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Posted 11 days ago

octorockandroll wrote:

Who gives a shit? He was already out of power, this really doesn't mean a whole lot.




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He passed power onto his brother years ago, I doubt much will change with his passing.


Even though he retired, he didn't completely retire. He "coached from behind the scenes." I think, now that he's passed, things will change a hell of a lot faster.
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Posted 11 days ago

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octorockandroll wrote:

Who gives a shit? He was already out of power, this really doesn't mean a whole lot.




qwueri wrote:

He passed power onto his brother years ago, I doubt much will change with his passing.


Even though he retired, he didn't completely retire. He "coached from behind the scenes." I think, now that he's passed, things will change a hell of a lot faster.


Things were changing pretty fast already though. I mean just look at how friendly the US and Cuba are getting. Castro was ridiculously anti-US as I recall.
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Posted 11 days ago

octorockandroll wrote:

Who gives a shit? He was already out of power, this really doesn't mean a whole lot.


This actually means a lot for Cubans and for South Florida. It kinda a big deal.
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Posted 11 days ago , edited 11 days ago

zangeif123 wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Who gives a shit? He was already out of power, this really doesn't mean a whole lot.


This actually means a lot for Cubans and for South Florida. It kinda a big deal.


I meant that it really didn't mean much for Cuba's current condition, which was something implied in the OP.
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His brother has been running things for a while now, and is just as bad. But! There's some justice in his death.
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Posted 11 days ago , edited 11 days ago

octorockandroll wrote:

I meant that it really didn't mean much for Cuba's current condition, which was something implied in the OP.


It means a lot to the hearts of Cubans & Cuban exiles. It's a signal of hope and change.

I know Raul is in charge but even he has made little strides. Opening up WiFi spots, opening travel from U.S. to Cuba, and meeting with Obama (even though it was a faux)

It's not much much but these little steps and the fading of the old regime isn't worth a "who gives a shit?"
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Posted 11 days ago , edited 11 days ago

zangeif123 wrote:

It means a lot to the hearts of Cubans & Cuban exiles. It's a signal of hope and change.

I know Raul is in charge but even he has made little strides. Opening up WiFi spots, opening travel from U.S. to Cuba, and meeting with Obama (even though it was a faux)

It's not much much but these little steps and the fading of the old regime isn't worth a "who gives a shit?"


My point was that these changes were already happening during Fidel's life, what with him having given up power and all, so his death really doesn't mark a big change seeing as the power had already changed hands.
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Posted 11 days ago , edited 11 days ago

octorockandroll wrote:

My point was that these changes were already happening during Fidel's life, what with him having given up power and all, so his death really doesn't mark a big change seeing as the power had already changed hands.


And my point is this is a step. It's not worth a "who gives a shit?" Because it's worth a lotta shit.
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Hard to judge guy, i know communism in Latin America was different than in Eastern Europe, where everyone knew it was "Brought by Russian bayonets" as we used to say in Poland.
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The Revolution has died.


^^ THIS
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Without fidel who will fill the role of El Presidente?! This will be chaos in the game community!





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Never heard anything good about him, but meh, I don't even bother with the news.
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This will be a huge deal for some people, and only worthy of a shrug from others. I expect no changes in the immediate future, as Fidel's brother has been in charge for some time and I expect him to continue to lead the country until he too, becomes too old to carry out his duties. I doubt that there will be any further thaw of relations, beyond what the Obama administration has allowed, until then. It's what happens after that first generation of Cuban communists is gone that matters, because barring another, second generation of Castros at the helm, there will be a scramble for power in the vacuum left behind and these things have a habit of ending badly for a lot of people. I was not a fan of Castro, by any means, but there was a sort of stability to his reign, brutal as it was. U.S. presidencies came and went and yet he remained, a constant presence in the Caribbean, stuck in the 1950s behind the invisible wall created by the embargo. Sometimes it seemed as if he would always be there, like a fly stuck in amber, with the bushy beard and the cigar, an irritating reminder to the U.S. that no matter what they threw at him, outside of all-out war, he'd survive it. In that regard, he was much like the Kims in N. Korea, barricaded against modernity, insulated by the spell created by the cults surrounding their larger-than-life personalities (as well as the guns, bullets and prisons at their command). I'm not sorry he's gone, because that cult will outlive him, at least for a while.

Of course, I don't think the U.S. has the time to worry about what happens in Cuba. It's hard to nitpick about what goes on with our neighbors when our own living room is on fire.
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Posted 11 days ago , edited 11 days ago
Disappointed that President Obama, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and more are actually expressing mourning over his death, but not surprised if I'll be honest.

The only thing Castro did that makes them like him, is that he pretty much ran the nation like a communist one (if you ignore him being a dictator), and in the same stroke that they mourn his death they also approve of his institutional racism against black Cubans, the mass-murders committed in the name of politics and staying in power. They approve of the killing of those who wanted to resist his power, those who tried fleeing him.

They pretty much approve of a dictator that committed mass-murder.

To use a popular word nowadays, it's utterly deplorable.

Here's some brief reading to backup my statements.

https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/802555790825496576

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Cuba
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Posted 11 days ago
I remember playing him in Black Ops 1 zombies map Five :'( RIP m8
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