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One thing is sure, its natural. selfish? depends there are people who according to the internet, put holes on preservatives only for accomplish a child and tie down a relationship based on obligations.
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It's not selfish. Not in the slightest.


well it's not giving xD


Giving life should be respected. It's not an easy job. Nobody asks to be born, it's the human cycle of life. Being provided for and nurtured is not selfish. I think what's selfish is when people can't appreciate anything. I'm thinking that statement is sort of ironic. What's selfish is running away from responsibility. Not the act of having kids.


Giving life should be respected as much as wanting to extend ones life as it's no less selfish as that.
Having a child is only for allowing your Genes to go on.

Running away from responsibility is selfish but to say Giving life is not selfish is wrong as it is just as Selfish as per say someone wanting Immortality.

In the end Selfish is not always bad


So are you saying adopting is selfish too? He said "Is wanting kids selfish", so adopting isn't the same genes, so how could that possibly be selfish?



Wanting kids is selfish and adopting is less selfish in the sense that you didn't choose to bring those kids into this world without their choice but their terrible parents did then abandoned them.

So Adopting is better and less selfish however your adopting them for you most of the time (alot of parents do ) if it's fully for them then no that isn't selfish at all.

But to bring a life into this world when it has no choice just to extend your genes so your blood lives on is more selfish then just choosing to live on if immortality was a case.

I use immortality as my main showcase here because Immortality and having children are both means to the same end and both aim to do the same thing keep the human race and your dna going on.

My parents were selfish for bringing me into this world (they looked after me fine and i had a great upbringing) but i could never have a child and force it into this world if i have the choice to extend my life instead for the same means to an end.

Both Wanting to stay alive forever and having children are equally as selfish but as you said about children both should be respected however it is selfish that fact remains (selfish doesn't have to mean bad).

I just use that comparison because i get told im selfish for my dream all the time by people with kids and i think the irony is disgusting.
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I see it two ways...

If YOU want to be a parent, know the pains and joys you'll go through, the struggles and benefits of raising a child and have all intention of sticking with it and doing your best to raise a child right to the best of you ability ... it's not selfish at all.

If YOU decided you wanted a child because everyone else had them around you, your friends or relatives were pushing you to have one, you didn't have a clue whether you actually WANTED one or not and planned to not only have a career, but put it first before family and let the kid(s) raise themself/themselves or have someone else do it for you where you eventually would end up disliking your own child/children wishing them to grow-up and get out as soon as possible ... then that would be selfish.

Children are a gift not a status symbol and should be treated like the gift they are.
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Ryulightorb wrote:


Ny0 wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


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It's not selfish. Not in the slightest.


well it's not giving xD


Giving life should be respected. It's not an easy job. Nobody asks to be born, it's the human cycle of life. Being provided for and nurtured is not selfish. I think what's selfish is when people can't appreciate anything. I'm thinking that statement is sort of ironic. What's selfish is running away from responsibility. Not the act of having kids.


Giving life should be respected as much as wanting to extend ones life as it's no less selfish as that.
Having a child is only for allowing your Genes to go on.

Running away from responsibility is selfish but to say Giving life is not selfish is wrong as it is just as Selfish as per say someone wanting Immortality.

In the end Selfish is not always bad


So are you saying adopting is selfish too? He said "Is wanting kids selfish", so adopting isn't the same genes, so how could that possibly be selfish?


I'm not a "he".
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i don't see why it would be selfish. you're dedicating your limited resources to raise a child.


So is not wanting a child more selfish?


What is your opinion about it? and what made you think that either choice is selfish?


The only way for me to see selfishness in wanting to have children is if you're poor and can't provide for your kids well being. I'm not saying you have to be rich, just be a responsible adult who can give your children a healthy life. For example...myself. I love children, I want to have at least 2 but I can hardly pay the bills and I don't want to depend on a man so I'm childless until I can pay bills, have good savings and when I'm not living check by check. It would be selfish of me to have kids now just because that's my desire while I can hardly support myself. My mom says that it is selfish to have kids in this day and age because of all the violence and corruption in this world and bringing kids to this world will only make them suffer.



