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Post Reply Japan Deputy Prime minister: no point relying on US newspapers, they are always wrong
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Posted 11/21/16 , edited 11/21/16


https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5e3txy/japanese_official_no_point_in_making_policy_based/

You know your media is corrupt, lying, and useless when your allies call it out for being the shit that it is. We need to let the old media go bankrupt and get a new one that can actually be neutral and tell the news without spinning it or flat out lying/making up numbers.

Our media stinks like Goebbels sponsored newspapers.
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Posted 11/21/16
original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjyz-NtENhI
in Japanese. it goes without saying.
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namealreadytaken wrote:

original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjyz-NtENhI
in Japanese. it goes without saying.


Someone needs to subtitle this....

TPP was mentioned a lot.
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The new media would just be backed by billionaries, the same as the old. Except they would no longer even pay lip service to the idea of neutrality, because it would consist of the same hyper partisan, populist shitbags that currently live in the blogosphere already.
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Balzack wrote:

The new media would just be backed by billionaries, the same as the old. Except they would no longer even pay lip service to the idea of neutrality, because it would consist of the same hyper partisan, populist shitbags that currently live in the blogosphere already.

same shit different party

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Sensational headlines and dynamic, unusual, emotionally provoking reporting generates more interest.

It doesn't change no matter where you are.

But, there are reputable sources other than newspapers and biased Facebook articles. In the information age, with so much instantly-accessible information at your fingertips, ignorance is a choice.

You also need to learn to sift information through a mental sieve to reduce bias and remain objective. Usually, media does not lie about factual findings. This is because it's so easy to get sued and lose when you blatantly lie about facts and don't do research necessary to verify objective facts at their face. You can't win a suit like that when the other party scrapes up even a shred of evidence that proves factual discrepancy.

Instead, they usually twist things when framing them with intent and by making faulty connections with other facts. This category of stuff is far more subjective and difficult to prove one way or another as long as all the baseline facts are still good. You need to be able to spot this in order to pick out baseline facts and look at them sensibly.
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namealreadytaken wrote:

original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjyz-NtENhI
in Japanese. it goes without saying.


Someone needs to subtitle this....

TPP was mentioned a lot.


i found could get translated subtitles by going to the settings option and setting itso it gives translated subtitles not necessarily the best translation but seems to work
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How about breaking up the ownership of the media. There used to be a time when the same entity was not allowed to own all of the news outlets in the same market. There were tons of newspapers with tons of differing ways of reporting the same news story. They had always added their slant to how it was reported. People picked news papers the way, people pick political parties.

In those days, through dialog (the editorial page and the opinion page) opposing views were exchanged. In those days, smart people bought two, three, or even four newspapers, to read about the same story. This way they could sift out the crud and get to the truth. They also got to read the varying viewpoints of more than one editor, and opinion writer.

The way it is now? Six entities own almost all of the news media in the U.S. No matter what paper you read, or what news station you listen to, or watch, they all report very uniformly, and have very uniform opinions. The ability to listen to various stations, channels, or to read various papers and magazines to get various points of view is gone.

As a consumer of news, we no longer are able to sift out the crud, to get to the truth. So, what if we petition the President to break up ownership of the news media?

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I guess he is saying they are....as Taro-ble Aso they thought in Japan.
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Posted 11/21/16

DeadlyOats wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjyz-NtENhI
in Japanese. it goes without saying.


Someone needs to subtitle this....

TPP was mentioned a lot.


You can use youtubes CC feature to make Googles bot translate for you. Keep in mind it's not the best translation
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DeadlyOats wrote:

How about breaking up the ownership of the media. There used to be a time when the same entity was not allowed to own all of the news outlets in the same market. There were tons of newspapers with tons of differing ways of reporting the same news story. They had always added their slant to how it was reported. People picked news papers the way, people pick political parties.

In those days, through dialog (the editorial page and the opinion page) opposing views were exchanged. In those days, smart people bought two, three, or even four newspapers, to read about the same story. This way they could sift out the crud and get to the truth. They also got to read the varying viewpoints of more than one editor, and opinion writer.

The way it is now? Six entities own almost all of the news media in the U.S. No matter what paper you read, or what news station you listen to, or watch, they all report very uniformly, and have very uniform opinions. The ability to listen to various stations, channels, or to read various papers and magazines to get various points of view is gone.

As a consumer of news, we no longer are able to sift out the crud, to get to the truth. So, what if we petition the President to break up ownership of the news media?



The solution appears to be closer than one might believe, which is the ease of the internet to launch new stories by the average Joe. Heck, I think that is how it is used to counteract the control of the media by governing powers in my home country, which is to simply watch reports by civilians, overlooked radio shows, etc.
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So is there any context behind the statement, or is one flashy headline good enough?
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Posted 11/21/16

qwueri wrote:

So is there any context behind the statement, or is one flashy headline good enough?


remember how every American media told people that Hillary had a 90+ % chance of winning. at one point, CNN claimed it was 95% chance....then the election happened.
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namealreadytaken wrote:

remember how every American media told people that Hillary had a 90+ % chance of winning. at one point, CNN claimed it was 95% chance....then the election happened.


Yes, the media bought too heavily into polls. Is that what he's referring to, or is it just the default excuse for knee-jerking every story that pops up on facebook?
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