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One of the consequences of Trump winning the election is the death of the Trans-Pacific Partnership (aka TPP), a trade pact of 12 countries in the Americas and South East Asia. The deal would have created a free trade zone comprising over 40% of the world's GDP, made one country's copyright laws easier to enforce in another member nation, and allow corporations to sue governments who passed legislation "infringing"on their profits.

What are your thoughts on this? What are the Pros and Cons in your opinion?


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Posted 11/10/16 , edited 11/11/16
Good that should put a stop to the globalist agenda and their evil schemes........................
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Whereas Americans continually had to send emails to Congress, and to the FCC about Net Neutrality (not to give the Internet to AT&T and its friends), U.S. politicians, at the urging of the telecommunications giants, added it to the TPP treaty as well. By treaty, Net Neutrality would have died.

Now that TPP is as good as dead (provided Obama doesn't push for it's ratification for his signature before 20 January 2017), Net Neutrality is, once again, safe for all Americans.

EDIT:

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/what-is-tpp-internet-intellectual-property/

More info on what TPP is:

https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! *leaves the room*
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Posted 11/10/16

DeadlyOats wrote:

Whereas Americans continually had to send emails to Congress, and to the FCC about Net Neutrality (not to give the Internet to AT&T and its friends), U.S. politicians, at the urging of the telecommunications giants, added it to the TPP treaty as well. By treaty, Net Neutrality would have died.

Now that TPP is as good as dead (provided Obama doesn't push for it's ratification for his signature before 20 January 2017), Net Neutrality is, once again, safe for all Americans.


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Only dead for America not the rest of the world.
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It was a terrible deal and it's better off forgotten.
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HAHAHAHAHA GOOD STUPID ASS DEAL
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I feel like my reasons for wanting it dead differ from Trump's, but I am glad he is committed to killing it.
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pansyforyourthoughts wrote:

I feel like my reasons for wanting it dead differ from Trump's, but I am glad he is committed to killing it.


How so? I'm curious what different reasons you might have.
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Posted 11/10/16 , edited 11/10/16

Rujikin wrote:

How so? I'm curious what different reasons you might have.


My main issues with the TPP are those that grant corporations an excess of power. Under the TPP, the government would be severely restricted in its ability to protect the rights of workers and the environment. It undermines the democracy of the countries involved, and gives more power to transnational businesses. I don't approve of anything that will expand intellectual property rules, and it's impossible to ignore the potential for the TPP to cause pharmaceutical prices to skyrocket -- not just in America, but in all countries now bound to America's ridiculous pharmaceutical industry and IP laws.

Similar issues arise with other laws. In Canada, one of the big controversies is BGH-injected cows. This is banned in Canadian grocery stores, but the TPP would not only allow but encourage their import from the U.S.A.. There is a company, TransCanada, that is suing the US Government by means of NAFTA demanding compensation for Obama's rejection of the Keystone pipeline, something environmentalists and most of our indigenous populations agree would be disastrous for Canada despite economic benefits. NAFTA alone gives them this power, and the TPP would expand this to other areas. I don't want to see the US government, or any government, sued for making the right choice (or at least, what they perceive as the right choice) for their people or the environment because it does not benefit corporate interest. To say nothing of how many of these energy disputes take place on First Nations/Native American lands.

There are other issues, of course, and with regards to Trump's main issue (the loss of jobs in America), I also agree with that. (I agree less with some of his Amerocentric complaints, but that's to be expected, as I am American expat.) But it is a minor issue, for me, compared to the severe global ramifications of increased corporate interest in the Pacific.
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I am all for it. The only reason to negotiate this in secret is that they are up to no good. All I have to say is burn it with fire! All of that paper would make one hell of a bonfire...I'll bring the beer.
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If what EFF says about it is true, then good riddance.

https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
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