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Posted 4/1/08
Are you sure its not a nihonto? Cuz I've seen some unsigned nihontos like the ones used in WWII.
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Posted 4/3/08
There ARE no unsigned nihonto.

Nihonto means naturally "Japanese Sword" but more specifically it is a sword that is registered under a specific school and hand forged in the traditional way in Japan.
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Posted 4/3/08
Yes that is true, but in WWII there is a great demand on swords so they went to mass production, so they didn't have time for traditional forging methods or signing the swords. So there were countless unsigned swords by that time. And also for as long as I know in Japan in the Edo period, there were a lot of merchants making swords that were unsigned. They were making them for just to earn a few ryo. But signed nihonto would cost from 20-100ryo.

This is an example of an unsigned nihonto, The koshirae is undeniably from WWII, but the blade is what I dont know.

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Posted 4/4/08
Yeah you're right.
However, I would MUCH rather buy a top quality sword from bugei.com or save up for a real nihonto than buy one. They are notoriously of horrid quality. It takes some serious training to become a swordsmith.

I can judge swords by Yasu-kizu, I can read signatures, and I am versed in metallurgy pertaining to weaponry. I can appraise swords IRL, but It is a shame I can't do so over the internet.
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Posted 4/5/08
Yes thats right, but sometimes there are also top quality swords omn ebay but most people doesn't know how to appraise them so it is often sold or bought at a low price. By the way where did you learn on how to appraise swords? Do you have a book or somebody taught you how?
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I would NEVER suggest buying a sword on E-Bay.
It's a general bad idea.

There are never quality swords on E-bay, and even if there were, it would be foolish to purchase them. Caveat emptor, my friend.

You go to any of the major martial art forums and mention E-Bay, and people will either laugh at or lecture you on why it's BAD BAD BAD in every way, shape, or form possible.

Just as you can't learn martial arts from a book, you cannot learn to judge a sword either. I have a ref book with signatures, but aside from that I was taught by my MSR instructor. He was born and grew up in Japan and was always interested in swords, so first off he was apprenticed by his friend's father in judging swords before he was old enough to take up swordsmanship.

Judging a sword is different from appraising it.
You judge the fit, the strength, if the length is correct for it's owner, if the koshirae (fittings) are correct and in top condition, we judge the sheen (hamon) and general mettalurgy (He does a Rockwell C test, I don't know how to do that.) We test then the value of the koshirae first, then dismantle the blade and check the blade all the way through by yasu-kizu and then do a signature reading and determine the overall value and condition (should the sword be a decoration only (if it's really old and valuable) or if it is fit for kata and/or tameshigiri and so on.) and that's about it.
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Posted 4/5/08
Wow thanks
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