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My state is voting on raising the minimum wage this year

$15/hr minimum wage-- well.. prepare for the domino effect

Why Are Americans Working Fewer Hours?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGnfKM70iYc

mandatory health insurance
mandatory $15/hr
mandatory regulation (carbon tax?)
paid vacation time off ?
double taxation for businesses
etc..etc..

Why Do American Companies Leave America?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvMAV6dVKV4

the answers-- more outsourcing jobs and more robots ?

Will South Korea's robot revolution hurt American jobs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keAJBFsVfzw


you don't have to worry about a robot or kiosk machines needing paid time off or health insurance! and they can work non stops for hours-- talking about efficiency

$15/hr -- if people are getting 2x salary increase they should do the same for all other jobs as well

i don't see the point of people having master degree working at $15/hr

more strikes are needed 2x your current wage!
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People genuinely believe they will make significantly more money by simply raising their own wages and it is disgusting and I'm mad.

Oh well. Time to go back to work and make a decent paycheck that I earn and deserve.
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Posted 11/8/16 , edited 11/8/16

AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:

My state is voting on raising the minimum wage this year

$15/hr minimum wage-- well.. prepare for the domino effect

Why Are Americans Working Fewer Hours?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGnfKM70iYc

mandatory health insurance
mandatory $15/hr
mandatory regulation (carbon tax?)
paid vacation time off ?
double taxation for businesses
etc..etc..

Why Do American Companies Leave America?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvMAV6dVKV4

the answers-- more outsourcing jobs and more robots ?

Will South Korea's robot revolution hurt American jobs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keAJBFsVfzw


you don't have to worry about a robot or kiosk machines needing paid time off or health insurance! and they can work non stops for hours-- talking about efficiency

$15/hr -- if people are getting 2x salary increase they should do the same for all other jobs as well

i don't see the point of people having master degree working at $15/hr

more strikes are needed 2x your current wage!


Don't worry, when Hillary is elected this will be mandatory via federal executive order so you vote doesn't matter anyways.
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I find YouTube arguments to be a bit.. lacking in general. But, if you're worried about robots taking over, might be time to learn how to make and program robots. Might I suggest an Arduino board to get you started?

Trust me, it's a lot of fun. Not to mention, jobs in programming and robotics tend to pay well, minimum wage increase or no.
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Breaking even
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15 dollars an hour, but we really need a maximum wage/salary/earnings that would gradually lower to 300k because CEO pay is ridiculous and it's hurting those on the bottom. Money is like fat. Some is good but too much is a bad thing for you personally.
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While I'd have to say that I like my own salary, I know that living off of $7.50 per hour isn't something that can be done in America. I love how people think that just because they're not struggling with their 40k+ jobs that the minimum wage is the coming of the AntiChrist. $15 per hour may be a bit much, depending on the state's overall cost of living, though.

A federal raise of the minimum wage to $15 per hour would have a few repercussions but it's difficult to work three jobs just to make ends meet (been there, did that, it wasn't fun - and that was back in 2005). As for the idea that "if they can get a raise to $15 per hour, then why not double everyone's earnings" ... I know it's a bit of a jab at "how bad of an idea it is" but it isn't really comparable. If you break down my current salary, I'm making $47 per hour at my current position (ignoring that I'm salary and work more than 40 hours a week).

I actually feel like I do less (physically) than someone who works at McDonald's (seeing as I did the fast food thing up until I was out of college, I'm pretty certain I do less). I'd be okay if the company I work for lowered my wage to around $28 per hour if it meant that those who do more physical labour get $15-18 per hour. But that's the difference between myself and a lot of other people - I've made sacrifices to my own salary to ensure that others got more. My starting salary was $108k per year and I took a dive so that those I knew were around 20-30% underpaid for their position could get closer to what they're worth (plus, they were "my team" since I was the lead of the department). But this doesn't happen in the world of fast food or janitorial duties or ...... so on and so on.

They provide a service and should be allowed to work to live, not live to work. Working to live isn't a method of living that's any fun at all. Those who try to speak out against a higher minimum wage simply don't understand that. They were probably born to a middle-class family, had a bronze spoon stuck in their mouth the whole while, and don't believe that "lesser jobs" have importance to society. Or they are middle (or upper) class and feel that their own money is going to magically shrink because of the evil government trying to balance the cost of living to the minimum wage (hey wait, isn't that what the minimum wage is there to begin with?).
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Again I get paided $11.50 for working at cardshop so it's fine,
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Mostly foreign policies, we should revive the silk road, more people, more companies, and more workers->globalization


P.S. At least brings Taiwan's economy up = =, I'm getting paid 6 dollars an hour
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Most of the decent jobs already pay $15 an hour or more around here so the wage scale that they are talking about/voting on is pretty much moot.
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Well, giving is taking, what is the condition to get more people job? To make more money


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15 dollars an hour, but we really need a maximum wage/salary/earnings that would gradually lower to 300k because CEO pay is ridiculous and it's hurting those on the bottom. Money is like fat. Some is good but too much is a bad thing for you personally.


