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Can we all just take a moment to agree that this is farking insane?



Its a political rally, not Desert Storm. The hell is up with the cops there?


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runec wrote:

Can we all just take a moment to agree that this is farking insane?



Its a political rally, not Desert Storm. The hell is up with the cops there?




Yeah. There's nothing right about that. I get that the Secret Service has to support/defend those who are running for the nation's president and all; however, this is the furthest of extremes. This is especially the case when the person didn't even have a gun.
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runec wrote:

Can we all just take a moment to agree that this is farking insane?



Its a political rally, not Desert Storm. The hell is up with the cops there?




Hooray for law enforcement getting army surplus wholesale, right?
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qwueri wrote:



Hooray for law enforcement getting army surplus wholesale, right?


Helmets and vests anyone can buy are not 'army surplus'

Furthermore law enforcement have always kept up with military technology






runec wrote:

Can we all just take a moment to agree that this is farking insane?



Its a political rally, not Desert Storm. The hell is up with the cops there?



Because tolerant and progressive leftists might try to assassinate Trump.
Why are you so terrified of law enforcement?
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Pro-Trump people are also insane.



-pro trump people are insane
-says 'I wish Trump had got killed'


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Posted 11/6/16 , edited 11/6/16

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Ryulightorb wrote:



Pro-Trump people are also insane.



-pro trump people are insane
-says 'I wish Trump had got killed'




It's not insane to wish someone who would ruin the lives of many and destroy other countries economies to be dead.

By your logic if i wished a terrorist or a criminal who caused damage to millions dead i would be insane?



Seriously if Trumps plans weren't insane enough to hurt me and other people in my country then i would say it would be insane to want him dead.

You can disagree if you want but Trump is disgusting.

If America votes him in i don't think i will ever be able to respect America as a country for a long time.

Get him to scrap his TPT leave plan and alot of lives won't have to suffer including mine and my families.
Im sorry that it's insane to want to look out for ones own country and family even if it meant wishing someone dead.

Am i meant to wish he lives and ruins my and other peoples lives instead? that is insane

Hillary and Trump are as bad as eachother but Hillary is atleast open to the TPT happening so its better if she wins and i hope she does that or Trump rethinks his stupid idea.
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Posted 11/6/16 , edited 11/6/16

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It's not insane to wish someone who would ruin the lives of many and destroy other countries economies to be dead.



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'Trump will ruin Australia economically!'
Meanwhile Chinese already own Australia economically and literally due to abuse of your immigration system.
And your leftist politicians let them.
Meanwhile Apex gangs run your streets and you aren't even legally allowed to defend yourself from them.
And your leftist politicians let them.
Meanwhile you have a school program ran by convicted pedophiles to teach children as young as 4 to be 'transgender'



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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Hooray for law enforcement getting army surplus wholesale, right?


Helmets and vests anyone can buy are not 'army surplus'

Furthermore law enforcement have always kept up with military technology



It's a fair bit more than same caliber muskets or the typical goods at an army surplus store.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1033_program

Thanks, Bill Clinton.
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It's a fair bit more than same caliber muskets or the typical goods at an army surplus store.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1033_program

Thanks, Bill Clinton.


Anyone can buy that stuff, not just police.
Personally I like the fact that police forces can buy APCs instead of the government just selling them to foreign countries or letting them rot in storage.
Non of those armored cars have weapons on them btw. They just transport and protect the people in them.

Its funny, extreme right wingers don't like 'militirized' police because they're afraid its the feds gearing up for gun grabs, and left wingers just don't seem to like the idea of black and scary armored cars.
The reality is these things save lives of Americans even if there may be abuse and waste in the 1033 program.
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Posted 11/6/16

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


It's not insane to wish someone who would ruin the lives of many and destroy other countries economies to be dead.



.


'Trump will ruin Australia economically!'
Meanwhile Chinese already own Australia economically and literally due to abuse of your immigration system.
And your leftist politicians let them.
Meanwhile Apex gangs run your streets and you aren't even legally allowed to defend yourself from them.
And your leftist politicians let them.
Meanwhile you have a school program ran by convicted pedophiles to teach children as young as 4 to be 'transgender'






Yes and we are dealing with the chinese.

