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How is the guy who ran against the establishment - drew attention to the corrupt system that he got a birds eye view of due to his wealth - actually winning the presidency a bad thing?

Why would people want to continue the current downward spiral we've been in for decades?

People can literally only question Donald Trump's character, and they only do so because the news says he's so, SO bad. Yet the Apprentice chick that accused him of sexual misconduct dropped her charges and admitted that she was paid $500,000 by Gloria Allred to accuse him.

The woman who says he raped her when she was 13 dropped her charges as well, when it was time to reveal her name to the public.

What should this tell any sensible person out there? That's only the tip of the iceberg - but look, regardless of what you think of his character, doing that kind of shit is WRONG and it's the definition of corrupt. People have admitted they were paid money to give people body blows at Trump rallies to instigate violence and make him look like some kind of anarchist - that is also EXTREMELY corrupt no matter how lofty your goals are. It's wrong and it's corrupt and there's no defending it!

I've noticed something, almost ALL of the people that dislike Donald Trump have not even listened to one of his speeches. They heard something on the news, probably when they happened to be walking by the TV or radio - and they jumped right on the wagon. They don't actually know about anything that he's said! That is also wrong - in the absence of real proof, to assume things like this about a man running for the president of the United States.

A lot of people who were opposed to Trump praised his acceptance speech because it wasn't what they expected - and that's because it's about the only thing they've heard from the guy. Everything else is made to sound extremely bad when you hear it from the mainstream media - it's so clearly biased and was so clearly stacked against him that I don't exactly blame people for getting the impression that he's some demon, but I DO BLAME THEM for not even listening to one of his speeches. THIS WAS RAMPANT THIS YEAR. People are actually freaking out thinking they're going to be kicked out of the US because they're Canadian, or black. What the hell? He never said anything remotely like that and if people listened to him they would be well aware that he didn't. Just like he didn't say anything racist.

Seriously, if you're not being responsible and doing your homework, why would someone be opinionated about that matter? The lies were stacked against him - the evidence was on his side, bottom line.

Now if we're going to talk evidence - lets look into all the evidence about Hillary. I'm not even touching that one, I have a job to get to... I hope at least one of you who have not go back and listen to a Trump speech or two.... I'm willing to bet it's not going to be what you expect.


AMEN to all this!!!

I found it weird how many women were accusing him of sexual harassment until now, why they didn't speak before? and look, it was all a lie. Despicable!



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kanye 2020
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yes it will
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Posted 11/9/16

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OnePunchJoJo wrote:

EVERYONE PLEASE CALM THE F**K DOWN, GO TO A GYM, WORKOUT, THEN GO HOME EAT SOME GOOD MOTHERF**KING FOOD WHILE WATCHING DRAGON BALL SUPER OR (Insert your anime of choice). WHO'S WITH ME?


I watched Nanbaka and had mac'n'cheese


Sounds like a blast, brah.
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I think so I have a belief that before things can get better they need to get worse so people are exposed to the problem and motivated to fix it no matter what. My only worry is that things can still get worse.
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VeggyZ wrote:

How is the guy who ran against the establishment - drew attention to the corrupt system that he got a birds eye view of due to his wealth - actually winning the presidency a bad thing?

[etc etc.]
funny part is people believing he's anti-establishment

Sanders was anti-establishment (hence why he was booted)

as for criticizing Trump? goes way beyond his character. it'd be a travesty of your "justice" system if Hilary were convicted (though of course I'd feel no sympathy for that dumb bitch, she got Sanders kicked out & Trump elected after all) whereas Trump remained free but then again this rigged election was also a travesty to begin with

and the women who dropped their charges - wise decision not to piss off a business magnate who can make you disappear in a jiffy if he wants to - especially when it becomes clear he's about to gain absolute power on top of his already considerable corporate power
picking on far less powerful celebrities like Bill Cosby is a safer bet
(strange thing is, when the defendant is a commoner then the neocons are prompt to apply "presumption of guilt" but when the accused is part of an elite class like the SS or the corporate honchos then it's "presumption of innocence")
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RIP United States
07/04/1776 - 11/08/2016
You had a good run

nonsense - it has simply evolved into the Motherland, US-SR
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Nah. I have come to the definitive conclusion that the American people are stupid beyond repair. I don't mean every single person. I have met a number of intelligent people but the faceless mass of the public and the trends of their decisions are just so self destructive and devoid of critical thought or self awareness.

