like to be large corporations on this blessed day.


The burden of proof was on you... Is there a reason why you're attempting to shift the burden on to me?


I see they non longer teach reading comprehension in school. Follow the money to what....uhhhhdo you remember what you are even responding to, and that there are other messages in this conversation?

prior to 2000 there were something like 224 major media companies

now there are like 6 big ones.

corporate stuffz....look, shit flows down from the top. when the ones at the top decide to go in a direction, subordinates are compelled to go along with it. money flow money flow.

or are you trying to assert that a massive flow of money wont include an attached streamlining of information flow along with that money flow?

no, its I pay your bills, now go along.


No different than Ronald Reagan threatening states with pulling their highway funding if they did not set the speed limit to 55 mph....sure, you dont have to do it, but if you do then you will received zero federal highway funding.

see how that works? (of course that's a gov example, but it is a similar analog.)


but whatever, feel free to think that the TV has your best interests in mind.
Posted 28 days ago , edited 28 days ago

TheDimmLight wrote:

@RaisedInACult
Dark money is literally impossible to follow, it's in the definition... Trying to follow it is like trying to find a unicorn in Scotland.
Large corporations have agendas sure, and it is relatively easy to know what they are when they constantly tell the common public to do something.

Honestly, as someone said before, take whatever new stations tell you related to politics with a grain of salt. They (new stations) have been pushing whatever party their sponsor likes for years now, if people do not know this by now, then most likely they never will.


it does wind up being a difficult matter, when disinformation is the name of the game.

makes me recall one of the CIA directors from the early 80s, saying the CIA's job will be complete when everything the american people believe is false...but of course that wasnt spoken for a domestic audience...

as hard as dark money is to follow, the clintons are so sloppy, there's enough being found.

which is ironic, because they were careful, and had all the confidence of General Motti in episode IV.

(careful, yet still sloppy...because certain avenues were thought completely cut off, and hubris was where sloppiness came from.)
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Posted 28 days ago

DarkBlade19 wrote:

Obama sure but I don't belive that hillary is trustworthy at all.



You mean the guy that said
"if you like you doctor you can keep him"
if you like your plan you can keep it"
"I will not sign one law that adds to the deficit..

I literally could go all day.
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Posted 28 days ago
this is old news the media pumps their agenda from day one! all you have to do is research for yourself.
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interesting. Thanks for the information.
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