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i don't see why it would be selfish. you're dedicating your limited resources to raise a child.


So is not wanting a child more selfish?


What is your opinion about it? and what made you think that either choice is selfish?




I have none....yet.
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It is, you never asked the child if it wanted to be born.
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I always hear people say my wish for Immortality is selfish but it's like ....so is your wish to have kids..


Immortality is impossible. Having a child isn't. That's a dumb comparison.

There are of course cases when having a child can be seen as selfish. But I wouldn't clump every case in the same basket.

Having a child isn't selfish if you're prepared and ready (not that anyone is 100% ready for parenthood) Being a parent is the biggest responsibility one could have. It's more selfish having a kid then not being an active part of their lives or unwilling to sacrifice things like time, hobbies or sleep.
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I always hear people say my wish for Immortality is selfish but it's like ....so is your wish to have kids..


Immortality is impossible. Having a child isn't. That's a dumb comparison.

There are of course cases when having a child can be seen as selfish. But I wouldn't clump every case in the same basket.

Having a child isn't selfish if you're prepared and ready (not that anyone is 100% ready for parenthood) Being a parent is the biggest responsibility one could have. It's more selfish having a kid then not being an active part of their lives or unwilling to sacrifice things like time, hobbies or sleep.


Immortality is possible we are making lifespan last longer and longer there are already immortal animals by nature.

Immortality is possible and will become a reality most likely in my lifetime or my childs.

even if your prepared and ready bringing someone into this world is selfish my parents were prepared and ready and brought me into this world and raised me well and i am well off but they were selfish for what they did and i would never bring a child into this world.

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zangeif123 wrote:


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I always hear people say my wish for Immortality is selfish but it's like ....so is your wish to have kids..


Immortality is impossible. Having a child isn't. That's a dumb comparison.

There are of course cases when having a child can be seen as selfish. But I wouldn't clump every case in the same basket.

Having a child isn't selfish if you're prepared and ready (not that anyone is 100% ready for parenthood) Being a parent is the biggest responsibility one could have. It's more selfish having a kid then not being an active part of their lives or unwilling to sacrifice things like time, hobbies or sleep.


Immortality is possible we are making lifespan last longer and longer there are already immortal animals by nature.

Immortality is possible and will become a reality most likely in my lifetime or my childs.



No it won't.....

I think. I'm done here.
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zangeif123 wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


zangeif123 wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:
I always hear people say my wish for Immortality is selfish but it's like ....so is your wish to have kids..


Immortality is impossible. Having a child isn't. That's a dumb comparison.

There are of course cases when having a child can be seen as selfish. But I wouldn't clump every case in the same basket.

Having a child isn't selfish if you're prepared and ready (not that anyone is 100% ready for parenthood) Being a parent is the biggest responsibility one could have. It's more selfish having a kid then not being an active part of their lives or unwilling to sacrifice things like time, hobbies or sleep.


Immortality is possible we are making lifespan last longer and longer there are already immortal animals by nature.

Immortality is possible and will become a reality most likely in my lifetime or my childs.



No it won't.....

I think. I'm done here.



Yes it will happen eventually human lifespans are extendable.
If other animals can be Immortal then Humans can also albeit we are alot more complex.

But you are welcome to be ignorant and deny all the science that says we are heading towards it.
Alot of Scientists even believe we can reach immortality.

Once we cure cancer and aging then humanity has reached that goal as those are what Immortality is.

I'm studying to go into the field that is working towards such research as it is my life goal to help humanity obtain it and we eventually will it's not a matter of possibility its a matter of when.

Humans can be prolonged indefinitely not naturally of course but genetic alteration and cellular regeneration technology and renewal of telemores are just the start to what will become the end game goal.
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Depends on how you intend to raise your hypothetical kid. In general, propagating the species is the least selfish thing you can do.
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Depends on how you intend to raise your hypothetical kid. In general, propagating the species is the least selfish thing you can do.


I think this all comes up to in the end personal opinion.

as i would argue to the end of the world bringing in any life is the most selfish thing you can do
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