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Posted 28 days ago

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i was looking through newegg black friday ad-- i guess this why what people used to prove that there are $400 pc.. but can it play games better than the current consoles?

2TB and 4TB SSDs are pretty pricey.. i think samsung 850 evo 2TB will cost $1600 ?

they will have the 1TB version on sale for $250 on Nov 24th

i think i'll get it for my PS4 SLIM-- i would like to get the pro but i don't see there's much difference + i need to buy a 4k to get full benefits so i'll bother

SATA III already came out before 2013.. so i don't see why they would not include it in the PS4

SSD speeds are up to 450-540MB/sec but having SATA II will limit the speed down to under 300MB/sec

but at least it will be faster than the standard 5400rpm hdd

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i was looking through newegg black friday ad-- i guess this why what people used to prove that there are $400 pc.. but can it play games better than the current consoles?



Of those that claim you can build a gaming PC at console prices (with at least console level experience), I have yet to see someone who doesn't conveniently omit the OS and the peripherals (KBM, monitor, speakers, and potentially a controller), which will nearly double the cost.

In the end, if someone wants console quality performance at console prices, then that person should just buy a console (unless they want to play RTS, or other PC exclusives).
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AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:

i was looking through newegg black friday ad-- i guess this why what people used to prove that there are $400 pc.. but can it play games better than the current consoles?



Of those that claim you can build a gaming PC at console prices (with at least console level experience), I have yet to see someone who doesn't conveniently omit the OS and the peripherals (KBM, monitor, speakers, and potentially a controller), which will nearly double the cost.

In the end, if someone wants console quality performance at console prices, then that person should just buy a console (unless they want to play RTS, or other PC exclusives).


like the tvs.. most might already have the monitors

PC gaming is superior - no question with that giving the price you will put into the system

$400 budget to build a gaming pc with the same level of ps4 pro graphic.. it's not possible

unless you can get the parts at bulk price (through known connections you have)'

now that the ps4 pro is out

the question is how much xbox Scorpio will cost ?

$400 is the sweet price point for a console. $500 and up is where you turn away console gamers

original PS3 and Xbox one prices were great examples

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Posted 27 days ago
I really don't know. I really just need it for FF14 and SRW right now.
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so they tested it and even though the PS4 Pro has SATA III.. it made little difference for gamers with SSDs ?

it does make a difference with stock ps4 vs stoack ps4 pro's drives though

PS4 Pro vs PS4 SSD Loading Times: Does SATA 3 Make A Difference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs7RNzEqOe4

SSDs are pretty fast but on constoles.. i guess there's a bottleneck somewhere.. CPU ?
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Pft aahah no

I'm happy with my PS4.
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Pft aahah no

I'm happy with my PS4.


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AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:

i was looking through newegg black friday ad-- i guess this why what people used to prove that there are $400 pc.. but can it play games better than the current consoles?



Of those that claim you can build a gaming PC at console prices (with at least console level experience), I have yet to see someone who doesn't conveniently omit the OS and the peripherals (KBM, monitor, speakers, and potentially a controller), which will nearly double the cost.

In the end, if someone wants console quality performance at console prices, then that person should just buy a console (unless they want to play RTS, or other PC exclusives).


I have a monster machine for gaming for about $1200 I could easily have cut it down to $984.
Now mine is also built to play anything that comes out at the highest for the next 4-5 years aswell.
The only thing I'll change it by replacing on my last two non SSd hardrives with another SSD.
But 2 SSD drives at the moment is fine.

I aready have a PS4 I won't be getting a new one until PS5.
Especially since my ps4 is for only a few reasons.

The Quantic games (remasters)
The Last Of Us remastered
Mirror's Edge pre-order
Persona 5.
FF15

As you can see it for basicially PS4 exclusive games only.
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new problems with the PS4 Pro for early adopters

http://gearnuke.com/lg-speaks-will-deal-ps4-pro-tv-connection-problems/

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And this is why I have a Samsung SUHD 4K for the PS4 Pro downstairs. I have a Sony 4K with HDR upstairs in the office when/if I decide to move it up there (currently being used by my base PS4).

I will say that I'm disappointed that the PSVR doesn't passover HDR, but that's more of an issue of having to change the source depending on what you want to play. I leave the PSVR not connected at all in most cases, as it's still a novelty item than anything else.
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And this is why I have a Samsung SUHD 4K for the PS4 Pro downstairs. I have a Sony 4K with HDR upstairs in the office when/if I decide to move it up there (currently being used by my base PS4).

I will say that I'm disappointed that the PSVR doesn't passover HDR, but that's more of an issue of having to change the source depending on what you want to play. I leave the PSVR not connected at all in most cases, as it's still a novelty item than anything else.


so there's no problem with the 2016 models ?

i don't know the full details on this issue.. but maybe some people think just because they have a 4K tv.. that they also have HDR ?

you also have PSVR ?

what's the typical time you spend on playing a VR game ?

i'm just curious how long a person can play a VR game
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so there's no problem with the 2016 models ?

i don't know the full details on this issue.. but maybe some people think just because they have a 4K tv.. that they also have HDR ?

you also have PSVR ?

what's the typical time you spend on playing a VR game ?

i'm just curious how long a person can play a VR game


It's not so much the "year" of the model but what features are part of the model lineup. There are more HDR 10/4K models in 2016 than last year. Most 2015 models were HDR 8 (which PS4 Pro will not register as having "HDR" because it requires HDR 10). On my Samsung television, I thought I had mistakenly bought an HDR 8 model when it was because you have to manually "activate" HDR for the HDMI source in question (the PS4 Pro).

