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Would you rather enjoy eating, or be ripped/skinny/lean?
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Posted 25 days ago
They're not mutually exclusive
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Some people don't have much of a choice.

As of now, I'm considered obese, though far from morbidly, and only just over that line.

BUT, I exercise as much as I can, given the physical limitation from old injuries. I also watch what I eat. I probably eat around 1800 calories, max, per day.

When I was a young guy, I was in the Marine Corps, exercised extensively, and still had trouble making weigh-ins. Hell, at one point, I was forced to exercise twice per day, because I was considered too heavy.

Point being, there are some people who truly do it to themselves, then there are others who will always have a little extra weight regardless of how hard they work.

BUT, good news. if we're ever in a starvation situation, you'll be dead long before I will. Cheers.
Posted 25 days ago

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Some people don't have much of a choice.

As of now, I'm considered obese, though far from morbidly, and only just over that line.

BUT, I exercise as much as I can, given the physical limitation from old injuries. I also watch what I eat. I probably eat around 1800 calories, max, per day.

When I was a young guy, I was in the Marine Corps, exercised extensively, and still had trouble making weigh-ins. Hell, at one point, I was forced to exercise twice per day, because I was considered too heavy.

Point being, there are some people who truly do it to themselves, then there are others who will always have a little extra weight regardless of how hard they work.

BUT, good news. if we're ever in a starvation situation, you'll be dead long before I will. Cheers.


If your goal is strictly to get super lean while maintaining decent size and fullness, then I'd recommend Tren and Clen. I started using them back when I was 17, and I practically destroyed majority of guys in wrestling. Football, on the other hand, was a completely different game. The football players are either on something, or weighed around 300lb and 6'6ish. Health wise? I'd not recommend going the steroid route like I did, but if you do, make sure you do your research. Don't just take my word for it. Actually take the time to research on what different chemical in steroid does to the body, and then you can make your own decision there.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


Some people don't have much of a choice.

As of now, I'm considered obese, though far from morbidly, and only just over that line.

BUT, I exercise as much as I can, given the physical limitation from old injuries. I also watch what I eat. I probably eat around 1800 calories, max, per day.

When I was a young guy, I was in the Marine Corps, exercised extensively, and still had trouble making weigh-ins. Hell, at one point, I was forced to exercise twice per day, because I was considered too heavy.

Point being, there are some people who truly do it to themselves, then there are others who will always have a little extra weight regardless of how hard they work.

BUT, good news. if we're ever in a starvation situation, you'll be dead long before I will. Cheers.


If your goal is strictly to get super lean while maintaining decent size and fullness, then I'd recommend Tren and Clen. I started using them back when I was 17, and I practically destroyed majority of guys in wrestling. Football, on the other hand, was a completely different game. The football players are either on something, or weighed around 300lb and 6'6ish. Health wise? I'd not recommend going the steroid route like I did, but if you do, make sure you do your research. Don't just take my word for it. Actually take the time to research on what different chemical in steroid does to the body, and then you can make your own decision there.


Nah, man. I'm happy with who I am, honestly.

I certainly don't want to hurt my health for the appearance of fitness. I've got my blood pressure under control and I'm focused on a few other health related goals.

I'm married and have kids. My wife still enjoys banging me. *shrug* I'm not sweating it.

I was only pointing out that for some people diet and exercise aren't the universal solutions, and people need to acknowledge how fortunate they are when they can look appealing easily.

Trust me when I say I probably exercised more intensely than most, and was still a larger fellow. Even when I was really light, at 165 lbs, I looked really sick and my ribs stuck out.
Posted 25 days ago

HolyDrumstick wrote:


OnePunchJoJo wrote:


HolyDrumstick wrote:


Some people don't have much of a choice.

As of now, I'm considered obese, though far from morbidly, and only just over that line.

BUT, I exercise as much as I can, given the physical limitation from old injuries. I also watch what I eat. I probably eat around 1800 calories, max, per day.

When I was a young guy, I was in the Marine Corps, exercised extensively, and still had trouble making weigh-ins. Hell, at one point, I was forced to exercise twice per day, because I was considered too heavy.

Point being, there are some people who truly do it to themselves, then there are others who will always have a little extra weight regardless of how hard they work.

BUT, good news. if we're ever in a starvation situation, you'll be dead long before I will. Cheers.


If your goal is strictly to get super lean while maintaining decent size and fullness, then I'd recommend Tren and Clen. I started using them back when I was 17, and I practically destroyed majority of guys in wrestling. Football, on the other hand, was a completely different game. The football players are either on something, or weighed around 300lb and 6'6ish. Health wise? I'd not recommend going the steroid route like I did, but if you do, make sure you do your research. Don't just take my word for it. Actually take the time to research on what different chemical in steroid does to the body, and then you can make your own decision there.


Nah, man. I'm happy with who I am, honestly.

I certainly don't want to hurt my health for the appearance of fitness. I've got my blood pressure under control and I'm focused on a few other health related goals.

