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Posted 25 days ago , edited 25 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs


This man shares my sentiments and i've been saying this shit for years that one day the lefts' attitude and approach will fuck them over. The age of SJW bullshit needs to end and people need to learn how to think instead of espousing campaign slogans and hastag slactivism bullshit.
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Whether you voted because you didn't like Clinton, you liked his economic plan (whatever it is), or wanted to give the government a middle finger or voted third party because who didn't like either of them or just didn't vote at all, you absolutely knew that it would alienate minorities, the disabled, women...essentially anyone who isn't a white male and put them in a situation of real fear. People weighed whatever reason that they decided not to vote for Clinton against the lives and rights of very real people and chose their reason. You can try to fool people into thinking that you only voted for one aspect of Trump, but you knew full well that all of this comes with the territory. It's passive racism. The only person you would be fooling is yourself into thinking that it's somehow the democrats or republicans fault for Trump becoming president, but at the end of the day, the people voted. This election was not an election. It was a one question quiz and there was a right and wrong answer. Frustration and anger made it easy to choose the brick that is Donald Trump and throw it at the government because that's just it. It's easier than understanding the cost of your vote while simultaneously recognizing the forgotten small towns of this country. There's no doubt that they now have a voice, but it is at the cost of empowering very real racist and xenophobic people who also support Trump to take action. What we discovered this election is at least half of the voters in this country made the easier choice when given the opportunity to think about others.
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^^ Hah if only it were that simple! What you're doing is no different than what the far left has been doing for years and you think these people who have been alienated will vote for the people who alienated them? Get real bruh!!!! Also I did not vote for anyone during this election. You people on the left need to stop it with this shaming and labeling rhetoric otherwise the future of your political party is going to be bleak.
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Whether you voted because you didn't like Clinton, you liked his economic plan (whatever it is), or wanted to give the government a middle finger or voted third party because who didn't like either of them or just didn't vote at all, you absolutely knew that it would alienate minorities, the disabled, women...essentially anyone who isn't a white male and put them in a situation of real fear. People weighed whatever reason that they decided not to vote for Clinton against the lives and rights of very real people and chose their reason. You can try to fool people into thinking that you only voted for one aspect of Trump, but you knew full well that all of this comes with the territory. It's passive racism. The only person you would be fooling is yourself into thinking that it's somehow the democrats or republicans fault for Trump becoming president, but at the end of the day, the people voted. This election was not an election. It was a one question quiz and there was a right and wrong answer. Frustration and anger made it easy to choose the brick that is Donald Trump and throw it at the government because that's just it. It's easier than understanding the cost of your vote while simultaneously recognizing the forgotten small towns of this country. There's no doubt that they now have a voice, but it is at the cost of empowering very real racist and xenophobic people who also support Trump to take action. What we discovered this election is at least half of the voters in this country made the easier choice when given the opportunity to think about others.


I hope you weren't planning on people taking you seriously.

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All this proves to me is we need a viable third party with enough power and backing to take on the two bloated corpse that are the DNC and RNC hell at this point I would welcome a Military coup anything would better then the clown show we just went through and the 4 year joke we are about to suffer
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All this proves to me is we need a viable third party with enough power and backing to take on the two bloated corpse that are the DNC and RNC hell at this point I would welcome a Military coup anything would better then the clown show we just went through and the 4 year joke we are about to suffer


While I very much disagree with a coup, I'm fully on board with people voting for third party candidates.

The most frustrating part of the entire campaign is that we were forced to choose between two different types of shit, either way. Would you prefer diarrhea or constipation?

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One thing for sure is that the old way was not working for most people. Maybe Trump will be the answer, maybe he won't... we just cant continue with the way things have been going for the last 20+ years. That's why in 4 years we get to decide again if he is worth another 4 years or not.
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No one thing is to blame for Trump's victory. There are several reasons he won. To blame it all one thing is like saying the Civil War was fought over slavery. Hitler is the reason behind Nazi Germany's rise. It's childish and simplistic. This is a big country with a lot of people and a lot of causes that contributed to this but in the end, it doesn't really matter right now. That's for historians to debate years from now as we examine the history of his presidency. Right now we need to stop pointing fingers on why and move forward in whatever way we can. If you voted for Trump then move forward with optimism that he will be all you wanted. If you didn't want Trump then make your voice heard and do everything you can to fight for the ideas you value. If you didn't want either and are scared to death then move on with hope. It's too soon to know for sure what will happen.
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No one thing is to blame for Trump's victory. There are several reasons he won. To blame it all one thing is like saying the Civil War was fought over slavery. Hitler is the reason behind Nazi Germany's rise. It's childish and simplistic. This is a big country with a lot of people and a lot of causes that contributed to this but in the end, it doesn't really matter right now. That's for historians to debate years from now as we examine the history of his presidency. Right now we need to stop pointing fingers on why and move forward in whatever way we can. If you voted for Trump then move forward with optimism that he will be all you wanted. If you didn't want Trump then make your voice heard and do everything you can to fight for the ideas you value. If you didn't want either and are scared to death then move on with hope. It's too soon to know for sure what will happen.