I have learned one important less. Though I have been the most cynical that I could possibly be I am still too optimistic for this country. To me the election was a lost cause soon as Bernie Sanders fell. I had hoped that we would see one of the 2 major 3rd parties get at least 5% of the vote somewhere so that they would be considered major parties in the next election but no. No even that failed tremendously.

TBH I think this election has beaten me so bad that I doubt i will vote anymore. If a decent candidate gets through I will consider it. I just envy the poor sods who are able to sedate themselves in whatever gives their life meaning without a care in the world for the actual policies. I wish that I could at some point become someone who graciously accepts the powerless nature of our political voices and passively accept that things don't normally get better. Education isn't getting reformed. College won't get cheaper. Debt won't be settled for anyone who isn't a millionaire. We will continue to murder people across the world just because we can. We will continue to sell trillions of dollars in mass military grade equipment around the same world. We won't see a freedom from racism, sexism or bigotry. It will persist. Maybe we can get to the point where we don't care about it anymore or that it doesn't affect most people most of the time. Drinking helps. I drink and forget. Then I fall asleep. I have to get up early in the morning for work and I have to rush to get ready. I am distracted by the fact that I need coffee to keep me going. Don't think about the big problems but rather just work on the codes. Look another ticket in someone needs their monitor replaced. Oh, another ticket look at that someone can't remember their password and they are locked out and needs someone to reset it. Oh, out of coffee. Better get more coffee. Sweet its almost time for lunch break. What will I get? Something at the cafe or do I go out again? Vending machine is good. Nice, almost time to clock out and go home. Get home kick off shoes. Lets check facebook, crunchyroll and TV. Any of the shows have a distracting new episode or topic? Log onto steam or the PS4 and play overwatch. Grab a bottle of Jameson start to drink. The cycle continues.
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Yorutenchi wrote:To me the election was a lost cause soon as Bernie Sanders fell
same here (from an outsider's POV) that dumb bitch sealed her party's fate & basically got Trump elected


TBH I think this election has beaten me so bad that I doubt i will vote anymore. If a decent candidate gets through I will consider it.
any chance Bernie Sanders could return despite his age? a man of integrity would be a good change (polar opposite of Trump. lol)

he's even supposed to be relatively pro-gun rights so if he can pick a vice-president who shares his libertarian views he'd have a good chance no?
(any one in 2020 will most likely beat Trump since Trump's term will have been a catastrophe - assuming of course the elections aren't rigged or that Trump doesn't declare martial law to postpone elections indefinitely)

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Yorutenchi wrote:To me the election was a lost cause soon as Bernie Sanders fell
same here (from an outsider's POV)


TBH I think this election has beaten me so bad that I doubt i will vote anymore. If a decent candidate gets through I will consider it.
any chance Bernie Sanders could return despite his age? a man of integrity would be a good change (polar opposite of Trump. lol)

he's even supposed to be relatively pro-gun rights so if he can pick a vice-president who shares his libertarian views he'd have a good chance no?
(any one in 2020 will most likely beat Trump since Trump's term will have been a catastrophe - assuming of course the elections aren't rigged or that Trump doesn't declare martial law to postpone elections indefinitely)



Nah. He would be 79 years old at that time. I was actually a little concerned about his age this time. I didn't know if he would live through his whole 8 year run. I did for the longest time love Elizabeth Warren. She sold out like a scrub but I would consider voting for her if she stuck to her guns when she ran.

