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Posted 28 days ago

52infinity wrote:

Until the popular vote count for more than the electoral vote I won't.


You might want to rethink that. Politicians campaign in just a few key states now, it would be worse under a popular vote count.

I'll agree the electoral college should be fixed. My personal preference would be to change it from relying in on the House of Representatives for its makeup, and instead use the number of senators as the base number, with one additional vote per US territory. That would require candidates to appeal to a broader swath of the electorate and give states a better say in the process. It does have its flaws though.

There's also the fact that your state and local governments generally have initiatives and amendments to consider - your vote in the general election may not seem like much, but your vote in a local election/for an initiative could very likely have an impact.

Yes, I voted. Who I voted for and what initiatives I supported is no one's business except those who are counting the votes.



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Posted 28 days ago
This year I am not going to vote due to the fact that i am not 18 yet.
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Posted 28 days ago
I voted today. Now to watch the chaos with popcorn and torches on hand.
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Posted 28 days ago
Didn't vote and didn't care too much; this country deserves what it is getting.
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I just finished voting and it was rather crowded there. There were actually 5 or 6 political parties on the ballot.

By not voting, people allow their opponents to pick their leaders, that's a pretty lazy strategy.
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If we don't see a significant increase in 3rd party votes then America fails at democracy. America is too obsessed with it's lesser of 2 evils. What it needs is reform and this is the perfect chance. Still, I'm hearing people say they aren't voting because their vote doesn't count or their system is broken and they then do nothing to change that.

If there isn't a significant increase in 3rd party support then the American people are partially to blame for their terrible president. America needs to get rid of the electoral college system and alternative vote (which I'm sure I've read is supported by all major 3rd parties) is at least a step in the right direction. Not voting for reform is in itself voting to keep the current, clearly broken, system.
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Posted 27 days ago

Instant_Ramen_ wrote:

I microcampaigned, and convinced at least 300 elderly Asian women to vote Hillary, and it was all because Trump called me lazy.
You're welcome democrats.


Good job




-from another lazy cat
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Posted 27 days ago

Ryulightorb wrote:


redokami wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


redokami wrote:

yes, for trump

fight me


we don't have to fight you just lose respect for you xP


lose respect for me, I don't really care, I don't know you you don't know me


the ONLY reason im voting for him is because I cant stand Hillary, as I have said countless times here they are both shit


and you are going to lead your country to war xD


Hillary has already openly threatened war with Russia , what is the difference?
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Posted 27 days ago

redokami wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


redokami wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


redokami wrote:

yes, for trump

fight me


we don't have to fight you just lose respect for you xP


lose respect for me, I don't really care, I don't know you you don't know me


the ONLY reason im voting for him is because I cant stand Hillary, as I have said countless times here they are both shit


and you are going to lead your country to war xD


Hillary has already openly threatened war with Russia , what is the difference?


Nothing you get a war either way

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Yes, I'm going to vote. My Presidential vote in the State of Indiana won't count for much, but Evan Bayh has a good chance still to be senator. Two many Republicans have sold Indiana's infrastructure, disenfranchised it's unions, removed it's regulations, and handed tax breaks to undeserving corporations in the last 20 years. Fortunately, a failed improve the schools program was shot down by the voters in 2008 which intended to spend several million to rehab school buildings wholesale. Had it passed buildings many of which have gone through many refurbishings in the past several years would be rehabbed. Unfortunately, not one educational thing, not a book, nor a teacher's salary, nor a library, nor a computer was in the budget, just a boondoggle to construction company's. Had it gone through, many of those same schools would have been shut down due to lack of students or overhead cost from teachers salaries. Not conjecture, they did shut down, no building improvements would have kept them open.

As for the presidency itself. I can't understand how a man who's never had a kind word for a middle to lower class person in his entire life, has cheated or stiffed many of them who worked fairly for him and his building projects. A man who lives with ultra fine furniture and gold toilets, has a trophy wife and a general disdain for women, can garner support from white middle class americans whom he wouldn't give the time of day unless he'd get something back. I understand anti-government change voting. Until, he self destructed by withdrawing and returning, and picked a near zombie as a running mate I thought Ross Perot had a fantastic chance of winning the presidential election. He gave details on what he intended to do and it was to fix the economy and the deficit. I still voted for him, but he gave away his chance, I think many of the Trump following were also in that camp, but the choice at present could hardly measure up to Ross.

I'm a moderate by nature and care little about social issues as for the most part they are just their to stoke up the voting base of each party. I for instance think Roe V Wade could have been overturned by this court many times in the past 16 years, but no one pushes it that far because it would be lost as a political football once the law is changed. My problem with Republicans is fiscal responsibility. Had George Bush done two things in his administration, in my book he'd have gone down as the greatest president in modern history. One, not enter a war on the thin evidence presented to him after 9/11. Two, leave the tax rates alone for his entire two terms and apply the surplus every year to the national debt. The result after 8 years of doing that would have been to very nearly or maybe completely wipe out the national debt. Consider every time a surplus is applied, the surplus grows as debt interest payments go away. When all the debt is gone there's your next tax cut, a tax rebate, emergency fund, infrastructure maintenance fund, scientific research fund etc. Because he didn't and his deregulation created the bad home load crisis, he should go down as friend to rich people, but one of the poorest presidents in history.

