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pansyforyourthoughts wrote:


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But, hey, keep believing those hard regulations don't force business out of the country, and keep watching while our economy takes a nose dive, and no one ends up with a decent paying job.


Don't think I said they wouldn't leave the country. One of the big things you have to accommodate for in this form of government is compensating workers in areas with small job markets when a large business leaves. It allows people to get back on their feet and, ultimately, come together to fill the gap left by a corporation. The end goal is government-subsidized businesses paying heavy taxes (or else giving stocks to the government), owned by the workers. But there needs to be a smooth way to transition, and to allow some companies capable of handling the burden to remain in the country if that is their desire. Some people have proposed outright banning the sale of any product made by a corporation that has abandoned a certain percentage of its American factories for cheaper, foreign ones as an incentive to remain in the market or else allow the new businesses that replace it to smoothly take their place -- I don't know if I would go that far, but it's one possibility, at least.


Seriously?

This is very telling of your understanding of how economics works. In terms of production based business, there is no reason to conduct business within a nation that prevents you from remaining globally competitive.

You're basically talking about communist policies that start a domino effect eventually leading to collapse. You want people to buy your products, though you place high regulation that skyrocket their production costs, so you place super-high tariffs or ban imports, that results in not being able to buy products at a reasonable cost no matter how high wages are.... I mean, shit just keeps rolling down hill until you have one massive mess, a collapsed economy, and cannibalism. I know, I know, that last part sounds way out there, but there have been reports from North Korea.

Look, at this point, I'm just thinking you have no real grasp of economics, so unless I want to teach multiple courses via forums, debating with you is kinda pointless.
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Posted 26 days ago , edited 26 days ago

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I've mentioned it already a few times in this thread but I'd also think about job retraining. The fact of the matter is that the job market will change with time, for the majority of work, there will be shifts in what jobs are available and what are not, so it's very important that we not only focus on helping people get a trade skill but be able to gain a more relevant one if their market takes a dive.


I do like that idea. Even within a 'stable' market, jobs have changed a lot over the past few decades and with the retirement age rising over time, people are going to be in their businesses for far longer than their education will be relevant.

@HolyDrumstick, Fair enough, I don't think our beliefs and economics education are compatible enough to be worth debating. But I do like your point about marriage. Government contracts for the ease of shared property and housing, bank accounts, immigration, and child custody as a form of commitment separate from a religious one. Besides, some churches allow gay people to get married, so it's all cool.
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You want comments on your economics ideas eh? I'll ignore the social policies because those are beyond ridiculous.

1. Makes no sense. Why would any company chase a small percentage of tax breaks when they could disregard environmental concerns altogether and raise their profit by exponentially more. This far outweighs the benefit of saving on taxes, and paying the cost of developing and maintaining cleaner production methods.Companies have proven time and time again that his is exactly what they'll do. Not to mention deregulation would be highly irresponsible as far as the emissions of carbon would increase by crazy numbers and I guess they wouldn't have to deal with disposing of their wastes responsibly? Who pays the bill for the polluted water and the rest of the environmental damage the deregulation would cause?

2. Im not sure I see where you are going with this. So on a positional basis, say you are an IT Tech and they are having money issues so they cap new hires salaries at 40k. Instead of capping the salary they have to maintain a certain percentage of what max? The previous max for an IT Tech? The CEO's max? Companies would lower their max salaries and you would receive even less thanks to the percentage rule.

3. Makes no sense again, it's like a legislated (ridiculous) version of the whole trickle down economics idea. How do you invest in jobs? If you are self-employed, lets say a physician that makes tons of money as a neurosurgeon. You don't have employees, so you are expected to invest in jobs in some fashion. Are you supposed to go to some company and say, "hey, I make too much money so let me pay for your employees or you could add some extra employees you don't need so I can pay them?" Or do you expect this person to start his own business just for the purposes of paying someone a salary? When he has neither the desire, knowledge, or need to run a new company. Also in a capitalist society it makes no sense to legislate that a current company owner would have to raise the wages of his employees if his personal income is too high. What if he makes money from stocks or other investments outside of his business (which is failing) but you want to force him to pay higher wages or hire more people?

