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Posted 11/14/16

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I took a closer look at the site. There is nothing in there that says non-traditional marriage is wrong. You made that up. You assumed that something like that was in there.

The purpose of my thread was to look at ideas that are different from what Progressive Liberals think. I stated that very clearly in my opening thread. I'm not trying to do anything sneaky. But hear you are reporting my thread (somebody reported it), and here you are ridiculing a set of ideas that are contrary to yours, because they are conservative - while simultaneously saying that you are not basing your arguments purely based on ridiculing conservative ideas.


I did not just assume that Prager was against gay marriage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTE9zWaQc_Y
Although I WAS wrong about PragerU having made anti-gay marriage videos. I was confusing them for another conservative think tank.

And I'm not ridiculing these ideas BECAUSE they are conservative. I ridicule them because they are stupid, and also happen to be conservative. The reason I say I will ridicule ideas promoting conservativism is because conservativism is generally stupid. That does not however mean that I will ridicule it outright simply for being conservative in nature or that I will not consider its notions to be valid.
It's just that generally, that tends to not be the case.

So indeed, I could've phrased myself better, but there it is anyway...



You DID NOT ASSUME that Prager made anti-gay marriage videos, but you were WRONG ABOUT PRAGER HAVING MADE anti-gay marriage videos...

There it is. You said it yourself.

These are your own words.

Look. You are derailing my thread. Stop this already. If you want to participate in this thread, pick a topic from the link. Watch it, and give your well reasoned and constructive opinions as to why you think it's wrong. That is what this thread is about.
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O.K. I'll start.

https://www.prageru.com/courses/economics/war-work

This video presents a case, showing that welfare programs have failed, and that an alternative approach to end poverty is needed. I think you can't just end the welfare system cold turkey, however.

NAFTA has gotten rid of so many employers, that good paying jobs have become scare. All that's left are minimum wage jobs. You can't raise a family on minimum wage.

So, how do we fix it? Don't we need to get our jobs back, first?
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Posted 11/14/16

DeadlyOats wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:


DeadlyOats wrote:

I took a closer look at the site. There is nothing in there that says non-traditional marriage is wrong. You made that up. You assumed that something like that was in there.

The purpose of my thread was to look at ideas that are different from what Progressive Liberals think. I stated that very clearly in my opening thread. I'm not trying to do anything sneaky. But hear you are reporting my thread (somebody reported it), and here you are ridiculing a set of ideas that are contrary to yours, because they are conservative - while simultaneously saying that you are not basing your arguments purely based on ridiculing conservative ideas.


I did not just assume that Prager was against gay marriage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTE9zWaQc_Y
Although I WAS wrong about PragerU having made anti-gay marriage videos. I was confusing them for another conservative think tank.

And I'm not ridiculing these ideas BECAUSE they are conservative. I ridicule them because they are stupid, and also happen to be conservative. The reason I say I will ridicule ideas promoting conservativism is because conservativism is generally stupid. That does not however mean that I will ridicule it outright simply for being conservative in nature or that I will not consider its notions to be valid.
It's just that generally, that tends to not be the case.

So indeed, I could've phrased myself better, but there it is anyway...



You DID NOT ASSUME that Prager made anti-gay marriage videos, but you were WRONG ABOUT PRAGER HAVING MADE anti-gay marriage videos...

There it is. You said it yourself.

These are your own words.


Wow, you sure like to twist the meaning of my words, huh?
"I did not just assume that Prager was against gay marriage" is NOT the same as "I did not assume that Prager made anti-gay marriage videos".
And nice going omitting the entire latter 3/4 of my comment in regards to conservativism. Such intellectual honesty you're displaying there...
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DeadlyOats wrote:

RULES:

1) This topic is about many, many points of views of many many topics, that are not Progressive Liberal points of view.

2) Don't try to hijack my thread and start bullshit.

3) There are many topics discussed on that web site, and Safe Space was only one of those. However, I want to focus on the many other topics discussed on that web site.

4) Go to the site. https://www.prageru.com/ Mouse over "Videos" Select a category, and select a video.

5) Listen carefully to the video of the topic you picked.

6) Post a link to it the video, and be very constructive as you post your views about what you heard. Whether you agreed or disagreed to what was said in the video.

7) Only do not discuss the "Safe Space" topic, that's already been discussed on other threads.


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Posted 11/14/16

DeadlyOats wrote:
RULES:

1) This topic is about many, many points of views of many many topics, that are not Progressive Liberal points of view.

2) Don't try to hijack my thread and start bullshit.

3) There are many topics discussed on that web site, and Safe Space was only one of those. However, I want to focus on the many other topics discussed on that web site.

4) Go to the site. https://www.prageru.com/ Mouse over "Videos" Select a category, and select a video.

5) Listen carefully to the video of the topic you picked.

6) Post a link to it the video, and be very constructive as you post your views about what you heard. Whether you agreed or disagreed to what was said in the video.

7) Only do not discuss the "Safe Space" topic, that's already been discussed on other threads.

It is pretty obvious this thread is going to devolve into personal fights (pretty much already has), and will not foster much reasonable discussion. OP if you want to repost something similar, it is fine, go ahead. But instead of doing a weird open format that will never work just pick a subject and make the best op you can about that one subject. Okay?

That said I will give a fair warning. If Oats does post a new thread, does come up with a better OP, and it does work as a topic.... I would avoid trashing it, flaming, or trying to lock down the thread with arguments and other nonsense. If you don't like what someone posts just don't read it and don't reply to it.

In the meantime locked and closed.
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