Also Gun restriction is not something i want many people want it reformed

No one is teaching anyone to be transgender if they are they need to be removed.

Australia has it's faults yes but we are dealing with them.

I have every right to want whats best for my country and i don't like the ways Liberals have turned my country bad by selling out to the chinese and banning guns (even though banning guns has led to lower crime)

If it's insane to want the best for your country and family then sure im insane.

Australia is doing great though we have a great healthcare system and Disability system that will be fucked over if trump wins more so then it is now and without either people like me and other disabled people will be left without the money to afford to live.

We are dealing with our problems and trying to fix them meanwhile you guys let both Hillary and Trump be the last candidates and that's on you, you guys fucked up if Trump wins i have every reason to hate people in America who voted for him and hurt the lives of so many people.


Think what you will but Electing Trump is just as bad as electing hillary for America ....atleast that shitty Hillary won't impact other countries as negatively.


Then again i don't think i can expect anything from you since you like Trump and have no problem with him and you say "Transgender" as if it's just some made up term and fairytale which shows ignorance.

Posted 11/6/16 , edited 11/6/16

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Yes and we are dealing with the chinese.

Also Gun restriction is not something i want many people want it reformed

No one is teaching anyone to be transgender if they are they need to be removed.

Australia has it's faults yes but we are dealing with them.

I have every right to want whats best for my country and i don't like the ways Liberals have turned my country bad by selling out to the chinese and banning guns (even though banning guns has led to lower crime)

If it's insane to want the best for your country and family then sure im insane.

Australia is doing great though we have a great healthcare system and Disability system that will be fucked over if trump wins more so then it is now and without either people like me and other disabled people will be left without the money to afford to live.

We are dealing with our problems and trying to fix them meanwhile you guys let both Hillary and Trump be the last candidates and that's on you, you guys fucked up if Trump wins i have every reason to hate people in America who voted for him and hurt the lives of so many people.


Think what you will but Electing Trump is just as bad as electing hillary for America ....atleast that shitty Hillary won't impact other countries as negatively.


Then again i don't think i can expect anything from you since you like Trump and have no problem with him and you say "Transgender" as if it's just some made up term and fairytale which shows ignorance.



They must be running some big propaganda campaigns in Australia.

TPP and these "free trade" deals are fucking YOU, the plebe, an enriching the oligarchs. TPP needs to be destroyed along with NAFTA and all these asinine free trade deals.

We have this big trade imbalance because our government sold us out to oligarchs, enriched them to send all the production overseas, and americans lose jobs.

Read......Protection vs Corruption, which is worse for an economy.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-05/protectionism-vs-corruption-which-worse-economy
Posted 11/6/16

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


qwueri wrote:



Hooray for law enforcement getting army surplus wholesale, right?


Helmets and vests anyone can buy are not 'army surplus'

Furthermore law enforcement have always kept up with military technology






runec wrote:

Can we all just take a moment to agree that this is farking insane?



Its a political rally, not Desert Storm. The hell is up with the cops there?



Because tolerant and progressive leftists might try to assassinate Trump.
Why are you so terrified of law enforcement?


local PDs have been getting TONS of "surplus" where have you been???

bulletproof vests....you'd better go check your local laws on that one.

I'll agree with runec in that this preposterous militarization of our police IS fkn insane and should not have happened. do people remember what LEOs looked like before 911?

law enforcement has NOT "always kept up with military technology"

this went parabolic after 911!!!
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SWAT teams, and special response teams have always existed, and as times past, they got hardware appropriate to the threats of the times. When having to prepare for a hostage situation in a bank, or hotel, for example. The regular cops are all surrounding the place, the hostage negotiators are trying to deescalate the situation, and in the back ground, out of sight of the bad guys, was the SWAT or Special Response teams, with their heavy hardware, ready to respond.

It's nothing new, except that instead of getting gear, especially custom designed for themselves from defense contractors, they're shopping from an existing catalog of existing hardware from those same defense contractors....
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I'll agree with runec in that this preposterous militarization of our police IS fkn insane and should not have happened. do people remember what LEOs looked like before 911?



Bigger threats means you need better equipment.

Islamic terror is real. Civil unrest is real, look at Ferguson, look at Charlotte, Baltimore and Milwaukee.
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