Why in the world would you take someone's money away when they have rightfully earned it? What would be anyone's incentive to create a business and make it huge and strive for large success if there's a limit on how much they're allowed to enjoy the spoils of their hard work?
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MopZ wrote:

15 dollars an hour, but we really need a maximum wage/salary/earnings that would gradually lower to 300k because CEO pay is ridiculous and it's hurting those on the bottom. Money is like fat. Some is good but too much is a bad thing for you personally.


Why in the world would you take someone's money away when they have rightfully earned it? What would be anyone's incentive to create a business and make it huge and strive for large success if there's a limit on how much they're allowed to enjoy the spoils of their hard work?


It's about how you would use that money. To increase the quality of life, or save it to get more money, buy a house, buy land. I haven't factor the spending into the equation
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MopZ wrote:

15 dollars an hour, but we really need a maximum wage/salary/earnings that would gradually lower to 300k because CEO pay is ridiculous and it's hurting those on the bottom. Money is like fat. Some is good but too much is a bad thing for you personally.


Why in the world would you take someone's money away when they have rightfully earned it? What would be anyone's incentive to create a business and make it huge and strive for large success if there's a limit on how much they're allowed to enjoy the spoils of their hard work?


Because, economics, that's where the majority of our living wages disappeared into, 300k is an incredibly OP nice salary, and eventually there is a point that more money doesn't become something that motivates a person to do a good job. It's also building or already created a noblesse-class so far removed from the average American in wealth, and that pushes the poor to become poorer as basic necessities and products are becoming harder and harder to afford for more and more people as well as creating a large social divide between the classes. And, more money in stagnant, small/low circulating pools. A maximum wage/salary also prevents them from upping the top-earners salaries at the same time. It's a loss for the rich but a massive QoL increase for the bottom earners, which is better for the economy and breeds the middle-class earners (the real money spenders). Extremes will often be no better than each other with differences only in the coat of paint. The super-rich are as good for the economy as the super-poor, IMHO. In short: there is a limit to everything. It's something that has been proven countless times to be good for the economy. Just look at Henry Ford's motor company when they implemented it.

Which is why I said that it has to be gradually lowered. There is literally no way that anyone in their right minds would accept a massive drop in their salaries in a short amount of time. It would have to be a decade or a score, but hopefully ones personal earnings will one day be separated from how successfully a business is presumed to be.
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Ocale wrote:


MopZ wrote:

15 dollars an hour, but we really need a maximum wage/salary/earnings that would gradually lower to 300k because CEO pay is ridiculous and it's hurting those on the bottom. Money is like fat. Some is good but too much is a bad thing for you personally.


Why in the world would you take someone's money away when they have rightfully earned it? What would be anyone's incentive to create a business and make it huge and strive for large success if there's a limit on how much they're allowed to enjoy the spoils of their hard work?


Because, economics, that's where the majority of our living wages disappeared into, 300k is an incredibly OP nice salary, and eventually there is a point that more money doesn't become something that motivates a person to do a good job. It's also building or already created a noblesse-class so far removed from the average American in wealth, and that pushes the poor to become poorer as basic necessities and products are becoming harder and harder to afford for more and more people as well as creating a large social divide between the classes. And, more money in stagnant, small/low circulating pools. A maximum wage/salary also prevents them from upping the top-earners salaries at the same time. It's a loss for the rich but a massive QoL increase for the bottom earners, which is better for the economy and breeds the middle-class earners (the real money spenders). Extremes will often be no better than each other with differences only in the coat of paint. The super-rich are as good for the economy as the super-poor, IMHO. In short: there is a limit to everything. It's something that has been proven countless times to be good for the economy. Just look at Henry Ford's motor company when they implemented it.

Which is why I said that it has to be gradually lowered. There is literally no way that anyone in their right minds would accept a massive drop in their salaries in a short amount of time. It would have to be a decade or a score, but hopefully ones personal earnings will one day be separated from how successfully a business is presumed to be.


I'm not educated in economics, so I can't argue too much on that front, all I know is what I think is "right".

But if there was that kind of cap, how could investors invests in businesses to make them grow? I just watched an episode of Shark Tank, and someone got an offer for 400k. In one transaction, someone spent more money than your proposed maximum yearly salary. How would anyone be able to invest in or outright buy companies if they don't earn as much as the company is worth? I just don't understand, but maybe this would be getting too off topic.
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