I'm married and have kids. My wife still enjoys banging me. *shrug* I'm not sweating it.

I was only pointing out that for some people diet and exercise aren't the universal solutions, and people need to acknowledge how fortunate they are when they can look appealing easily.

Trust me when I say I probably exercised more intensely than most, and was still a larger fellow. Even when I was really light, at 165 lbs, I looked really sick and my ribs stuck out.


Judging by your profile pic/face, I'd say you're a pretty good looking man. Not much mention, your life sounds pretty good with wife and kids. One thing about bodybuilding and fitness in general is that, although it's cool to be "ripped", if that's the ONLY thing you have going on in your life, then well.... it's not as fulfilling as having a more "balanced" life. But then again, we each have our own lives. We choose the way we want to live. :)
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Well, thanks for the kind words.

But yeah, as long as you are happy and aren't pissing all over the happiness of others to get that way, that's all that really matters.
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Posted 25 days ago
hmm I think id prefer to just be normal, to much of either way is bad. musclebound people kinda look freaky
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OnePunchJoJo wrote:

First off, everybody's entitled to their own choice and preference. Now then, let's get to the question.

Do you want to be ripped/skinny/lean, and eat good but not a lot/ eat a lot of bland food OR do you chose to eat a lot, and enjoy all kinds of food. Not saying that going with the 2nd choice would make you obese assuming you have a daily workout regime. Going that route, you'd look relatively good and buff with clothes on.

Me, personally, I prefer being on the bigger side of things. I eat pretty much whatever I want, and I'm on an unlimited meal plan at my college. So a typical dinner for me would be two grilled cheeseburgers, some chinese food, and for desert, maybe a milkshake with some cookies. That adds up to be over 2000calories, which is perfect for post workout, brah.

Although, a couple mates of mine prefer to go the lean and mean machine kinda route. They eat f**king clean s**ts like oatmeal, chicken breasts, broccoli, things of that nature.



That was me during senior year of high school. I did a lot of wrestling and football brah. Not that big, but pretty juiced. Didn't really like this look that much. I prefer the full, pumped aesthetics more


Lookin' good bro. I'm second guessing my sexual orientation at this point

At this point I got a bit of a gut (love beer), but I hit the gym to keep up my physical strength. The last thing I want is to be physically weak. Can't defend yourself if your weak.
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It's all about the quality, not the quantity - taste the passion behind the food, no matter how small the morsel. That's the umami of life!
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@OP, damn your pretty built!

Yeah, I suppose be ripped. I had to give up drinking all the time last year to actually start to get into shape, sure miss it, although probably wasn't doing my health much good
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OP is obviously FAKE (stealing someone's identity)! Google Jeff Seid.

I seriously doubt OP is Jeff Seid (the guy who's pictures are posted). I never comment in the forums, but can't stand people who steal identities, and hide behind the keyboard pretending to be someone they're not.

Also, to the OP: I'd recommend using Google and checking some things out about Jeff Seid before impersonating him. Such as the fact that this is what he claims his diet is like (copied from this link: http://www.simplyshredded.com/jeff-seid.html) :

9:00 AM: 5 Egg Whites, 1 Whole Egg, half a cup of Oatmeal & Banana
11:00 AM: Protein Shake & Apple
1:00 PM: 8oz. Chicken Breast, Salad & Sweet Potato
3:30 PM: Ham Sandwich, Grapes
6:00 PM: Protein Shake
7:30 PM: 8 oz. Steak, Sweet Potato, Broccoli & Salad
10:00 PM: Peanut Butter & Jelly Sandwich, 2 glasses of Milk
11:30 PM: Half cup of Greek Yogurt & Blue Berries

This is what you said OP:
"Me, personally, I prefer being on the bigger side of things. I eat pretty much whatever I want, and I'm on an unlimited meal plan at my college. So a typical dinner for me would be two grilled cheeseburgers, some chinese food, and for desert, maybe a milkshake with some cookies. That adds up to be over 2000calories, which is perfect for post workout, brah."

There's also this link, and he clearly says "I watch what I eat" under the "how I did it" section and "diet is a huge factor in the way I have gotten my body today. Diet is a serious must if anyone wants to get results." : http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/body-transformation-jeff-looked-up-to-the-last-action-hero.html

Seriously OP...


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Posted 25 days ago , edited 25 days ago
You can be lean, enjoy eating healthy but still eat whatever you want to just not all the time.. I mean a lot of bodybuilders have a free day too where they eat what they want. I wouldn't go back to eating junk all the time, I feel so much better in health and body it's just not worth it.. and I love what I eat anyway lol. Healthy food doesn't have to taste bad.
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Me ahh I don't care I just want to eat and eat whatever I want.
Many people asking me Bailyn where are you putting the food you eating?



You are 16 that'll change once you stop past your mid 20s.
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Well, I'm going to go ahead and close this. I can't stop you from using someone else's image as your avi - to each their own there - but it does seem like you're not the person in the pictures you're using, so your OP is pretty misleading.
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