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so i weigh 113kg 249 pounds.

I used to weight 100kg but went down to 90kg (via my method described later) but depression hit me and i got suicidal anyhow i drink a liter of cola a day
(its the only thing that helps me cope and diet soda makes me sick and i need to flavour water to drink it as it also makes me sick which is just as fattening as cola)

But anyhow i generally drink a litre of cola 400 cals and goto the gym and do a workout that generally burns roughly 400 cals (apparently i don't believe you can find out the specifics but i tend to spend an hour or two at the gym doing different things.

The reason i don't lose weight is because i eat alot of food now my problem is everyone tells me to eat for nutrition so i do that but i always feel hungry and it hurts so i eat more to make the pain stop (which is worse then the pain of overdosing)

The way i was losing weight before was i was just doing what i do now but i was eating noodles mixed with a few vegetables (i hardly eat fruit or veg as most make me sick due to texture and taste however with things such as noodles i seem to be able to eat them)

So i was doing this losing weight but people kept telling me to stop and eat more nutritional food so i did and i gained weight and can't lose it.

Now im conflicted because on one hand i know what i can do to lose weight but it won't be nutritionally as good or i can just eat nutritionally good food then suffer to immense pain.

I really just want to stick with what was working Pasta Veg and rice but im not sure maybe others are right and its better for me to be obese and nutritionally better then to be thin again and nuritionally not well off?

Im so confused as it seems like the only choice where i can be thin and healthy is one where i constantly am in pain all the time and i have a super low pain tolerance.

Im going back to doing what was working before but i wanted opinions on the matter.
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whats ur height
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Working is barely anything. Eating is the thing that changes you. 400 calories of coke is nearly a whole meal.

Eat less and you will lose weight. I used to weight 245 at my peak. I now weight like 165
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whats ur height


171 cm
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Working is barely anything. Eating is the thing that changes you. 400 calories of coke is nearly a whole meal.

Eat less and you will lose weight. I used to weight 245 at my peak. I now weight like 165


Eating less is not an option when you are in severe pain if you eat less.
The only counteraction I have found is to eat more filling foods such as pasta and rice.
I eat way less calories and food wise and feel normal and healthier like that.

I know it's a whole meals worth but it's either swapping it for something like smoking or drinking as my psychologist isn't alone to help me cope.

Drinking and smoking would be worse on my health.


The problem with people saying eat less is that it doesn't magically solve the reason the person is eating more in the first place aka severe pain (yes I have seen the doctor about it he can't do anything )

Don't get me wrong I agree with you 100% but it's just I have a good reason why I don't eat less.
My only found solution has lack of nutrition as a side effect
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alright, are you working out cardio or building muscle?
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alright, are you working out cardio or building muscle?


I'm trying to do a bit of both I mostly do cardio but I'm starting to life weights whenever I can it's difficult since they are mostly occupied at the gym so I'm thinking of getting some for my house
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well, from all the people I use to know who were even bigger than you, when they were trying to lose weight, it took them forever to do so by doing cardio. When they switched over to muscle building, they lost weight way faster. I believe it occurs since building muscles requires a lot of calories(hence why bodybuilders go on bulk and try and eat as much calories as possible)
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I think you have to be in a 500 calorie deficit to lose weight, I'm not sure but that's what I heard. I think cutting out soda and sweets will help immensely with losing weight as well. Drinking enough water will help too (also helps clear skin). Gym is good! Lifting weights will help you drop body fat percentage and gain muscle mass. Also make sure to include cardio. It's all about carbs, it fuels you with energy but too much energy can lead to it being stored as fat (making you gain weight). You should have a balance between protein, carbs & fats. You might be eating too much carbs and on top of that, the soda you're drinking. Nutrition is honestly key to a healthy lifestyle and losing weight appropriately with going to the gym.

What kind of pain do you experience?
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well, from all the people I use to know who were even bigger than you, when they were trying to lose weight, it took them forever to do so by doing cardio. When they switched over to muscle building, they lost weight way faster. I believe it occurs since building muscles requires a lot of calories(hence why bodybuilders go on bulk and try and eat as much calories as possible)


Hmm ill try doing that thanks!
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I think you have to be in a 500 calorie deficit to lose weight, I'm not sure but that's what I heard. I think cutting out soda and sweets will help immensely with losing weight as well. Drinking enough water will help too (also helps clear skin). Gym is good! Lifting weights will help you drop body fat percentage and gain muscle mass. Also make sure to include cardio. It's all about carbs, it fuels you with energy but too much energy can lead to it being stored as fat (making you gain weight). You should have a balance between protein, carbs & fats. You might be eating too much carbs and on top of that, the soda you're drinking. Nutrition is honestly key to a healthy lifestyle and losing weight appropriately with going to the gym.

What kind of pain do you experience?




I agree i need to cut the sweets the problem is what to replace them with as i need something to help cope with life the only thing i can think of is smoking.

I experience a blunt like pain in my stomach and its so bad that i can't do anything but lie down its so painful.
I drink water but i flavour it a tiny bit since i can't drink water by itself (not sure why but i get sick ongoing chasing up with my doctor to try find out why)

The problem with me balancing between protein , carbs and fats that i have always found is i can only eat very few foods im Autistic and have sensory issues and many other issues that make most fruits and vegetables basically inedible i have over the years found a few ways to eat stuff like potato becomes edible if mixed with milk.

I am eating to much carbs on top of that and the soda i have no doubt in my mind that those are my two problems its just the two problems caused by fixing that and becoming slim and healthy area.

1. unable to cope with life and function normally.
2. Constant pain.

I was seeing a specialist for what i eat etc for a while she said she couldn't help me seeing as i vomit and start to get sick (high temperature) when i eat most of the foods she told me to eat so that was discouraging.