4. Im guessing here you want to facilitate competition. Say a company is developing a new operating system to compete with Microsoft and your idea is to "streamline" the lending process and help them gain capital investments (by providing tax breaks to investors and lenders) provided they are going to offer their product at a lower cost? It's not really a great idea in terms of it's overall economic impact, and lenders won't be that interested based on the sheer amount of new companies that completely flame out. You would have to provide insurance on their losses to even give them incentive to go for this, and then the federal government would just get raked across the coals as they took advantage of you. Then you threw in the part about DVD makers producing cell-phones and I lost you. Even if you add tax incentives the cost of R&D, production, marketing, and distribution for a completely new product type would far outweigh any benefit from a mere tax incentive.

5. We currently offer tax breaks to companies that manufacture products solely within the USA. This costs the government 50+ billion per every 5 years. Now this has no restriction based on the origin of the employees, but the idea was to increase the amount of manufacturing jobs within the USA. Yet we are still losing these jobs to overseas production. So you propose RAISING their overall taxes and then telling them if they employ so many Americans(which they are already doing in an American plant), they can get cuts. For one, the raising of the tax rate alone will keep companies outside of the USA from coming here. Especially if you consider that in some of the places they are choosing to manufacture these products (not all) because they can get more skilled, higher educated workers without paying your higher rates and higher US salaries. The deal would have to be so sweet that they were basically paying no taxes at all (which with the current amount of corporate loopholes they're doing anyway) and the government would lose out on an ENORMOUS amount of money.
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I would also; exile most liberals to Mexico.
Cut federal funding to any school that has 'safe spaces' or restricted 'free speech zones'
Place a tariff on all goods imported from Mexico until the wall and all US tax dollars stolen by non-citizens living off public funding is paid off.
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I don't trust myself making policies or assuming leadership. When this happens, you'll all be looking at the next Josef Stalin; I'll execute anybody just because I feel like it and I'll round up dissidents to put in labor camps situated in Minnesota where they will endure harsh cold while busting their asses doing community service.

Well, okay; I'll try not to be like Stalin. But I might be a real dick-tator. I've got a ton of stupid ideas that I think are feasible, such as punishing rich people for not spending their money on productive things. If I find out that they spent their money on making a golf-course instead of something like, say, amassing a gun collection or starting a space program, I'll sic my goons on them.
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Cutting useless military spending so they never have to make another lightning II again to avoid having too much equipment shoved into their budget by congress and the senate every year, or expanding and putting the army core of engineers in charge of expanding and repairing our infrastructure needs.

Buying up Catholic Malpractice suite creating hospitals or building more federal hospitals in needed areas.

Universal health care.

Labeling and treating white supremacist groups as terrorists.Those immigrants are cash-cows, sorry-not-sorry nativists.

Fixing the little acknowledged renting crisis and expanding residential areas vertically.

Breaking up big cable companies, because they do not actually compete.

Helping rural communities.

Ending big fossil-fuel's climate action blockade.

Taxing the hell out of stupidly rich people.

Increasing public education spending and quality.

Increasing police budgets nationwide, removing quotas, better training, communal policing, no more broken windows but fixing windows, and maybe starting a swat division to handle the things the police have been terrible at the past couple of years with a focus on deescalation.

Investments in nuclear, electric cars, wind, and solar.

Give people the "adventure" that they want out of NASA.

In general: try and solve as many problems that need fixing as possible.

ensure a women's right to choose stays.

LGBT rights.

Oh, and let the CIA have more fun turning the White House into a ninja mansion. You know they want to.
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Along with lowering taxes and ending illegal programs the federal government uses to expand its power, I would close tax loopholes.

The biggest one is the philanthropy loophole. Anyone that makes more than 50,000 dollars a year (person, business, or corporation) cannot declare any donation or contribution against their taxes.
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well a few things i would do

first i would clear out the scum that has collected in the education system such as banning all ideological based classes no political ideology classes or religious schools. schools are for education/learning not indoctrination. also most teachers or staff found to be to heavily involved in indoctrination schooling may lose their job. as well as expect certain standards of teaching and to help that i would increase funding but also set up a system to asses teachers weather for quality of teaching miscellaneous things like psychological issues (I've had a teacher who literal was insane but didn't have anything happen till he totally lost it years after). also echo chambers aka safe spaces from other opinions or facts will be thrown out the plane into a volcano.

