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I had been right about a whole lot of things. I made predictions in tech trends that turned out to right when people inside the company I worked for made fun of me for those predictions. I proved myself to be correct when others were wrong in that regard

Looks like I really should just stick to technology.

I don't know the first thing about elections, about politics.

My calculus regarding this election was simple, and in hindsight, over-simplistic.

Wrong assumptions:

A) Far more people are disgusted and angry at Trump, therefore Hillary. Incorrect.

B) Far more people are afraid of a Trump presidency, therefore Hillary. Incorrect.

I counted on the trifecta of disgust, anger, and fear. Wrong.

I'm going to be overseas for 3 weeks, and counting on a Hillary win means I didn't do any currency exchange yet. This is going to literally cost me, both in exchange for cash at the airports and ATM withdrawals while I'm out of country.

Well, that's the way the cookie crumbles.

So Hillary is not going to be the next president. I'll write "Who cares, Hillary's going to be next president anyways" on a piece of bread, and eat it.

edit: The exchange rate of dollar versus the currency I need (not Mexico Peso...........) actually rose, so add that to the list of things I was wrong about the election
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You know what they say about making assumptions.
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Math matters little. What you need to do is talk to real people around the US. And by real people, I don't mean the people you meet on like minded internet sites. You need to speak with those living in small towns, who see the one main industry in their town closing up shop, moving overseas and everyone losing their source of income. Not once did Hillary ever say how she would combat this. She was too focused on telling everyone to vote for her because she wasn't Trump.

Hillary lost in the regions of the US where people are dependent on one or two large businesses in their town.
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At this point I'm hoping she'll still win the electoral college, this is literally what it was made for. They usually align themselves with the popular vote but its their job to cast their vote for whoever they want to run the country. It was made cause the big wigs didn't want the idiotic people of our country electing someone unqualified in the 1800's and its just as needed now. Because the country's citizens are still idiots. I'm ashamed to be an american today even if a miracle happens and Hillary wins.
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A lot of people were wrong
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Akage-chan wrote:

Math matters little. What you need to do is talk to real people around the US. And by real people, I don't mean the people you meet on like minded internet sites. You need to speak with those living in small towns, who see the one main industry in their town closing up shop, moving overseas and everyone losing their source of income. Not once did Hillary ever say how she would combat this. She was too focused on telling everyone to vote for her because she wasn't Trump.

Hillary lost in the regions of the US where people are dependent on one or two large businesses in their town.


News organizations got a black eye. There goes their polls.

What you said about the disaffected is true.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/04/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html
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See it this way: Americans didn't want Clinton, but the world didn't want Trump.
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nanikore2 wrote:


My calculus regarding this election was simple, and in hindsight, over-simplistic.

Wrong assumptions:

A) Far more people are disgusted and angry at Hillary, therefore Trump. Correct.

B) Far more people are afraid of a Hillary presidency, therefore Trump. Correct.

I counted on the trifecta of disgust, anger, and fear. Correct.

I'm going to be overseas for 3 weeks, and counting on a Hillary win means I didn't do any currency exchange yet. This is going to literally cost me, both in exchange for cash at the airports and ATM withdrawals while I'm out of country.


You did your calculus right but you accidentally put a - sign in there when it should have been a positive. I fixed your calculations as they were all the reverse of what they would have been without that negative sign.

Stock markets should rise on a Trump presidency. It was well known in the investment community to sell if you think Hillary would win.
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ushikaa wrote:

At this point I'm hoping she'll still win the electoral college, this is literally what it was made for. They usually align themselves with the popular vote but its their job to cast their vote for whoever they want to run the country. It was made cause the big wigs didn't want the idiotic people of our country electing someone unqualified in the 1800's and its just as needed now. Because the country's citizens are still idiots. I'm ashamed to be an american today even if a miracle happens and Hillary wins.


Trump won Pennsylvania. He has 264 electoral votes. He has to lose 3 states he is ahead in to lose. Trump is also ahead in the popular votes.
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Well this is what happens when you underestimate the power of meme magic.

Moral of the story:Dont fuck with the Deplorable's.
Now accept a slightly condescending Mugi as your punishment
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i knew trump would kick clinton's butt.

at least now we won't have to be bothers with the clintons again.

ding dong the witch is gone!
Which ole witch?
The Clinton witch!

Now will trump be better?
Not.
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Well at least America won't be enemies with Russia now.
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chuyaka wrote:

See it this way: Americans didn't want Clinton, but the world didn't want Trump.


The world wanted Trump more than you're being honest with.

I see that you are from Mexico. I'm going to be straight up with you, you fear the immigration policies he plans, as if it is targeted at your ethnicity.

It isn't. Either fix YOUR country and stop coming to ours, or expect to get shipped back for illegal immigration.

And on the matter of LEGAL immigration, I fully support streamlining that process. However, I don't support allowing illegal immigrants taking advantage of the system.

I live in Texas, and I see it.

Also, I have a few Norwegian friends who primarily support Trump.

Russia supports Trump.

So Mexico fears Trump's policies? GOOD. Unfuck your country instead of bringing your fucked up shit to ours.

Again, legal immigration is fine, and encouraged by me.... if you are dodging the system to come into the US, perhaps you should get the fuck out. Just saying.
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From Texas here and agree with you 100%
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chuyaka wrote:

See it this way: Americans didn't want Clinton, but the world didn't want Trump.


The world wanted Trump more than you're being honest with.

I see that you are from Mexico. I'm going to be straight up with you, you fear the immigration policies he plans, as if it is targeted at your ethnicity.

It isn't. Either fix YOUR country and stop coming to ours, or expect to get shipped back for illegal immigration.

And on the matter of LEGAL immigration, I fully support streamlining that process. However, I don't support allowing illegal immigrants taking advantage of the system.

I live in Texas, and I see it.

Also, I have a few Norwegian friends who primarily support Trump.

Russia supports Trump.

So Mexico fears Trump's policies? GOOD. Unfuck your country instead of bringing your fucked up shit to ours.

Again, legal immigration is fine, and encouraged by me.... if you are dodging the system to come into the US, perhaps you should get the fuck out. Just saying.


This isn't about my country. The problem is that Trump doesn't behave like a proper head of state, a head of state should be an example to the people and he only wants to break things apart. He wants to break relationships between countries and segregate people. He is pretty much giving his back to globalization, making populism appealing and making America partially fascist.
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