While not exactly bursting at the seams, the economy is flourishing, and unemployment is at an 8 year low, and things look a lot better at the end of Obama's two terms. Consider, what good could have been done had the Republicans chose to work with him on at least the things they supported or wanted. Consider what good could have been done had they not spent their time repealing the ACA 200 times. If it's for political purposes one or two votes would get the veto on record and the opposition vote recorded. Obama seems to be the most tolerant president in history by all the obstruction he's gone through and still appear to be upbeat in his speeches and appearances. The Web can be a wonderful thing, but before you repeat that latest spam male about Clinton having sex with young sheep at farmer Brown's sheep ranch, consider using it to check the facts on what story's your being fed. You check out reviews on products and even if their are glowing 5 star reviews, if there' detailed negative reviews you know somethings is up. You should consider your web news in a similar light.
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Posted 27 days ago
already voted early. Now I just have to wait and hope my country doesn't decide to self-immolate
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Posted 27 days ago

pandrasb wrote:

I'm not voting shit. California is gonna be democrat no matter who I vote for. gonna sit back and watch.

Maybe when the get rid of the Electoral College, then I'll vote.


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Posted 27 days ago

davros_c wrote:

Yes, I'm going to vote. My Presidential vote in the State of Indiana won't count for much, but Evan Bayh has a good chance still to be senator. Two many Republicans have sold Indiana's infrastructure, disenfranchised it's unions, removed it's regulations, and handed tax breaks to undeserving corporations in the last 20 years. Fortunately, a failed improve the schools program was shot down by the voters in 2008 which intended to spend several million to rehab school buildings wholesale. Had it passed buildings many of which have gone through many refurbishings in the past several years would be rehabbed. Unfortunately, not one educational thing, not a book, nor a teacher's salary, nor a library, nor a computer was in the budget, just a boondoggle to construction company's. Had it gone through, many of those same schools would have been shut down due to lack of students or overhead cost from teachers salaries. Not conjecture, they did shut down, no building improvements would have kept them open.

As for the presidency itself. I can't understand how a man who's never had a kind word for a middle to lower class person in his entire life, has cheated or stiffed many of them who worked fairly for him and his building projects. A man who lives with ultra fine furniture and gold toilets, has a trophy wife and a general disdain for women, can garner support from white middle class americans whom he wouldn't give the time of day unless he'd get something back. I understand anti-government change voting. Until, he self destructed by withdrawing and returning, and picked a near zombie as a running mate I thought Ross Perot had a fantastic chance of winning the presidential election. He gave details on what he intended to do and it was to fix the economy and the deficit. I still voted for him, but he gave away his chance, I think many of the Trump following were also in that camp, but the choice at present could hardly measure up to Ross.

I'm a moderate by nature and care little about social issues as for the most part they are just their to stoke up the voting base of each party. I for instance think Roe V Wade could have been overturned by this court many times in the past 16 years, but no one pushes it that far because it would be lost as a political football once the law is changed. My problem with Republicans is fiscal responsibility. Had George Bush done two things in his administration, in my book he'd have gone down as the greatest president in modern history. One, not enter a war on the thin evidence presented to him after 9/11. Two, leave the tax rates alone for his entire two terms and apply the surplus every year to the national debt. The result after 8 years of doing that would have been to very nearly or maybe completely wipe out the national debt. Consider every time a surplus is applied, the surplus grows as debt interest payments go away. When all the debt is gone there's your next tax cut, a tax rebate, emergency fund, infrastructure maintenance fund, scientific research fund etc. Because he didn't and his deregulation created the bad home load crisis, he should go down as friend to rich people, but one of the poorest presidents in history.

While not exactly bursting at the seams, the economy is flourishing, and unemployment is at an 8 year low, and things look a lot better at the end of Obama's two terms. Consider, what good could have been done had the Republicans chose to work with him on at least the things they supported or wanted. Consider what good could have been done had they not spent their time repealing the ACA 200 times. If it's for political purposes one or two votes would get the veto on record and the opposition vote recorded. Obama seems to be the most tolerant president in history by all the obstruction he's gone through and still appear to be upbeat in his speeches and appearances. The Web can be a wonderful thing, but before you repeat that latest spam male about Clinton having sex with young sheep at farmer Brown's sheep ranch, consider using it to check the facts on what story's your being fed. You check out reviews on products and even if their are glowing 5 star reviews, if there' detailed negative reviews you know somethings is up. You should consider your web news in a similar light.


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Posted 27 days ago

Mugen417 wrote:

I'm not voting, shit's a waste of time


CT is one of the places its easiest to say this, because there's almost always massive voter fraud in waterbury, bridgeport, and new haven.

still aggravated that susan bycewicz found those bags of votes in bridgeport in 2008 after massively shorting the required number of paper ballots, declaring a ballot crisis and special ordering all these extra ballots, and then bags of around 15,000 votes found the next day helped Malloy win by less than 2000 votes for governor.

by hook or by crook when they need to do it, they do it.
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What he will do is select non-partisan judges and rescind the host of illegal executive orders Hussein Obama has inflicted on the country.


Non-partisan judges? Did you even watch the debates? I did.


"I feel that the justices that I am going to appoint — and I've named 20 of them — the justices that I'm going to appoint will be pro-life, they will have a conservative bent, they will be protecting the Second Amendment, they are great scholars in all cases, and they're people of tremendous respect."


Note: Transcript from vox.com


The problem with the theory behind a pro-life judge is that they are planning to use their political views to make judgements. That's not how conservative judges work. They literally protect the constitution. A pro-life judge is just a judge that doesn't believe in the supreme court "extending" the law since it is not the place of the court to do that.

A conservative judge is a non-partisan judge...
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