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If Trump wins we will get some real change. We can debate whether or not it will be good or bad, but things will definitely never be the same again.
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A thousand years of peace, booms in science, technology, and the economy. Negative percentage points in unemployment.
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A thousand years of peace, booms in science, technology, and the economy. Negative percentage points in unemployment.


In dreamland
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Oh, right. Forgot the fall of Communism, worldwide.
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There would be a civil war. There may even be one if Hillary wins. Guess we will have to watch and find out. I'll get the popcorn.
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I would make a thread about how I was completely wrong about the election

But of course I'm right about the election
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A part of me is praying that whoever wins gets impeached right away. But then that'll give us Tim Kaine or Mike Pence so another part of me wants them to stay in power but not have the freedom to destroy anything they plan on destroying. Hillary and Trump are the two most unpopular candidates in history. Whichever one of them runs for reelection is guaranteed to lose unless the other one or someone just as bad wins the opposing party's nomination again, and I doubt the democrats or republicans would be stupid enough to nominate their most hated candidate two elections in a row when someone they view as the Antichrist only won the first time because of it.
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A part of me is praying that whoever wins gets impeached right away. But then that'll give us Tim Kaine or Mike Pence so another part of me wants them to stay in power but not have the freedom to destroy anything they plan on destroying. Hillary and Trump are the two most unpopular candidates in history. Whichever one of them runs for reelection is guaranteed to lose unless the other one or someone just as bad wins the opposing party's nomination again, and I doubt the democrats or republicans would be stupid enough to nominate their most hated candidate two elections in a row when someone they view as the Antichrist only won the first time because of it.


Well technically a party can nominate someone to run against a president of their same party.
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Well technically a party can nominate someone to run against a president of their same party.


They can. But with how polarizing politicians are today, what are the odds of someone actually winning their party's nomination against a sitting president? I can't see someone voicing their opposition to a president of the same party succeeding much unless that president drops dead before the voting begins. Although with Hillary's fragile condition, I wouldn't be surprised...
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MysticGon wrote:

Well technically a party can nominate someone to run against a president of their same party.


They can. But with how polarizing politicians are today, what are the odds of someone actually winning their party's nomination against a sitting president? I can't see someone voicing their opposition to a president of the same party succeeding much unless that president drops dead before the voting begins. Although with Hillary's fragile condition, I wouldn't be surprised...


I can, considering how antiestablishmentarianism fueled the Sanders and Trump primary campaigns, all depends on how good or bad the economy is doing and how angry people are.
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If we are to believe his campaign promises, then:

1) Drastically tightened immigration controls. It will be harder to get a visa and enter/exit the country.

2) Surveillance and discrimination against Muslims. Possibly resulting in civil unrest which will just strengthen his policies.

3) Withdrawal of American troops from and closure of bases in foreign countries. This will severely cripple our military projection. Possible end of Pax Americana as a result. If we are lucky, it will be replaced by Pax Russiana or Pax Sinica v2.0. If we are not so lucky, the resulting power vacuum will end in WW3. It's anyone's guess how that one goes.

4) Possible reconciliation with Russia. Withdrawal from Ukraine and Syria.

5) Withdrawal from international treaties and trade agreements. Expect foreign goods to become more expensive. He'll probably make policies drastically favoring "made in the USA". Expect tit-for-tat retaliations from foreign countries, making it hard for businesses which sell internationally. Expect electronics in particularly to become EXTREMELY expensive. Will be interesting if we lose our access to rare earth metals and other "energy critical elements".

6) He'll "build a wall", but it will run out of funding before it gets off the ground. He wants to fund his wall with tariffs and taxes on remittance payments. Remittance payments will just go underground, and tariffs will be hampered by losses in trade. Instead, maybe he'll militarize the border? Still gotta figure out a way to deal with all of those tunnels.
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If we are to believe his campaign promises, then:

1) Drastically tightened immigration controls. It will be harder to get a visa and enter/exit the country.

2) Surveillance and discrimination against Muslims. Possibly resulting in civil unrest which will just strengthen his policies.

3) Withdrawal of American troops from and closure of bases in foreign countries. This will severely cripple our military projection. Possible end of Pax Americana as a result. If we are lucky, it will be replaced by Pax Russiana or Pax Sinica v2.0. If we are not so lucky, the resulting power vacuum will end in WW3. It's anyone's guess how that one goes.

