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Look, Trump won. Whether you like that or not, he did.

Now, if you want to see an appropriate and measured response to his election, perhaps you should go see what President Obama or Hillary Clinton had to say on the issue. I promise you, they were both mature and graceful about it, and it's very clear that they know a whole lot more about the entire situation than any single person on this forum. They exhibited more maturity and respect for our President Elect in each single speech than I've seen from most Hillary Clinton supporters in this entire forum.

Trump is going to be our next president. He deserves the respect and support for a man of that office. AT LEAST until he actually makes policy so terrible it has severe consequences or truly commits crimes.

I didn't like Obama, I didn't like Bush, and truth be told, I don't like Trump either. However, as it was once explained to me, he will be our President, and if we truly hope for a better future, that means we support and respect him as our president.

I've seen insults about Trump and his voters being immature, yet, from Hillary supporters I've see talk of moving out of the country (don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya), there's been rioting, I've seen a whole lot of insults still flying around. These things are the very essence of immaturity.

Look, I realize that most Hillary supporters were raised in our 'participation trophy' years, but the votes are in, and there's only one winner. You want to do the right thing by America now, do what Hillary Clinton and President Obama did, and support your new president and hope for his success.

I'm not trying to be mean, but this is exactly why I think the voting age should be raised to 30. When entitled children are allowed to vote, they don't know how to respond to their candidate's defeat. If you can't understand that you probably, almost guaranteed, will not always get who you want in office --- if you think that throwing a fit afterwards is in any way productive for the US --- you need to stay away from the voting booths.

So, for the love of sanity, grow up, and support the President you're going to have regardless of how you feel about it.
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Posted 29 days ago , edited 28 days ago
thank you for this post. i don't support Trump either, but there's no need to riot and destory people's property, beat people up.
if you don't support a measure by the President, don't kill a random white guy you find on the street for supporting Trump
- instead, pressure the Congress to block the measure from being passed.
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I agree with you 100% i mean people need to give the guy a chance in all honesty.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:

Trump is going to be our next president. He deserves the respect and support for a man of that office. AT LEAST until he actually makes policy so terrible it has severe consequences or truly commits crimes.

So, for the love of sanity, grow up, and support the President you're going to have regardless of how you feel about it.


Well said.

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As a veteran I will respect the office but I will never respect him. I can't respect anyone who bought their way out of doing their duty to me that is as low as running to Canada and nothing you say is going to change my mind
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This is more an issue of entitlement why does everyone think they can do whatever they want because they didn't get their way. Acting like a child will never make you look good guess where all this hate came from? Both side gave out bad candidates its like going to a fish market and all the fish are bad but you have to buy something or you will go hungry you pick the best you can.
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Exactly!! Bout time someone say how it is.
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As a veteran I will respect the office but I will never respect him. I can't respect anyone who bought their way out of doing their duty to me that is as low as running to Canada and nothing you say is going to change my mind

Like Bill Clintion ??

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uncletim wrote:

As a veteran I will respect the office but I will never respect him. I can't respect anyone who bought their way out of doing their duty to me that is as low as running to Canada and nothing you say is going to change my mind

Like Bill Clition ??


they are both on the same slimy level neither is better

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uncletim wrote:

As a veteran I will respect the office but I will never respect him. I can't respect anyone who bought their way out of doing their duty to me that is as low as running to Canada and nothing you say is going to change my mind

Like Bill Clition ??



I was just going to let it go, but I was thinking it.

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Generally a single president doesn't affect my life much, so I'm not worried too much about him.

His policies concerning LGBT people concern me because it's something that could potentially impact my life in a negative way, but he hasn't done anything so it's not my concern.

It's not like Trump is a dictator, he has other people to keep him in check.
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Thank you.

A few other things I want people to keep in mind.

Illegal immagration IS an issue and the half assed "solutions" Obama and Hilary were trying to do weren't doing shit to make it any better. Is Trump's ideas any better? Maybe not but then again maybe his efforts will be partly blocked and we'll end up with a decent solution. So you know let's wait and see how this actually works out. But if you Hilary supporters think her policies were any better they weren't.

As for jobs he really can't make the situation where more and more jobs are just going overseas much worse. Even if he ends up being a bit too pro buisness ... well maybe that will boost the economy which we do need. A more Pro buisness country may get more buisnesses to actually come back. That kind of screws us over in other ways but we do need buisnesses coming back.

Also I've seen people mention the enviroment but do you people realize a lot of the enviromental policies Obama came up with were worthelss? Like companies producing composites have a cap on how many gases they can produce which is an inevitable biproduct of production. What did these companies do? Send their work to counties without caps. So instead of helping the enviroment they just chased more jobs out of the country! My point here is maybe we need to stop thinking the government can just flip a switch and save the planet. REAL enviromental improvement will require buisness cooperation because otherwise they will just find a loophole no matter what laws the government makes.



Let me just end by saying I'm not a fan of Trump. I'm just trying to show not everything is as bad as people seem to think and there is a chance (no matter how slim) that some things may actually work out for the better. So at least save the panic for when something actually happens!

If nothing else remember yelling, roiting, and doing vague protests won't do anything. You're just spreading the hate you claim to be fighting.
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uncletim wrote:


gotcha291 wrote:


uncletim wrote:

As a veteran I will respect the office but I will never respect him. I can't respect anyone who bought their way out of doing their duty to me that is as low as running to Canada and nothing you say is going to change my mind

Like Bill Clition ??


they are both on the same slimy level neither is better



Are there any other types of politicians ???
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As a veteran I will respect the office but I will never respect him. I can't respect anyone who bought their way out of doing their duty to me that is as low as running to Canada and nothing you say is going to change my mind



Not to be rude, but the military isn't for everyone and you shouldn't judge people for not wanting to fight and die for their country. Sure it's a scummy thing to buy your way out of serving while everyone else has to serve, but a lot of people would do the same if they had he resources necessary.

There are many brave people who will fight on behalf of those who aren't so brave, and I respect those people because it means I can enjoy my nice cozy civilian life.
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Generally a single president doesn't affect my life much, so I'm not worried too much about him.

His policies concerning LGBT people concern me because it's something that could potentially impact my life in a negative way, but he hasn't done anything so it's not my concern.

It's not like Trump is a dictator, he has other people to keep him in check.


I am going to have to give Trump a change. I hope he is another Regan. I didn't like him at first, but he was a good president.

As you said, his LGBT stance worries me. The other human rights that he said he would change worry me as well (abortion, planned parenthood, etc.) The denial of climate change and evolution worry me as well.

I just hope all of this was just talk to get him elected. I don't want to see the rights people have finally gotten removed from them. I have far too many friends who would be impacted by many of these.

I don't want Trump impeached, however.

Trump scares me because I don't know what he will do. This gives him room to go different from my expectations.
Pence scares me because I do know what he will do. I have seen the shit he has penned.

I will take the one that has the best chance for human rights. That is Trump of the two.

Edit: As a side thought. I hope we don't get religion shoved down our throats or it becomes problematic to believe in a different god or something. Recently saw a video of an atheist getting stoned to death in Indonesia. Those screams hit me hard. Reminded me of the time I got beat in school for being an atheist. I hope it doesn't go back to days like that...
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