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Now that it's aired, join the discussion at /forumtopic-995095/vatican-miracle-examiner-discussion





The December issue of Kadokawa's Comic Gene magazine is announcing on Tuesday that Rin Fujiki's Vatican Miracle Examiner (Vatican Kiseki Chōsakan) mystery novel series is getting an anime adaptation project.


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The novels center on Hiraga Josef Kō, a genius scientist, and Robert Nicholas, an archives and cryptanalysis expert. The two work as a team as the Vatican's "miracle examiners," traveling the world to investigate the authenticity of claims of miracles.

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Science in the Vatican equal recipe for fail.
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AnimeKami wrote:
Science in the Vatican equal recipe for fail.


Actually this is a thing and yes they do use scientists and other professionals in the determination process.
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This sounds interesting. I'll be interested to see if it's like Scooby Doo "(the supernatural phenomena are fake!") or the X-Files ("The supernatural phenomena are real!").
I'll be looking forward to it.
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This is actually what the Vatican actually does. They try to determine if there is no scientific feasibility to any known explanation, and chalk it up to God, science and all.

Although, two things. If it happens, there is a science behind it, a cause and effect, all things assuming. Your cancer did not disappear on its own, something must have happened to cause a regression, even if it isn't known to us or by science, in which case, we should attribute it to a fact that we do not know and establish it as some scientific possibility then a "God given one" (Which does not nullify the science aspect I believe, as the two may not be incompatible, especially with God being typically portrayed a propagator and creator of all), which leads to my second question, why cannot God work miracles through ways that are already scientifically explained?

Science is just the study and theorizing about the "Whys" of the world in general, and everything can be asked with "Why" can usually be considered Science, or something. I am pretty ignorant of what I just said.

My main point being "Why are miracles and known scientific phenomenons have to be mutually exclusive? They are not from what it appears, unless you redefine nature and natural itself."
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:
[W]hich leads to my second question, why cannot God work miracles through ways that are already scientifically explained?


Given humanity's woefully limited scientific knowledge (we have no idea what 96% of the universe is made of) God could be acting well within the realms of scientific explanation but it's a knowledge so far above ours it might as well be magic. Imagine how a Neanderthal would react to a car or view targeted gene therapy. And if the universe continues to expand as projected in billions of years our records of a universe filled with other galaxies would seem like madness as the universe will have spread so far and at such a rate only the Milky Way would be visible. (Or whatever the resulting galaxy is called after the Milky Way and Andromeda merge.)
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hm. This sounds really interesting.
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domvina wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:
[W]hich leads to my second question, why cannot God work miracles through ways that are already scientifically explained?


Given humanity's woefully limited scientific knowledge (we have no idea what 96% of the universe is made of) God could be acting well within the realms of scientific explanation but it's a knowledge so far above ours it might as well be magic. Imagine how a Neanderthal would react to a car or view targeted gene therapy. And if the universe continues to expand as projected in billions of years our records of a universe filled with other galaxies would seem like madness as the universe will have spread so far and at such a rate only the Milky Way would be visible. (Or whatever the resulting galaxy is called after the Milky Way and Andromeda merge.)


I agree.
My point was that unnatural is more of a term for personal standards for normality if anything else. After all, if something is truly unnatural, it would not have happened, or would basically be impossible. Just because something does not agree with a current science does not mean it is not. It is still a "natural phenomenon", simply because it exists, or is made possible through circumstances that allow it.

Might depend if you go with "naturally occurring" or "possible by nature". I go with the latter in reference to science, which can be roughly encompassing of many elements of our existence....I think.

In a sense, this is a contradiction in of itself with a focus on the meaning of words.


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