4) Possible reconciliation with Russia. Withdrawal from Ukraine and Syria.

5) Withdrawal from international treaties and trade agreements. Expect foreign goods to become more expensive. He'll probably make policies drastically favoring "made in the USA". Expect tit-for-tat retaliations from foreign countries, making it hard for businesses which sell internationally. Expect electronics in particularly to become EXTREMELY expensive. Will be interesting if we lose our access to rare earth metals and other "energy critical elements".

6) He'll "build a wall", but it will run out of funding before it gets off the ground. He wants to fund his wall with tariffs and taxes on remittance payments. Remittance payments will just go underground, and tariffs will be hampered by losses in trade. Instead, maybe he'll militarize the border? Still gotta figure out a way to deal with all of those tunnels.


1) We should have an exit/entrance visa tracking system to catch over stayers and prevent criminals from bypassing the border, seems to be common sense to me. Look at the mess Europe is dealing with now, they had people on terrorist watch lists just walk into Europe unchecked and we all know how that ended. Is it me or do people forget that we grant about 1,000,000 green cards a year and have the highest foreign born population as a percentage of our population in almost a century. Most people are ok with current immigration levels as long as people follow the rules and get in line, I don't see it being politically viable to reduce immigration numbers as you seem to be implying.

2) Some call denying visas in zones where we cannot determine what side of the conflict they are on discrimination, I call it common sense. I will agree with you that unjust surveillance is wrong, especially against targeted groups and I am also bothered by it. That being said, since Dubya was in office the government has been spying on anyone they want to by rubber stamping warrants using kangaroo courts so we are probably already past that point.

3) Let Russia go bankrupt and build an empire. NeoCons are all so conservative until it comes to maintaining the empire. We are $20 trillion dollars in debt, we either cut back now or go the way of the Romans. Why we are defending countries like Saudi Arabia who give money to terrorist organizations and radical Islamic preachers is beyond me. Let them defend themselves, Team America World Police doesn't come free, I'm 100% on board with Trump on this one. This position was actually a Democratic one during the Bush years and a Republican one during the PaleoConservative era, but now both parties seem to blindly follow this ideology.

Our all too wise government frequently overthrows dictators, leaves a power vacuum and allows terrorists to gain a safe haven. We gave ISIS a place to thrive by leave Iraq a mess, gave money to the Taliban in Afghanistan to counter the Russias, made Libya hell on Earth, and gave the keys to power to many horrible Latin American dictators who violated basic human rights since they were easy to control. Our foreign policy track record for the last few decades is something we ought to be ashamed of.

4) I highly doubt we will ever become friends with the Russian government, but if we could keep out of each other's geopolitical goals and avoid an arms race and proxy wars I'm all for it.


5) Our recent trade deals have caused a massive amount of jobs to leave this country and help destroy the middle class. I agree that the time to start renegotiating is overdue. Democrats and Republicans act like that we are better off rolling off and continue being ripped of than actually fixing this broken system. I guess it is a matter of personal opinion, but we have tried the unquestionable enlightened neoliberalism the last few decades and it has benefited the upper middle class and the rich at the expensive of the rest of us.

6) Maybe, maybe not. If he taxes remittances at 10% or so, it will still be cheaper and safer to go through legal channels and you could still get the funding he wants for the wall, but perhaps a bit longer than originally planned. Personally, I am in agreement with you that the wall wouldn't be all that effective. What would make much more sense would be to crack down on work authorization violations and expired visas since it would be more cost effective and actually resolve the problem.
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Trump is like rolling several dices and hoping it's not horrible for your side. Hill is people saying "oh, god, anything but Trump, and I grew up in the 90's, so..."

Either way, there will possible be some rioting and the KKK might become active in terror ops again. I just don't want to lose my rights as an LGBT-citizen, tbh. I already have to be wary around my dad and his side of the family, which is bad enough...


awww...I'm sorry. Hopefully time actually Does heal you as the saying goes, and your family gains some sense.
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gornotck wrote:

A thousand years of peace, booms in science, technology, and the economy. Negative percentage points in unemployment.


In dreamland


Even dreamland seems like quite a stretch
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There would be a civil war. There may even be one if Hillary wins. Guess we will have to watch and find out. I'll get the popcorn. :D


yep...there's collateral damage either way .
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