i would try and make improvements to the medical system .ill make the right to die or whatever legal of course strict regulations and such. also ensure that experimental medical procedures and meds can't be used publicly without passing various trials and if their seems to be ether bribery or pressure on the tester to pass it through or speed things up then the people behind the bribe or pressure will be find and jailed especially if the medicine involved causes serious harm (I've heard some meds being pushed through like this). i would also look at the most healthy countries for ideas on how can improve.

place additional laws to prevent corruption in politics.

make it so everyone is accountable for their own actions. example someone who falsely accuses someone of a crime will serve the same sentence as the if they had committed the crime they falsely accused someone off (no death sentence). or if someone does commit a crime they will be punished the same weather or not they a certain gender or race shouldn't matter.

i will also legalize the death penalty but ensure that it is highly regulated and strict laws involved.

set up environmental regulations and increase research into climate change and how adapt to it or reverse various negative effects of it. try and move away from for example oil as a main item of trade. encourage the use of non vehicle transportation such as bikes walking less harsh on the environment and increased activity would increase general population health.

discourage 2 full time away from home working parents. i feel that some people get priorities mixed up saying work is more important then their kids if they have any i don't think that's healthy. also try and make it so divorces are less likely to happen unless abuse or cheating is involved. where cheating or abuse isn't shown to be a issue. unless their capable of settling for example the house then the house will be sold and the money will be split between the 2. if one is considered the primary provider they will be given priority for any kids involved also any money transfer between the parents related to the kids will be sent to specific bank accounts under the kid/s name with restrictions to try and prevent miss use of the money.

alterations to immigration laws more restrictions involving mass immigration primarily. don't want to become like some European countries have become nor do i want a wave of people who don't like democracy moving here just because they lost a vote.
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HolyDrumstick wrote:


Electoral College. I COULD be wrong, but I feel like you want to make every vote count equally, across the board. I think that's a really terrible policy, unless we go back to a more State Power > Federal Power system. Why?

How would you feel if you lived somewhere with solid grey area, and everyone from those tiny blue areas got to make all of your policies for you?

Now, there are better systems, but it goes back to old school New US days, when you could only vote if you owned land. I would be willing to extend that to 'ONE person from EACH household.'

Me? I'd prefer the State Power route.


I do live in a grey area! I still don't think my vote should count more than someone else's.
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My politics:

Mandatory brainwashing awareness.
Freedom of speech under mandatory brainwashing awareness.
Compulsory skepticism.
Freedom of speech under compulsory skepticism.
Transperency of government and banks.

I'm partly drunk, can't think of much else.
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1. Ban companies from completely moving overseas. Enforced with military power
2. All states anti gun laws overturned
3. Tax churches, mosques, etc
4 Ban foreigners from owning land and businesses in the USA
5. Label Black Lives Matter as a terror group
Hmmm

What else...
Mandatory conscription for all able bodied individuals, you must serve if you want to vote

Ehhh...
Oh yeah legalize pot too

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I'd outlaw all "safe spaces" and then hand all those who require spaces, where only their point of view is allowed, a big box of tissues to cry into.
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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

1. Ban companies from completely moving overseas. Enforced with military power
2. All states anti gun laws overturned
3. Tax churches, mosques, etc
4 Ban foreigners from owning land and businesses in the USA
5. Label Black Lives Matter as a terror group
Hmmm

What else...
Mandatory conscription for all able bodied individuals, you must serve if you want to vote

Ehhh...
Oh yeah legalize pot too



Cripes, dude.

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Lol So let me see if I got this right Calling someone a nigger or fag ect. is legal? But calling some a racist or a homophob for calling someone a nigger or a fag is illegal please explain this logic behind this?
Posted 21 days ago

Emtro wrote:

Along with lowering taxes and ending illegal programs the federal government uses to expand its power, I would close tax loopholes.

The biggest one is the philanthropy loophole. Anyone that makes more than 50,000 dollars a year (person, business, or corporation) cannot declare any donation or contribution against their taxes.


That will pretty much decimate the vast majority of all charitable giving.

Where I would draw the line, is the point where people like Gates and Clintons are at, where it has become purely a money laundering mechanism for them.
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