And yeah, a lot of people think that if their TV was sold to them with 4K that they have HDR. The issue is that it depends on which version of HDR their TV has. This year's models should say something along the lines of "Ultra 4K Premium" or "4K HDR" (for Sony televisions, they decided not to use the "Premium" logo on their devices). It's a tricky scenario and it's because some companies are okay with following guidelines to obtain "certification" (the ability to use the "Premium" logo for HDR/4K as having met the required 10-bit gamut).

I have a PSVR, indeed. So far, the games are a bit along the lines of casual play - there are one or two that I have that you can easily sit down and play for an hour or two; just that most of the games for PSVR are 15-45 minute long "adventures" or "casual games". I knew that the games wouldn't be too spectacular at first glance, so it isn't much of a surprise. I am, however, eagerly waiting for Resident Evil 7 (which supports PSVR).
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There isn't enough difference to warrant upgrading from the system I already have. Since I'm not a videophile that would care about the difference between upscaled 4k and native 1080p, nor at all interested in PSVR, it seems pointless.


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PS4 Pro: Power Consumption, Heat & Noise Tested!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wNoCnPxTp4

the thing that i wanted from the PS4 pro was the SATA III since i think it will help cut down the loading time

but seeing the power consumption/heat and noise level on this thing

it's more efficient than the original ps4 ..

i think i'll just go with the ps4 slim--

plus the PS4 slims ar $250 on black friday some retailers will give you a $40-$75 gift card as well!

if i can not get a good PS4 slim bundle then i'll look for the pro if not guess i'll pass on the PS4 pro


In a comparative test on Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-ps4-pro-ssd-upgrade-does-sata-3-make-a-difference) the differences in load times were measurable in seconds countable on one hand, with exceptions only occurring on stock drives, but for as easy as it is to swap out the HDD, why would someone settle for stock load times instead of adding an SSD of SSHD? I guess, if 2-3 seconds is really important to you, SATA III is worth it.
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Of those that claim you can build a gaming PC at console prices (with at least console level experience), I have yet to see someone who doesn't conveniently omit the OS and the peripherals (KBM, monitor, speakers, and potentially a controller), which will nearly double the cost.

In the end, if someone wants console quality performance at console prices, then that person should just buy a console (unless they want to play RTS, or other PC exclusives).



Not to get into this but the odds of someone owning a PC monitor is just about as good as the odds of someone owning a T.V. with HDMI. You can easily buy a cheap mouse and keyboard <$15 shipped, OS can be bought on reddit for $20, and speakers are $10. Also whats the average life cycle of a console 5-8 years? PSN/XBL cost $40-50 for a year low end your looking at $200 the high end your facing $400 just for the privilege to play online. That's about the cost of the console, not to mention the price you pay for games. Most PC games can be had for $45 or less pretty much on launch. Just depends on where you look. Heck I seen pre-order deals for CoD infinite warfare... for like $30.

If your going to do a head to head cost it only makes since to include stuff like online membership, and the price difference in games. You can go out and buy a GTX 750ti for $100 and in virtually any pre-built box PC that will give you Xbox 1/PS4 level graphics and frame rates. PC gives you a lot of opinions. PC is just more versatile it has a larger entry cost but you make that money back with cheap games and free multiple player.
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ChuChuLain wrote:

Of those that claim you can build a gaming PC at console prices (with at least console level experience), I have yet to see someone who doesn't conveniently omit the OS and the peripherals (KBM, monitor, speakers, and potentially a controller), which will nearly double the cost.

In the end, if someone wants console quality performance at console prices, then that person should just buy a console (unless they want to play RTS, or other PC exclusives).



Not to get into this but the odds of someone owning a PC monitor is just about as good as the odds of someone owning a T.V. with HDMI. You can easily buy a cheap mouse and keyboard <$15 shipped, OS can be bought on reddit for $20, and speakers are $10. Also whats the average life cycle of a console 5-8 years? PSN/XBL cost $40-50 for a year low end your looking at $200 the high end your facing $400 just for the privilege to play online. That's about the cost of the console, not to mention the price you pay for games. Most PC games can be had for $45 or less pretty much on launch. Just depends on where you look. Heck I seen pre-order deals for CoD infinite warfare... for like $30.

If your going to do a head to head cost it only makes since to include stuff like online membership, and the price difference in games. You can go out and buy a GTX 750ti for $100 and in virtually any pre-built box PC that will give you Xbox 1/PS4 level graphics and frame rates. PC gives you a lot of opinions. PC is just more versatile it has a larger entry cost but you make that money back with cheap games and free multiple player.


"Free multiplayer" is a case-by-case scenario. Most MMOs that tout themselves as F2P are notorious for game-breaking microtransactions. The less derpy business models are subscription based, which either balances out with or casts a shadow on the PSN/Microsoft network subscriptions. A PC is, undoubtedly, more versatile since you can just keep upgrading as components reach EOL, but it pretty much ends up being six one way half-a-dozen the other. All of the savings you have in game costs (a standard $29.99 vs. $59.99, or thereabouts at launch) are eaten by the much shorter service life of the equipment. That isn't considering user competency, either; some (if not most) people won't have the skills to (1) build a computer from scratch, (2) maintain said computer for optimal performance, and (3) fix it if it breaks. Given that viruses and other unwanteds are several times more likely on a PC, a console is a better option if being used exclusively for gaming.
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