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bernie says we need to re think about the electoral college
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Bernie should've been the DNC's nom from the beginning. Also I do agree that the electoral system is awfully outdated.
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The electoral college system is quite ridiculous, especially with the winner-take-all system most states have. It silences the voices of people who voted for the minority candidate in their state. And while it was convenient when counting popular vote wasn't a viable option, that's no longer the case. Same with it being designed to buffer the opinions of the uneducated majority; electors used to be able to vote against their state's choice if they strongly disagreed, but now it would be a huge scandal. And Americans are much more educated than in 1792.
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Even Trump agreed that the electoral college is a disaster.

It is a ridiculous system. Your vote is worth nearly four times as much if you live in Wyoming than if you live in California. And it doesn't benefit the rural, conservative workers in large states, either. 3,300,000 people voted for Trump in California, but their votes were functionally worthless because about twice as many voted for Clinton. In the very close states, where the margin is sometimes as small as a couple thousand votes, to basically throw half of the state's votes away is completely undemocratic.

One or two states, I believe Maine at least, split up their electoral college. I don't know how it is done, exactly, but I know Clinton won the state and Trump still got one of their representatives added to his tally. Perhaps there is some merit to that.
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It's something that has a ton of critics, but was meant to keep out the worst of populist candidates. Something that the founding fathers wanted to make it impossible to place in a dictator/king. Like, the prez and politicians basically being a free-for-all to roast and slam thanks to freedom of speech. But, then again: we did have a Canadian candidate.

EDIT: We can remove it at our own risks.
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Last I checked CNN and Fox had Trump predicted to win the popular vote

Also if you took off the couple million illegal votes for Clinton she'd be far behind
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I mean, you should, it's pretty dumb.
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You can win with only the 11 biggest states, so candidates do not actually need to pay attention to small states, rural states, or even most states.
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Living in a winner-take-all state that is a guaranteed win for the ruling party, it is pretty disparaging to know my vote does not count. There's something pretty screwed up when the votes of only a small handful of swing states actually matter.
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redokami wrote:
sigh, seriously?


I don't know. You have a system where the country went and found the two most unlikable people in the nation and then elected the one with the least votes to lead them.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/266038556504494082

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Posted 11/15/16

runec wrote:


redokami wrote:
sigh, seriously?


I don't know. You have a system where the country went and found the two most unlikable people in the nation and then elected the one with the least votes to lead them.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/266038556504494082

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You didn't factor in the 3 Million votes cast by illegals in states with no voter ID. (You know, all of those states with were blue on election night)

https://nationonenews.com/2016/11/14/breaking-lawsuit-3-million-illegal-votes-truethevote-jumpvote/

How do we know illegals are on the voter rolls?
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/07/the-threat-of-non-citizen-voting

So let's say, only 1 million illegals voted, add those to all the dead who resurrected and voted democrat, then subtract that number from Hillary's vote count and see if she still beat trump in the popular vote. Thank god for the electoral college, it prevented another civil war.
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Posted 11/15/16

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then elected the one with the least votes to lead them.



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He had the most electoral votes though. You know, the votes that actually matter.


So glad huge cities full of illegals, SJWs and other scumbags don't get to dictate the politics of the rest of us.




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Posted 11/15/16 , edited 11/15/16

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You didn't factor in the 3 Million votes cast by illegals in states with no voter ID.


Keep fucking that chicken.





Oh well, now that you've drawn.....something.....in MS paint that settles it.
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Posted 11/15/16

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Oh well, now that you've drawn.....something.....in MS paint that settles it.




It represents all the wealthy celebrities and liberal politicians that came out against Trump and his policies and their hypocrisy.



Walls for me, none for thee.
And if leftists had gotten their way these smug, hypocritical bastards would've won.
Posted 11/15/16 , edited 11/15/16

runec wrote:


redokami wrote:
sigh, seriously?


I don't know. You have a system where the country went and found the two most unlikable people in the nation and then elected the one with the least votes to lead them.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/266038556504494082

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oh, so all of the votes were fully counted and...



700,000 votes as of the day after isnt exactly a massive margin, and I've heard in enough places that at this point trump is beyond her in the popular vote too


wahhhh, the DNC couldnt possibly commit enough voter fraud when people go out and vote.



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The electoral college system is quite ridiculous, especially with the winner-take-all system most states have. It silences the voices of people who voted for the minority candidate in their state. And while it was convenient when counting popular vote wasn't a viable option, that's no longer the case. Same with it being designed to buffer the opinions of the uneducated majority; electors used to be able to vote against their state's choice if they strongly disagreed, but now it would be a huge scandal. And Americans are much more educated than in 1792.

I love how people have some sort of problem with "winner take all" in a state but then at the national level its just fine?

Electors used to....used to nothing - its on the law books in 29 states, if they vote for someone other than who the people told them to, its a jailable offense.


qwueri wrote:

Living in a winner-take-all state that is a guaranteed win for the ruling party, it is pretty disparaging to know my vote does not count. There's something pretty screwed up when the votes of only a small handful of swing states actually matter.


Let me show you something




you guys understand that this is the united STATES, right?

why should the DNC be allowed to have 105%+ people voting in the large cities where most of the electoral fraud takes places, and how does that not trample on the voting rights of smaller localities?

the states vote for president.

remember its the united STATES

not

U-Afedgov
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Posted 11/15/16
personally i agree with the electoral colleges purpose of making it so high population centers won't have almost complete control over the country while smaller populations would get almost no say without it
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