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Posted 12/6/16 , edited 12/7/16

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A little lesson in logic:


Failing to follow logic doesn't qualify you to give lessons. If you cannot see the parallel then you are incapable of judging the issue. Perhaps some time with square and round pegs would be a more productive use of your judging abilities.


It's really naive of you to say that. Even murder and rape get very different sentencing based on who did it. The most current example is President Trump himself. If you go outside right now and grab an under aged girl by the pussy, you would very likely end up in jail. Another well known example is O.J.Simpson, technically the case is still open even today, after he has written bestseller detailing exactly how he murdered his wife. At some point in the future you will realize that some people who should be in prison, aren't, and some people who shouldn't be in prison, are. Which category are you putting these immigrants accused (innocent until proven guilty) of voting fraud? In the whole spectrum of issues facing America today, this one isn't just insignificant, it also reflects very badly on those who can vote but don't bother. That is what you should be outraged about, not this.
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I'm sorry, good man, but until I can go vote in Mexican elections while on vacation there (or anywhere else in the world for that matter), those who are not US citizens should get 0 say in how things are run in my country. If they're illegally present in the US, they're already a criminal, and their word holds no merit.
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Posted 12/6/16 , edited 12/7/16

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why would they risk getting caught just to vote?

shoulda stayed home


You delude yourselves. They come out to march and protest, demanding amnesty in Downtown Los Angeles. In 2014, they were out every Sunday for a few months.

I'm expecting more of the same, once Trump is sworn in. They aren't scared of nothing. They sign up for welfare benefits for their U.S. born babies. What makes you think their scared to use their fake or stolen ssn to find jobs, or get a cell phone? I see them texting away on their smart phones every freakin' day.

Don't give me that, "they're scared and hiding," crap.


You see them texting on their smart phones every day? How do you know they are illegal? Do you just assume every brown person, or mexican you see is illegal and then get mad they have a smart phone?


Because where I work, they are asked for their ID's. They don't have California driver licenses nor California State I.D.'s. They show their "Mexican Consulate" (not the same thing as a passport) I.D.'s which Los Angeles County has recognized as an acceptable form of ID.... That's how I know.
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Posted 12/7/16 , edited 12/7/16

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I'm sorry, good man, but until I can go vote in Mexican elections while on vacation there (or anywhere else in the world for that matter), those who are not US citizens should get 0 say in how things are run in my country. If they're illegally present in the US, they're already a criminal, and their word holds no merit.


Let me tell you a little story about democracy:

When I was in college I drove around a lot and I listened to the local radio station a lot. One of theses things that the radio talked about everyday and I experienced everyday was a road called the A14, which is a 4 lane motorway into town that turned into a 10 mile long car park during peak hours everyday. Because everybody lived out of town where houses were affordable and drove into town for work, shopping, and socializing. So, in the local elections for city council one of the most important issues was: what are you going to do about the A14? And the idea of a congestion charge has been floated around since the 1970s, but every election and referendum the congestion charge always got voted down, because nobody wants to pay it.

Then, in my second year the city council had a genius idea: they proposed a congestion charge that only applies to cars with registered address outside of the city limits, and they put this proposition forward as a city bylaw so only the people who lived inside the city limits were allowed to vote. Thus they managed to turn the most unpopular proposition in the history of the city into the most popularly supported proposition over night. As you can imagine, the commuters, the students, and of course me were absolutely outraged. What they were doing is entirely legal and logical, because if you don't live inside the city limits then you don't pay council tax to the city so you don't directly contribute to the city. But in so doing, they disenfranchised everyone who rely on this road everyday.
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Posted 12/7/16 , edited 12/8/16
And let me tell you a little story about reality -

People who are illegally present in a country, along with people who are visiting the country on business and vacation, should get no say in what goes on in said country. Illegals and visitors can always leave the country, and that's sort of the point with the illegal population - We don't want you here. Creating laws to ensure an illegal's life is so difficult that their home country is a far better option can only be a good thing. The point is to get you to go back and fix your problems, instead of expecting another country to either fix them for you or harbor you until they do (in other words, permanently).
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Posted 12/8/16 , edited 12/8/16

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And let me tell you a little story about reality -

People who are illegally present in a country, along with people who are visiting the country on business and vacation, should get no say in what goes on in said country. Illegals and visitors can always leave the country, and that's sort of the point with the illegal population - We don't want you here. Creating laws to ensure an illegal's life is so difficult that their home country is a far better option can only be a good thing. The point is to get you to go back and fix your problems, instead of expecting another country to either fix them for you or harbor you until they do (in other words, permanently).


I've known some illegal immigrants, I have worked with some illegal immigrants. They are hardworking people, and they absolutely have a stake in the well being of the country and the society. There is no similarity between an immigrant and a visitor or tourist, making that link shows you have never had any meaningful interactions with immigrants before. Immigrants are vital to our economy. We are going down the wrong road trying to make the distinction between illegal immigrants (basically the poor ones) and legal immigrants (basically the richer ones who can afford to go through the documentation procedures). Want to make America great again? Pathway to citizenship is absolutely the first step.
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Posted 12/11/16 , edited 12/12/16
Proof that LA and NYC need to experience their own self contained variation of the plague. The UK is so smart because they were hit by it.
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Year-end cleanup. Closing threads with no new posts since 12/31/2016.
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