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Post Reply if we solely did paper vote, will the "hacking" rhetoric dissapear?
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there will always be fraud

but if we went paper nation wide, then you cant blame "hacking" right? or Russia


so then also what would the left blame it on?
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I don't know maybe suddenly some of them were to...uh vanish due to "clerical error".
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Postal workers
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Posted 13 days ago

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Postal workers


well I mean that's absentee voting, what about the day of, voting
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Postal workers


also, jokes on them, he won ohio
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Hanging Chads 2: Florida Boogaloo.

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Paper votes are even easier to fake. There isn't a perfect solution. We just have to trust technology, but it's understandable why some people don't. It's probably for the best, I don't really want to live in a country where people stop worrying about voting fraud/security. Better to be too vigilant than lax.
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Postal workers

That was proven fake a long time ago

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Posted 13 days ago
Paper is much more simple imo.
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Paper votes are even easier to fake. There isn't a perfect solution. We just have to trust technology, but it's understandable why some people don't. It's probably for the best, I don't really want to live in a country where people stop worrying about voting fraud/security. Better to be too vigilant than lax.


The voting machines are closed source and they store votes as doubles instead of integers. It should be open source and all votes should be integers.
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Posted 13 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tbo2uSon8E

I think i would use this quote in reference.

You can still manipulate the system paper or not.
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Posted 13 days ago

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kinga750 wrote:

Paper votes are even easier to fake. There isn't a perfect solution. We just have to trust technology, but it's understandable why some people don't. It's probably for the best, I don't really want to live in a country where people stop worrying about voting fraud/security. Better to be too vigilant than lax.


The voting machines are closed source and they store votes as doubles instead of integers. It should be open source and all votes should be integers.


Honestly I don't know much about it. It's usually safe to assume that things are not being done in the best way possible though
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kinga750 wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


kinga750 wrote:

Paper votes are even easier to fake. There isn't a perfect solution. We just have to trust technology, but it's understandable why some people don't. It's probably for the best, I don't really want to live in a country where people stop worrying about voting fraud/security. Better to be too vigilant than lax.


The voting machines are closed source and they store votes as doubles instead of integers. It should be open source and all votes should be integers.


Honestly I don't know much about it. It's usually safe to assume that things are not being done in the best way possible though


Integers are whole numbers like 1,2,3

Doubles are numbers like 5.3, 7.23, 8.34
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You always need a physical copy. If it ain't on paper it doesn't exist. Get that through your heads.

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Integers are whole numbers like 1,2,3

Doubles are numbers like 5.3, 7.23, 8.34


I remember this from highschool, but why is storing the votes as integers better than doubles? Is it just '1' vs '1.0'? Why does that matter?
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