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Seriously, this thread is a perfect example of how we LET this shit divide us by race.

These people were radical, terrorist racists, and claimed to be Black Panther. Many KKK/ White Supremacists are radical, terrorist racists.

It is unacceptable no matter what skin color.

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Reading through some of these comments reminds me of why it's important to diversify your information sources. Otherwise you end up living in a bubble where the news just reinforces your every belief, and you're never exposed to differing opinions.

I'm not gonna mention specific names, but in this thread and others, some of you aren't shy with hiding your biases. It's not clear whether you're aware of it and don't care, or you just don't see it.

Limiting yourself to information sources that lean only left/right isn't going to help you with critical thinking.

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It seems like you go searching for more reasons to hate rather than trying to find understanding.
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Posted 16 days ago , edited 15 days ago

IShouldBeStudying wrote:


It seems like you go searching for more reasons to hate rather than trying to find understanding.


What is there to understand?
Media lied, people died, cars and buildings burned and looted


ChinaCat89 wrote:



Limiting yourself to information sources that lean only left/right isn't going to help you with critical thinking.

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Exactly
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear

I get my information from everywhere, it really helps to see through some of the blatant media lies and deception.
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Why isn't every single chapter of the KKK on a terrorist list? They have been doing this shit for years and the public has turned a blind eye to it


Has the KKK actually done anything besides rant and complain for the past 16 years? The only signs of life I ever get from them is some clansman newspaper popping up around elections.
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Rujikin wrote:


uncletim wrote:

Why isn't every single chapter of the KKK on a terrorist list? They have been doing this shit for years and the public has turned a blind eye to it


Has the KKK actually done anything besides rant and complain for the past 16 years? The only signs of life I ever get from them is some clansman newspaper popping up around elections.


Blowing up churches Lynchings voter intimidation. Yes I know those are past acts but that does not excuse it and to the best of my knowledge BLM never did any of those those things yet people want label them criminals and terrorist but not the Klan
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Right, before anything else lets just get this out of the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYy77IGsBFc



Edwards also talked of using the incident as a diversion so he could commit crimes elsewhere - such as robbing a bank - while the police were tied up at the elementary school, but backed out of that plan.


That's a rather odd either/or for a supposed race war martyr. Not too committed to the Cause(tm).



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That's not necessarily true. I've met lots of people who claimed to be something they were not, so that they could further their arguments, or add legitimacy to their claims.

And, even if they really were members, that does not mean that the whole organization had been leaning in that direction. The Black Panthers do exist, but do you think that they're gonna do things one married couple at a time? If it really was an organizational movement, we should have been seeing all kinds of coordinated actions, not just a lone wolf action.

BLM was a disorganized movement that started spontaneously in response to a perceived bias in police shooting Black people. The Black Panther movement is / was an organized movement with a doctrine, an agenda, and registered members. They are NOT THE SAME THING.

Stop lumping people, groups, and ideas into a single category. It does nothing to advance any meaningful dialog.



Well said.



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Reading through some of these comments reminds me of why it's important to diversify your information sources. Otherwise you end up living in a bubble where the news just reinforces your every belief, and you're never exposed to differing opinions.


You mean turning something a meme doesn't make it true? The heck you say.
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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/11/pair_charged_in_explosive_devi.html

Is it time yet for the president to label Black Panthers and their affiliates terror groups?



Black Panther Party is already flagged as an extremist group in the FBI database.
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You mean turning something a meme doesn't make it true? The heck you say.


memes != pictures with words
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uncletim wrote:

Why isn't every single chapter of the KKK on a terrorist list? They have been doing this shit for years and the public has turned a blind eye to it



cmon, you probably have an idea why...
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uncletim wrote:


Rujikin wrote:


uncletim wrote:

Why isn't every single chapter of the KKK on a terrorist list? They have been doing this shit for years and the public has turned a blind eye to it


Has the KKK actually done anything besides rant and complain for the past 16 years? The only signs of life I ever get from them is some clansman newspaper popping up around elections.


Blowing up churches Lynchings voter intimidation. Yes I know those are past acts but that does not excuse it and to the best of my knowledge BLM never did any of those those things yet people want label them criminals and terrorist but not the Klan


I said within the last 16 years.... Do you know of anything in the last 16 years?
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MakotoKamui wrote:


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Pretty sure it's not confirmed if he really is a black panther.


What, is there like some kind of initiation ritual or something?
If he said he was, that's all that matters.


Going to have to pause a minute to ask if you're really sure about that last part. If they say they are (member of group), that's all that matters. And, by implication of your opening post, we should assume an act by a claimed member of (group) means that we should label (group) as terrorists.

I mean, insert Black Panthers there as "group" if you want, I just want to be sure I'm understanding you correctly.


By that logic, the KKK is just a men's club...
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Didn't the leader of the blank panthers endorse Trump or am I thinking of another guy?
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Emtro wrote:

By that logic, the KKK is just a men's club...


The point being made is that if we are uncertain whether or not a terrorist actually has substantial ties to a group they've claimed to be acting on behalf of it makes no sense to blindly assume that they have those ties and hold their named group accountable from the outset as though we were already certain of the matter. If during the investigation ties should indeed emerge between these men and the Black Panthers the authorities should act accordingly. If those ties do not emerge it makes no sense to act as though they're there simply because these men said they are, and the Black Panthers shouldn't be associated with them despite their claims.

The burden of proof lies on the accuser's shoulders, not the defendant's, in a proper justice system.
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