The only thing that has helped was my pasta and rice only diet which is obviously nutritionally bad.

So that's where my problem is i have been trying to deal with this and figure out a solution for 4-6 years now been to many psychologists and doctors for my issues and nothing has changed.

I was just about to say fuck it and go back to eating rice and pasta and losing weight and not caring as much about my nutrition but i thought yknow maybe someone here has an idea that may help.

The problem at the end of the day is pain , coping and sensory issues those are the three thing stopping me from eating healthy and im not sure how to fix any of them and after 6 years of psychologist visits etc im starting to think maybe i won't ever cope without some form of thing to relax me (i have only ever found ingestible things like drinks and food or drugs to help me cope tried many sports and hobbies and working out etc all of them just do the opposite my psychologist can't even explain to me why i find it so hard to cope.)

(That being said many people with my disability who can't cope end up committing suicide or using something like weed like my friend with Autism uses sadly it's highly illegal here so i can't use it)
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I'll just give general tips on what's worked for me.

1. Prioritize muscle building

Doing cardio is fine, but at the end of the day, lifting weights is what changes your body composition. Cardio does not. Getting stronger and building muscle alters your resting metabolic rate. Cardiovascular activity (especially the type you normally see in gyms) burns calories while working out, but after the workout is done your metabolism returns to baseline. When you are building muscle, your metabolism is heightened for up to 48 hours after the workout. The more lean body mass (i.e., muscle) your body has, the more fat you can burn off simply because muscle is more metabolically active.

2. Don't stick to one type of diet

I had been lifting for years already but never took my nutrition seriously so at one point I changed my diet. I reduced my carbohydrate intake by quite a bit and instead increased fats while keeping protein high. My body burned through my glycogen stores and I became leaner. I thought this was the holy grail of diets so I stuck to this for a long time. The result? No results. It was essentially a case of diminishing returns because my body was getting used to it.

More recently (as in April 2016) I was essentially in a stalemate. I had a trip to Korea and Japan planned for August / September and I wanted to be in decent shape for it. I read that when you have intense workouts, you need carbohydrates to fuel and recover. I was basically doing the opposite of this. So what I did was to dramatically increase my overall calorie intake (mostly through carbs). I gained weight, but then after that, it slowly started to taper off when I reduced fats. Around May / June 2016 I was 200 lbs. By the time my trip came about, I was 184 lbs, and when I got back from my trip I was 178 lbs. As I type this right now I am 183 lbs. Lesson learned? Eat for the type of activity you are doing. If you are sedentary then it does not make sense for you to load up on carbohydrates because your body won't know what to do with them. If you are active, then you need carbohydrates.

3. Caloric deficits are the real deal

At the end of the day, it's about balance. If you are consuming more calories than you are burning, you will never lose weight. Even if you exercise. In line with this, not all calories are equal. For example, if your target is to consume say, 200 calories for a snack, if the 200 calories are all from sugar then it would still adversely affect your body.

4. SLEEP

It's when you are resting that your body does all the work. Lifting weights tears your down so if you don't recover then it's all for nothing. I always make it a point to get my 8 hours.

There were times when I had to work 12 pm to 8 pm. I didn't want to lift after work so what I did was to sleep as soon as I got home, wake up at 4 am and then go to the gym. It wasn't fun, but my body didn't hate me.

5. Consistency

Pick a goal and stick to it. 'Nuff said.
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I'll just give general tips on what's worked for me.

1. Prioritize muscle building

Doing cardio is fine, but at the end of the day, lifting weights is what changes your body composition. Cardio does not. Getting stronger and building muscle alters your resting metabolic rate. Cardiovascular activity (especially the type you normally see in gyms) burns calories while working out, but after the workout is done your metabolism returns to baseline. When you are building muscle, your metabolism is heightened for up to 48 hours after the workout. The more lean body mass (i.e., muscle) your body has, the more fat you can burn off simply because muscle is more metabolically active.

2. Don't stick to one type of diet

I had been lifting for years already but never took my nutrition seriously so at one point I changed my diet. I reduced my carbohydrate intake by quite a bit and instead increased fats while keeping protein high. My body burned through my glycogen stores and I became leaner. I thought this was the holy grail of diets so I stuck to this for a long time. The result? No results. It was essentially a case of diminishing returns because my body was getting used to it.

More recently (as in April 2016) I was essentially in a stalemate. I had a trip to Korea and Japan planned for August / September and I wanted to be in decent shape for it. I read that when you have intense workouts, you need carbohydrates to fuel and recover. I was basically doing the opposite of this. So what I did was to dramatically increase my overall calorie intake (mostly through carbs). I gained weight, but then after that, it slowly started to taper off when I reduced fats. Around May / June 2016 I was 200 lbs. By the time my trip came about, I was 184 lbs, and when I got back from my trip I was 178 lbs. As I type this right now I am 183 lbs. Lesson learned? Eat for the type of activity you are doing. If you are sedentary then it does not make sense for you to load up on carbohydrates because your body won't know what to do with them. If you are active, then you need carbohydrates.

3. Caloric deficits are the real deal

At the end of the day, it's about balance. If you are consuming more calories than you are burning, you will never lose weight. Even if you exercise. In line with this, not all calories are equal. For example, if your target is to consume say, 200 calories for a snack, if the 200 calories are all from sugar then it would still adversely affect your body.

4. SLEEP

It's when you are resting that your body does all the work. Lifting weights tears your down so if you don't recover then it's all for nothing. I always make it a point to get my 8 hours.

There were times when I had to work 12 pm to 8 pm. I didn't want to lift after work so what I did was to sleep as soon as I got home, wake up at 4 am and then go to the gym. It wasn't fun, but my body didn't hate me.

5. Consistency

Pick a goal and stick to it. 'Nuff said.


Thanks!
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