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One of the people he claimed as mentor was Bill Airs one of the people bombing federal buildings in the 70's and the dem's got him pardoned.. but i agree he isn't far left Now, but his ideology based on what he wrote in his book, he is more socialist in doctrine than Bernie is.. he just ran as populist like trump did, because if he had run on a far left platform he would have had a harder time than he did.. And when he got in he acted like a Neo-Conservative on war and a Liberal on social issue and financial issues
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One of the people he claimed as mentor was Bill Airs one of the people bombing federal buildings in the 70's and the dem's got him pardoned.. but i agree he isn't far left Now, but his ideology based on what he wrote in his book, he is more socialist in doctrine than Bernie is.. he just ran as populist like trump did, because if he had run on a far left platform he would have had a harder time than he did.. And when he got in he acted like a Neo-Conservative on war and a Liberal on social issue and financial issues


The only things that matter are what actually got done. If anything this country has moved further to the right in the last 8 years. The way I see it, we are about to have 4-8 years of far right leadership, and then we will probably see the far left mobilize in truth. Or not. When you get down to it, this is a very conservative country.
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I agree yea he moved very far from the left to center your right its moved right.. but dont forget left won the culture war.. this was round 2 itll inevitably swing back for round 3
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I agree with what you said, for the most part. People voted for him because he promised to "drain the swamp". Whether or not he'll actually do that, remains to be seen. It's not unusual for candidates to not follow through on their campaign promises, and nothing about Trump leads me to believe him to be any different.
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TheOriginalStraynge wrote:
Anyway, this is just my way of apologizing to those I may have generalized. Once the dust cleared and I was able to sit back and calmly look at things I had to come to the conclusion that there just can't be that many racists out there. People weren't voting so Trump would kick out all of the illegals or ban Muslims. They weren't voting for homosexual conversion therapy or any of that other nonsense. Mainly they were voting their dissatisfaction in a system that they feel is rigged against them and so they made the only choice that seemed logical to them. Try something new.


Nope, no backsies. They voted for this horror showing knowing full well what it entailed. No, not everyone that voted for Trump is a racist, sexist, etc etc etc. But by voting for him they fully condoned his behaviour and sent a message to the rest of the country / world ( including the absolute bowels of it which are racist, sexist, etc and bubbling up ) that this sort of behaviour was acceptable in society. The end result is this vile morass of awfulness we have rising to the surface. Nevermind that they voted for *exactly* what they claimed to be against: Corruption, lies, self serving leaders, etc.

You are responsible for your vote and everything it entailed. No one made you vote a certain way and to be brutally frank every stupid/awful thing he does should hung around the neck of everyone who voted for Trump for the next 4 years and beyond. Because literally every available sign was staring them in the face this entire time. None of what is happening or what will happen is going to be a surprise. You knew, we knew, the world knew.

Own your shit, people.


Me and you might be the ONLY ones here that feel this way.

Bravo, fella. I commend you for thinking on your own and outside of the stupid narrative that is literally everywhere.
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Posted 13 days ago

runec wrote:

Nope, no backsies. They voted for this horror showing knowing full well what it entailed. No, not everyone that voted for Trump is a racist, sexist, etc etc etc. But by voting for him they fully condoned his behaviour and sent a message to the rest of the country / world ( including the absolute bowels of it which are racist, sexist, etc and bubbling up ) that this sort of behaviour was acceptable in society. The end result is this vile morass of awfulness we have rising to the surface. Nevermind that they voted for *exactly* what they claimed to be against: Corruption, lies, self serving leaders, etc.

You are responsible for your vote and everything it entailed. No one made you vote a certain way and to be brutally frank every stupid/awful thing he does should hung around the neck of everyone who voted for Trump for the next 4 years and beyond. Because literally every available sign was staring them in the face this entire time. None of what is happening or what will happen is going to be a surprise. You knew, we knew, the world knew.

Own your shit, people.


To be fair, this is more of a problem with the two-party system. Do you think Hillary or Trump would've gotten even half the votes they received if Americans weren't conditioned to believe that there are only two parties and if you don't vote for one, you're helping the worse one win? When the two most unlikable people in the country become the major party nominees at the same time, this was bound to happen. Doesn't matter if Gandhi was eligible and ran as a third-party or independent. 95% of the voters would still vote for someone just because they have (R) or (D) next to their name. I doubt the majority of people who voted for one of two did so because they actually believed in them or liked them. It was more to try to stop the other from winning. Until this mentality changes, we're going to keep getting stuck with bad candidates winning.

Even among the people who do believe in Trump, many of them felt that the status quo was hurting jobs, the economy, healthcare, etc. and wanted to try something different to fix all those things. Whether or not they voted for the right person to make that happen is questionable, but some people had the right intentions. Of course there are also a lot of racists who are drawn to Trump because his positions are favorable to white supremacists, but those people don't make up a majority of those who voted for him. Just like how feminists (the extreme kind), SJW's, war hawks, etc. don't make up the majority of people who voted for Hillary. Again, this is a result of very different groups of people feeling like they have no choice but to vote for one or the other because these are the only two parties/candidates they believe can win.
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This is the only Red vs Blue I care about


