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Why do people keep blaming Shonen Jump?
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Posted 12/17/16 , edited 12/17/16

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I've literally never heard anyone complain that Bleach got axed.


I think it's mainly the people who were keeping up to date on it, in other words, the hardcore fans. They seem to think that Kubo could do no wrong and that it's all the publishers fault. I facepalm every time I read an ignorant comment that bashes everyone but the author himself (who was known for not getting along w/ the staff).
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Posted 12/17/16 , edited 12/18/16
I don't think Jump's at fault for so many series getting axed, other than them just accepting so many #1s; doesn't mean I'm not sad about it of course. Though I DO think Shonen has a couple other big problems. It seems a hard company to work for long term, I don't know how anyone does it, and keeps a consistent quality.
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Posted 12/18/16 , edited 12/18/16
I don't like Jump's way of just axing things the second they fall in sales without giving the author any time to make changes to see if things can be turned around.

Now having said that, this has been their MO for how long now? The authors know that going in and if they accept being published in Jump, it's the reality they have to deal with. Unfortunately that also leaves the readers high and dry, but it's how it is. It's why I try and keep the ongoing series I'm reading to a limit. At this point it's Shokugeki no Souma and My Hero Academia. I won't touch anything else ongoing until they are done because I am so sick of manga getting axed. Jump gets the attention because they are so big, but they are not the only ones who do it. There is nothing that I hate more than starting something that never gets finished.

It's also not always the author's fault as some have alleged. A work can be good and still not grab a big enough audience, especially for Jump. That's not to say that's always the case of course. Sometimes things just suck.
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Posted 12/18/16 , edited 12/18/16

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I don't like Jump's way of just axing things the second they fall in sales without giving the author any time to make changes to see if things can be turned around.

Now having said that, this has been their MO for how long now? The authors know that going in and if they accept being published in Jump, it's the reality they have to deal with. Unfortunately that also leaves the readers high and dry, but it's how it is. It's why I try and keep the ongoing series I'm reading to a limit. At this point it's Shokugeki no Souma and My Hero Academia. I won't touch anything else ongoing until they are done because I am so sick of manga getting axed. Jump gets the attention because they are so big, but they are not the only ones who do it. There is nothing that I hate more than starting something that never gets finished.

It's also not always the author's fault as some have alleged. A work can be good and still not grab a big enough audience, especially for Jump. That's not to say that's always the case of course. Sometimes things just suck.


They give them like a month dude. As my main in Bakuman said "If it's Interesting it gets published." Also don't touch hunter or baserk if you like manga finish.
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Posted 12/18/16 , edited 12/18/16
I think that it's mainly because there are some fans out there, thinking that the Jump is just there to satisfy their minds. They don't sympathize with the authors and the editors, they don't care about the industry, they just want the chapters and they just want to have fun reading their favorite series. I don't think that it's bad, but they should think that the chapter they are reading, was created with a lot of pain, anxiety and love. They don't have the right to judge a magazine or a publishing company, when they don't work for the same industry. I am a fun for more than 10 years, and I want to tell all of the Bleach, Toriko, ....fans one thing. All the axed series were axed because of the author's inability to make the story right. I won't accept anyone who tells me that bleach was ok, because it wasn't. The series had already obtained a cancellation alert the year before. It's rankings were bad, it was bottom last. Jump is not to be accused. You can accuse anyone else, except the industry. A company's goal is to make money, not satisfy your pleasures. I liked Hungry Joker, it was axed, so what? Don't be naive and look at the situation like adults would. Don't be just some kids. (And I am not american, english or australian, thus my english are not that great, cut me some slack!!)
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Posted 12/18/16 , edited 12/18/16

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hyjinx17 wrote:

I don't like Jump's way of just axing things the second they fall in sales without giving the author any time to make changes to see if things can be turned around.

Now having said that, this has been their MO for how long now? The authors know that going in and if they accept being published in Jump, it's the reality they have to deal with. Unfortunately that also leaves the readers high and dry, but it's how it is. It's why I try and keep the ongoing series I'm reading to a limit. At this point it's Shokugeki no Souma and My Hero Academia. I won't touch anything else ongoing until they are done because I am so sick of manga getting axed. Jump gets the attention because they are so big, but they are not the only ones who do it. There is nothing that I hate more than starting something that never gets finished.

It's also not always the author's fault as some have alleged. A work can be good and still not grab a big enough audience, especially for Jump. That's not to say that's always the case of course. Sometimes things just suck.


They give them like a month dude. As my main in Bakuman said "If it's Interesting it gets published." Also don't touch hunter or baserk if you like manga finish.


a month is not enough time to receive criticism, make changes and see an impact from those changes. A month is only 4 chapters, but like I said, the authors know that going in so if they choose to be published by them, they know they are fucked if they don't instantly grab an audience. Like if we were in the first couple years of Jump the outrage would be understandable, but this isn't anything new for them. Any new series that starts in Jump you should just assume is going to get canceled.

and yeah, I'm not touching either of those series. Good chance Hunter x Hunter's author is going to die before it gets anywhere near finished with how often he has to take sick leave and Berserk's author is too busy watching idolmaster.
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Posted 12/18/16 , edited 12/18/16
I'm not blaming them.
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Posted 12/18/16 , edited 12/19/16

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Jump also said he had two years to finish that arc and he worked on it like 3. If he did not drag his fights out for no reason he could have had more time on the story. Also let's not act like Kubo is some master writer. His art is what got bleach published and as big as it was not his story.
4 years, IIRC.

He took too long. That's really all there is to say.

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Year-end cleanup. Closing threads with no new posts since 12/31/2016.
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