Watch the video that man stated plenty of factors I've only stated one or two because its the one or two that seemed prominent to me.
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I did watch it, it just seemed the chunk of argument was blaming the dems with Hillary and the overall left for not properly discussing and simply labeling Trump supporters. Which I agree contributed to it but to say that to point to one side and say this happened because you didn't do these things ignores the contributions of the other side and other factors to his rise.
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You can try to fool people into thinking that you only voted for one aspect of Trump, but you knew full well that all of this comes with the territory. It's passive racism. The only person you would be fooling is yourself into thinking that it's somehow the democrats or republicans fault for Trump becoming president, but at the end of the day, the people voted. This election was not an election. It was a one question quiz and there was a right and wrong answer. Frustration and anger made it easy to choose the brick that is Donald Trump and throw it at the government because that's just it. It's easier than understanding the cost of your vote while simultaneously recognizing the forgotten small towns of this country. There's no doubt that they now have a voice, but it is at the cost of empowering very real racist and xenophobic people who also support Trump to take action. What we discovered this election is at least half of the voters in this country made the easier choice when given the opportunity to think about others."


Completely agree with you. I love how people hate on Hillary but say nothing of the Bushes and the corporate complicity in that administration. if you think Trump is not in bed with the same factions, only recently licking the balls of the religious right and not to mention his ties to Russia and the mob, you are clearly deluded. I am not a fan of the Clintons but I know a xenophobic liar when I hear one. I have lived under military government led by a U.S.managed coup and have family who fled both Nazi and Communist regimes. My grandpa worked in the resistance. You wanna make fun of SJWs, then you can make fun of all those people who helped people during wars. You guys have 0 clue about what real change is about.
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All this proves to me is we need a viable third party with enough power and backing to take on the two bloated corpse that are the DNC and RNC hell at this point I would welcome a Military coup anything would better then the clown show we just went through and the 4 year joke we are about to suffer


The third party was created, in a sense, when the Republican elite was pummeled and trampled as Trump won the primaries. Trump doesn't follow the Republican Party's ideologies or platforms.

He made his own platform, reshaped the Republican position. In essence, he created a "New Republican Party." The Republicans have seen what the people wanted. So, they have to conform to Trump's platform, to be in compliance to the will of the people.

Let's see how things will go on 20 January, 2017 after he's sworn in.
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I said it a year ago, and I say it today:
The Republicans created Donald Trump when they wanted to "demonize" Bill, Obama, Hillary and every Democrat since Reagan, and realized they weren't immune from their own monster.

Flailing fear-buttons about, they turned the rhetoric up to 11, and depicted Bill and Obama as "tyrants" and their legislation as "Unconstitutional abuses of power"--
It was supposed to convince the rest of us, but instead, it only backfired and convinced the Republicans that "Once a president gets in office, he's now power-happy to do anything he wants, and no one has any power to say no."
And all you have to do to stop the runaway train is get elected yourself (just get enough people to like you, and then you'll win-win-win at the polls), and then YOU'RE the guy with the national sandbox all to yourself, to fix everything back all by yourself, be nationally hailed and loved, and be carved as the fifth Mount Rushmore head, huzzah!

Trump certainly believed it, because he's never held any public office, and Republican voters believed it, because, well, they'll believe anything they want to, if they wish hard enough.
So, they notice that Trump's going around making crazy promises like "I'm going to hunt down every terrorist, kick out every lobbyist, cut all of Congress's salaries, repeal all Obama legislation, and declare global warming an official Lie!", and they believe him, because they wish someone would.
And then they notice the other candidates--who've actually WORKED as senators and governors, and have some remote idea of political process, economics and negotiation--aren't making those same promises, because, well, duh.

And then when the voters asked the other candidates, "Why aren't you promising to do all the crazy stuff the cool other guy said he was going to do?", and the real politicians said "I can't do that", up go the immediate chants of "Washington has turned its back on the people! The fatcat elite don't care about the voters! Time to bring in someone from the outside who isn't stagnated with Wall Street money!"

And they all flock to the new guy just to thumb their nose at the mean earlier people who said no, the new guy comes in, and GUESS WHAT: He can't do any of it either.
Well, we did try to warn you.
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Dacapn wrote:

Whether you voted because you didn't like Clinton, you liked his economic plan (whatever it is), or wanted to give the government a middle finger or voted third party because who didn't like either of them or just didn't vote at all, you absolutely knew that it would alienate minorities, the disabled, women...essentially anyone who isn't a white male and put them in a situation of real fear. People weighed whatever reason that they decided not to vote for Clinton against the lives and rights of very real people and chose their reason. You can try to fool people into thinking that you only voted for one aspect of Trump, but you knew full well that all of this comes with the territory. It's passive racism. The only person you would be fooling is yourself into thinking that it's somehow the democrats or republicans fault for Trump becoming president, but at the end of the day, the people voted. This election was not an election. It was a one question quiz and there was a right and wrong answer. Frustration and anger made it easy to choose the brick that is Donald Trump and throw it at the government because that's just it. It's easier than understanding the cost of your vote while simultaneously recognizing the forgotten small towns of this country. There's no doubt that they now have a voice, but it is at the cost of empowering very real racist and xenophobic people who also support Trump to take action. What we discovered this election is at least half of the voters in this country made the easier choice when given the opportunity to think about others.

You know as well as I do Hillary doesn't give a shit about any of those groups of people. If your not a mega donor or her brand of liberal she couldn't care less if you live or die.
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The grass is always greener on the other side. 8 years with a democrat stunk lets try 8 years with a republican. 8 years later, well 8 years with a republican stunk let's try 8 years with a democrat. Both sides of the political system are so corrupt that neither is going to do much for the pleb that is the common person.
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