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Honestly the most unnerving thing about all of this is Obama was the 3rd most powerful president of all time... From Lincoln to FDR, Obama granted himself executive action that he had no business signing.. which expanded the power of the executive office.. so. trump will be heading in with that power.. I can only hope after he repeals all that Obama has done which he will.. that he relenquishes that power and uses congress and senate to pass what he wants instead of executive order.. which i think should be illegal.. and is against what every president but those 2 did.. Obama wrote executive orders that bypass current laws on the books.. and the republicans didnt fight it... god I hope they all get evicted.. president is supposed to faithfully enforce and follow laws of congress.. not do whatever he wants with a pen
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Honestly the most unnerving thing about all of this is Obama was the 3rd most powerful president of all time... From Lincoln to FDR, Obama granted himself executive action that he had no business signing.. which expanded the power of the executive office.. so. trump will be heading in with that power.. I can only hope after he repeals all that Obama has done which he will.. that he relenquishes that power and uses congress and senate to pass what he wants instead of executive order.. which i think should be illegal.. and is against what every president but those 2 did.. Obama wrote executive orders that bypass current laws on the books.. and the republicans didnt fight it... god I hope they all get evicted.. president is supposed to faithfully enforce and follow laws of congress.. not do whatever he wants with a pen


President Obama's average approval rate as of right now: 52.5 Percent

Congress Average Approval rate: 11 Percent


Your beliefs do not reflect the people's belief.
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Kernman wrote:

Honestly the most unnerving thing about all of this is Obama was the 3rd most powerful president of all time... From Lincoln to FDR, Obama granted himself executive action that he had no business signing.. which expanded the power of the executive office.. so. trump will be heading in with that power.. I can only hope after he repeals all that Obama has done which he will.. that he relenquishes that power and uses congress and senate to pass what he wants instead of executive order.. which i think should be illegal.. and is against what every president but those 2 did.. Obama wrote executive orders that bypass current laws on the books.. and the republicans didnt fight it... god I hope they all get evicted.. president is supposed to faithfully enforce and follow laws of congress.. not do whatever he wants with a pen


President Obama's average approval rate as of right now: 52.5 Percent

Congress Average Approval rate: 11 Percent


Your beliefs do not reflect the people's belief.


I wish the people would actually do something about that. People focus on president way too much. They need to treat congressional elections with the same scrutiny. Vote damn it, vote again, vote some more... do something! I'm tired of the Comcast shills in my state.
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KennethKenstar wrote:


Kernman wrote:

Honestly the most unnerving thing about all of this is Obama was the 3rd most powerful president of all time... From Lincoln to FDR, Obama granted himself executive action that he had no business signing.. which expanded the power of the executive office.. so. trump will be heading in with that power.. I can only hope after he repeals all that Obama has done which he will.. that he relenquishes that power and uses congress and senate to pass what he wants instead of executive order.. which i think should be illegal.. and is against what every president but those 2 did.. Obama wrote executive orders that bypass current laws on the books.. and the republicans didnt fight it... god I hope they all get evicted.. president is supposed to faithfully enforce and follow laws of congress.. not do whatever he wants with a pen


President Obama's average approval rate as of right now: 52.5 Percent

Congress Average Approval rate: 11 Percent


Your beliefs do not reflect the people's belief.


I wish the people would actually do something about that. People focus on president way too much. They need to treat congressional elections with the same scrutiny. Vote damn it, vote again, vote some more... do something! I'm tired of the Comcast shills in my state.


http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-973665/donald-fraud-will-probably-end-net-neutrality?pg=0

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I couldn't agree with you more . And you are right from what I can tell it wasn't about race either just as you said a dissatisfaction with our system. Hopefully something good comes out of all this.

Nice to see some people are willing to stay peaceful regardless of their opinions of the election.


This. ^
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Nope, no backsies. They voted for this horror showing knowing full well what it entailed. No, not everyone that voted for Trump is a racist, sexist, etc etc etc. But by voting for him they fully condoned his behaviour and sent a message to the rest of the country / world ( including the absolute bowels of it which are racist, sexist, etc and bubbling up ) that this sort of behaviour was acceptable in society. The end result is this vile morass of awfulness we have rising to the surface. Nevermind that they voted for *exactly* what they claimed to be against: Corruption, lies, self serving leaders, etc.

You are responsible for your vote and everything it entailed. No one made you vote a certain way and to be brutally frank every stupid/awful thing he does should hung around the neck of everyone who voted for Trump for the next 4 years and beyond. Because literally every available sign was staring them in the face this entire time. None of what is happening or what will happen is going to be a surprise. You knew, we knew, the world knew.

Own your shit, people.


You are a truly bad person. I can honestly see you wearing a swastika in 1933 Germany loud and proud.
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yeah the people who are supposedly tolerant are always the most fascistic people.. they protest a democratically elected outcome to our vote.. they want to force us to their views.. bunch of benito mussolinis
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runec wrote:
Nope, no backsies. They voted for this horror showing knowing full well what it entailed. No, not everyone that voted for Trump is a racist, sexist, etc etc etc. But by voting for him they fully condoned his behaviour and sent a message to the rest of the country / world ( including the absolute bowels of it which are racist, sexist, etc and bubbling up ) that this sort of behaviour was acceptable in society. The end result is this vile morass of awfulness we have rising to the surface. Nevermind that they voted for *exactly* what they claimed to be against: Corruption, lies, self serving leaders, etc.

You are responsible for your vote and everything it entailed. No one made you vote a certain way and to be brutally frank every stupid/awful thing he does should hung around the neck of everyone who voted for Trump for the next 4 years and beyond. Because literally every available sign was staring them in the face this entire time. None of what is happening or what will happen is going to be a surprise. You knew, we knew, the world knew.

Own your shit, people.


You are a truly bad person. I can honestly see you wearing a swastika in 1933 Germany loud and proud.


The truth hurts, feller. No reason to be calling someone a Nazi. You should be calling him a Professor. He professes the truth. To you. For free.

And you don't even appreciate it.
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