Speaking of guns I, despite having many progressive views, don't think the ban on guns is the issue. If guns were the issue with crime we wold see a proportional change in the amount of gun crime to the amount of guns owned by a population. However what we see is a direct link with crime and poverty. Low economic regions provide the most crime. This is regardless of which state you are in, what color you are and the gun laws. Bernie knows this. He has a state that loves them some guns but has low poverty. Thus they have low gun related crime.

The goal isn't to reduce gun related crime but violent crime. Secondly gun control proposed does not significantly impact the mechanism and scenarios that have gone into mass shootings. It would be aimed and lowering shooting related deaths in day to day crime.
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Speaking of guns I, despite having many progressive views, don't think the ban on guns is the issue. If guns were the issue with crime we wold see a proportional change in the amount of gun crime to the amount of guns owned by a population. However what we see is a direct link with crime and poverty. Low economic regions provide the most crime. This is regardless of which state you are in, what color you are and the gun laws. Bernie knows this. He has a state that loves them some guns but has low poverty. Thus they have low gun related crime.

The goal isn't to reduce gun related crime but violent crime. Secondly gun control proposed does not significantly impact the mechanism and scenarios that have gone into mass shootings. It would be aimed and lowering shooting related deaths in day to day crime.
huh I know
hence why I mentioned his pro-gun-rights stance which makes him more of an all-round libertarian (since he supports all civil liberties including self-defence) & should give him a far better chance at an election than any other Democrat no?

and if his age is a concern can't he just pick a good loyal vice-president who shares all his views & will continue his legacy if he were to be "out of commission"?

surely there must be several other pro-gun Democrats? (I know there are anti-gun Republicans)


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Nah the American people are dumb, arrogant and ignorant. I asked people back in 2008 what do they expect Obama to do and what can he do? And all they gave me was their stupid motto "Hope And Change." Now I ask the same dumb asses and they gave me the same stupid slogans "Make America Great Again." without even offering much of a concrete reason as to how? when? and why?. Those dumb asses pick their presidents the same way they chow down on food and pick their clothes...... on a whim. Its all very reactionary.

It wasn't that long ago that the far right was acting up and polluting this country with their nonsense and it was just recently that we have a far left that is hell bent on inciting racial violence. so yeah 4 yrs from now this nation will still be divided and we'll either be electing corrupt or incompetent people. God i love this country but man do i hate the people.
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The great election of Kayne West vs Curt Shilling should be interesting
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Yorutenchi wrote:

Speaking of guns I, despite having many progressive views, don't think the ban on guns is the issue. If guns were the issue with crime we wold see a proportional change in the amount of gun crime to the amount of guns owned by a population. However what we see is a direct link with crime and poverty. Low economic regions provide the most crime. This is regardless of which state you are in, what color you are and the gun laws. Bernie knows this. He has a state that loves them some guns but has low poverty. Thus they have low gun related crime.

The goal isn't to reduce gun related crime but violent crime. Secondly gun control proposed does not significantly impact the mechanism and scenarios that have gone into mass shootings. It would be aimed and lowering shooting related deaths in day to day crime.
huh I know
hence why I mentioned his pro-gun-rights stance which makes him more of an all-round libertarian (since he supports all civil liberties including self-defence) & should give him a far better chance at an election than any other Democrat no?

and if his age is a concern can't he just pick a good loyal vice-president who shares all his views & will continue his legacy if he were to be "out of commission"?

surely there must be several other pro-gun Democrats? (I know there are anti-gun Republicans)




Sorry I must have misread you the first time.

Probably want to find someone who is a strong independent. I wish he would find a protege or a whole group of them. Berniecrats had a nice ring to it. A few proclaimed Bernicrats got into congress.

I dislike the way our politics work now. Historically it seemed at least a bit better. The reason why you cannot nominate yourself is rooted in the fact that they wanted to seek out good people to lead us not greedy people to fight to lead us.

Silas Wright said
"The office should seek the man, not man the office." and I agree with that.
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